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Post by statechamp1239 on Mar 15, 2023 11:53:54 GMT -6
Robertsdale H.S., AL: " The ǝpısdn uʍop" Featuring Music from: " Separate Ways (World's Apart)" by Journey " In the Air Tonight" by Phil Collins "Time After Time" by Cyndi Lauper " Running Up the Hill" by Kate Bush Riverside, TX: " Aurora" Featuring Music from: " In the Air Tonight" by Phil Collins " The Greatest Showman" Original Music from Luke McMillan
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Post by jmike16 on Mar 16, 2023 22:53:57 GMT -6
McKinney HS (TX): The Seco2D Dimension
Music includes: - String Quartet No. 3 by Philip Glass - Black or White by Michael Jackson - Fearful Symmetries by John Adams - The Lady in Red by Chris de Burgh - Rhapsody in Blue by George Gershwin - Blue Shades by Frank Ticheli - Green by Michael Torke
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Post by statechamp1239 on Mar 17, 2023 10:16:38 GMT -6
West Milford H.S., NJ: "The Hive"
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Post by statechamp1239 on Mar 17, 2023 16:49:24 GMT -6
Ardrey Kell H.S., NC: " What Happens at Midnight"
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Post by ilikeguard on Mar 17, 2023 18:21:33 GMT -6
I love that we had confusion over repeated shows when it happens ALL the time over here in nonaffluent small band land. I’ve seen the same show many many times in my few years of band, not to mention uniforms and props getting passed around here like the common cold! It’s also a pretty frequent thing in the Wes band world. And speaking of which…if the leaks some of us have seen are real, there’s a big Wes band this year doing a VERY similar show to one that another big Wes band did recently. Though I’m not ruling it out being an “Age of Discovery 3” moment yet… 🤠
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Post by 70sguardchick on Mar 18, 2023 9:33:18 GMT -6
I love that we had confusion over repeated shows when it happens ALL the time over here in nonaffluent small band land. I’ve seen the same show many many times in my few years of band, not to mention uniforms and props getting passed around here like the common cold! It’s also a pretty frequent thing in the Wes band world. And speaking of which…if the leaks some of us have seen are real, there’s a big Wes band this year doing a VERY similar show to one that another big Wes band did recently. Though I’m not ruling it out being an “Age of Discovery 3” moment yet… 🤠 Spill the tea!! Or at least DM me -those of us in Wes world need to know!👂
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Post by hewhowaits on Mar 18, 2023 11:18:18 GMT -6
I love that we had confusion over repeated shows when it happens ALL the time over here in nonaffluent small band land. I’ve seen the same show many many times in my few years of band, not to mention uniforms and props getting passed around here like the common cold! It’s also a pretty frequent thing in the Wes band world. And speaking of which…if the leaks some of us have seen are real, there’s a big Wes band this year doing a VERY similar show to one that another big Wes band did recently. Though I’m not ruling it out being an “Age of Discovery 3” moment yet… 🤠 Spill the tea!! Or at least DM me -those of us in Wes world need to know!👂 Especially those whose band recycled a "covid-ed out" Wes production into a GN finalist show (with the tweaks and prop changes Wes learned from the original version helping greatly)? And we can certainly hope that the show being reimagined is one of the recent un-Wes-like shows with very limited props.
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Post by 70sguardchick on Mar 18, 2023 13:31:50 GMT -6
Spill the tea!! Or at least DM me -those of us in Wes world need to know!👂 Especially those whose band recycled a "covid-ed out" Wes production into a GN finalist show (with the tweaks and prop changes Wes learned from the original version helping greatly)? And we can certainly hope that the show being reimagined is one of the recent un-Wes-like shows with very limited props. All right, I hear you….😏….here’s to getting a ‘first run’ show this year (although the kids did an amazing job with a reimagined show you must admit). I only know a bit about the prop concept so far. Very different but still, um, abundant.
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Post by statechamp1239 on Mar 18, 2023 13:32:59 GMT -6
Daphne H.S., AL: "The Ring of Power"
Featuring Music from: The Lord of the Rings "The Prophecy" by Howard Shore "Minas Morgul" by Howard Shore "A Knife in the Dark" by Howard Shore "Isengard" by Howard Shore "Into the West" by Howard Shore "A Journey in the Dark" by Howard Shore "The Bridge of Khazad Dum" by Howard Shore
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Post by hewhowaits on Mar 18, 2023 16:41:57 GMT -6
Especially those whose band recycled a "covid-ed out" Wes production into a GN finalist show (with the tweaks and prop changes Wes learned from the original version helping greatly)? And we can certainly hope that the show being reimagined is one of the recent un-Wes-like shows with very limited props. All right, I hear you….😏….here’s to getting a ‘first run’ show this year (although the kids did an amazing job with a reimagined show you must admit). I only know a bit about the prop concept so far. Very different but still, um, abundant. I look forward to interacting with the pit crew from your school. They make dealing with all those props worthwhile (well, almost).
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Post by abtwitch on Mar 18, 2023 18:26:27 GMT -6
Daphne H.S., AL: " The Ring of Power" Featuring Music from: The Lord of the Rings" The Prophecy" by Howard Shore " Minas Morgul" by Howard Shore " A Knife in the Dark" by Howard Shore " Isengard" by Howard Shore " Into the West" by Howard Shore " A Journey in the Dark" by Howard Shore " The Bridge of Khazad Dum" by Howard Shore Wait, you can play this stuff, or are they just hoping they don't get caught?
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Post by 70sguardchick on Mar 18, 2023 19:18:47 GMT -6
All right, I hear you….😏….here’s to getting a ‘first run’ show this year (although the kids did an amazing job with a reimagined show you must admit). I only know a bit about the prop concept so far. Very different but still, um, abundant. I look forward to interacting with the pit crew from your school. They make dealing with all those props worthwhile (well, almost). I will tell them you said that….they are a fine bunch (and I don’t say that just because I’m married to the tall one…)
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Post by ilikeguard on Mar 18, 2023 19:30:11 GMT -6
Daphne H.S., AL: " The Ring of Power" Featuring Music from: The Lord of the Rings" The Prophecy" by Howard Shore " Minas Morgul" by Howard Shore " A Knife in the Dark" by Howard Shore " Isengard" by Howard Shore " Into the West" by Howard Shore " A Journey in the Dark" by Howard Shore " The Bridge of Khazad Dum" by Howard Shore Wait, you can play this stuff, or are they just hoping they don't get caught? I don’t even want to think about how much this show costs (whether that’s in licensing or legal fees)
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Post by yayband914 on Mar 19, 2023 9:14:18 GMT -6
Wait, you can play this stuff, or are they just hoping they don't get caught? I don’t even want to think about how much this show costs (whether that’s in licensing or legal fees) Just around $3,200 if going through the proper channels.
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Post by abtwitch on Mar 19, 2023 11:24:48 GMT -6
I don’t even want to think about how much this show costs (whether that’s in licensing or legal fees) Just around $3,200 if going through the proper channels. Now I'm just asking why no one super prevalent has done a LotR show! I assumed Howard Shore was pulling a John Williams and intensely gatekeeping his music.
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Post by cybrunette on Mar 19, 2023 12:41:14 GMT -6
I don’t even want to think about how much this show costs (whether that’s in licensing or legal fees) Just around $3,200 if going through the proper channels. Oh? This is an interesting conversation... My question is what is the financial difference a band has to undertake in gaining the rights, along with musical arrangement, for something more typical as let's say the selection from Cowboy Bepop in The Woodlands 2022 show compared to a monster like this $3K LofR show? Or is there not much of a difference? I can't imagine what Tarpons budget even looks like every year for just music...
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Post by yayband914 on Mar 19, 2023 13:33:26 GMT -6
Just around $3,200 if going through the proper channels. Oh? This is an interesting conversation... My question is what is the financial difference a band has to undertake in gaining the rights, along with musical arrangement, for something more typical as let's say the selection from Cowboy Bepop in The Woodlands 2022 show compared to a monster like this $3K LofR show? Or is there not much of a difference? I can't imagine what Tarpons budget even looks like every year for just music... Great question, and the answer has a wide berth. It really all depends on what music you’re programming, how many pieces you’re performing, and how much your arranger charges for designing. Wind arrangers, specifically, typically charge anywhere between $2,000 and $10,000+, depending on who they are, who they’re arranging for, and various factors encompassing the arrangement itself (duration, difficulty, etc). Pop music usually costs around “only” a couple hundred dollars per song to license. Then you have other popular, frequently-performed classical or concert music from composers like John Mackey and Eric Whitacre, who typically charge several hundred dollars per piece. And then of course, if you use music from the public domain, there is no cost. It really just depends on the amount and the type of music that is being programmed. You can get a lot of mileage out of one single 90-minute symphony or 20-minute symphonic band piece that may only cost a couple hundred dollars, and will sustain an entire 7-11 minute show. Speaking on Tarpon specifically since you mentioned them, they used to have shows comprised of completely original music, which of course eliminates the need for copyright fees. In 2014 (the year they won Grand Nats), I believe that was the first year they used an arrangement (which was Hindemith’s Symphonic Metamorphosis), which cost them an extra few hundred bucks. Their shows nowadays are typically arrangements with several pieces, but even still, the copyright budget likely pales in comparison to the aesthetics budget. Not sure if that answered your question satisfactorily, but just my two cents. I can tell you that the vast majority of bands are not spending $3,000+ on copyright fees.
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Post by cybrunette on Mar 19, 2023 14:12:18 GMT -6
Oh? This is an interesting conversation... My question is what is the financial difference a band has to undertake in gaining the rights, along with musical arrangement, for something more typical as let's say the selection from Cowboy Bepop in The Woodlands 2022 show compared to a monster like this $3K LofR show? Or is there not much of a difference? I can't imagine what Tarpons budget even looks like every year for just music... Great question, and the answer has a wide berth. It really all depends on what music you’re programming, how many pieces you’re performing, and how much your arranger charges for designing. Wind arrangers, specifically, typically charge anywhere between $2,000 and $10,000+, depending on who they are, who they’re arranging for, and various factors encompassing the arrangement itself (duration, difficulty, etc). Pop music usually costs around “only” a couple hundred dollars per song to license. Then you have other popular, frequently-performed classical or concert music from composers like John Mackey and Eric Whitacre, who typically charge several hundred dollars per piece. And then of course, if you use music from the public domain, there is no cost. It really just depends on the amount and the type of music that is being programmed. You can get a lot of mileage out of one single 90-minute symphony or 20-minute symphonic band piece that may only cost a couple hundred dollars, and will sustain an entire 7-11 minute show. Speaking on Tarpon specifically since you mentioned them, they used to have shows comprised of completely original music, which of course eliminates the need for copyright fees. In 2014 (the year they won Grand Nats), I believe that was the first year they used an arrangement (which was Hindemith’s Symphonic Metamorphosis), which cost them an extra few hundred bucks. Their shows nowadays are typically arrangements with several pieces, but even still, the copyright budget likely pales in comparison to the aesthetics budget. Not sure if that answered your question satisfactorily, but just my two cents. I can tell you that the vast majority of bands are not spending $3,000+ on copyright fees. You're answer definitely exceeded anything I was initially expecting as a response! I always knew copyright was a dated law, I just never knew it was so financially accessible for the rights of use itself... I thought it would cost a whole lot more. I'll also throw these questions out there to feed my curiosity... We see increased allotted budgets within the school system happen all the time with athletic departments from schools that bring home championships or are top contenders. IIRC, and I'm not sure if it was from donations or the district themselves, I think it was Carmel (I know they're a wealthy school to begin with) that just built an indoor practice field for marching band specifically. Would you say this helps gives schools more opportunity to dig deeper into a more diverse musical selection? Or are these bills being paid through normal band fees? In my case at least band fees were never broken down that specifically enough where I would see a charge like that and I don't have any kids to even be enrolled in band for me to ask questions like that to a staff member directly. Lastly, abtwitch mentioned gatekeeping. It got me thinking about companies like Nintendo that threatens anyone and everything with lawsuits or strikes for using anything that deals with their brand / property. How hard is it to reach these very restrictive databases of wonderful music? How do you even begin to start a conversation about using music in marching band with a companies management team that probably knows nothing about marching band?
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Post by statechamp1239 on Mar 20, 2023 15:56:01 GMT -6
Frenship H.S., TX: "Keys"
Featuring Music from: Beethoven Chopin Mozart Joplin Strauss Pachelbel
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Post by statechamp1239 on Mar 20, 2023 19:29:16 GMT -6
Waseca Jr./Sr., MN: "Nova"
Musical Selection from: Brian Balmages Coldplay David Gillingham Sarah Cochran Tom Wallace
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Post by hawknate14 on Mar 21, 2023 8:40:25 GMT -6
Gulf Shores HS AL "The Grid" Featuring "The Grid" From Tron Legacy by Daft Punk AHA! by Pentatonix/Imogen Heap Mad World by Gary Jules/Michael Andrews Seperate Ways (Worlds Apart) by Journey
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Post by hawknate14 on Mar 21, 2023 8:48:34 GMT -6
North Bergen H.S. NJ
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Post by dbalash on Mar 21, 2023 18:48:46 GMT -6
Davenport Central, IA: "Lost and Found"
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Post by statechamp1239 on Mar 21, 2023 20:31:40 GMT -6
Mukwonago H.S., WI: " Perpetuum" Featuring Music: Original Music from Jahi Moore
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Post by statechamp1239 on Mar 23, 2023 15:30:42 GMT -6
David W. Bulter H.S., NC: "Behind the Smile"
Musical Selection: - "Smile" by Nat King Cole - "O Fortuna (Carmina Burana)" by Carol Orff - Original Music by Jeff Chambers and Tim Mitchell
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Post by statechamp1239 on Mar 24, 2023 8:54:51 GMT -6
Willard H.S., MO - Twisted TalesExperience the fairy tales you know and love with an unexpected twist. We will explore the stories of Red Riding Hood, Snow White, and Goldilocks while presenting a unique twist on the classic story by incorporating a blend of classical and popular musical styles.
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Post by yayband914 on Mar 24, 2023 9:44:33 GMT -6
McNeil H.S., TX — “Six Degrees”
(it is not related to Kevin Bacon)
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Post by statechamp1239 on Mar 24, 2023 15:41:23 GMT -6
Sullivan H.S., MO: " Axis of Elton" Batavia H.S., IL: " The Crow"
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Post by statechamp1239 on Mar 27, 2023 7:16:50 GMT -6
Skyridge H.S., UT: "Queen"
Featuring the music of: "Rondeau" by Mouret "Magic Flute Overture" by Mozart "Queen of the Night Aria" by Mozart "Air on G" by Bach "Bohemian Rhapsody" by Queen "Another One Bites the Dust" by Queen "Somebody to Love" by Queen "Don't Stop Me Now" by Queen
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Post by vidal28rdg on Mar 27, 2023 7:37:20 GMT -6
Oh? This is an interesting conversation... My question is what is the financial difference a band has to undertake in gaining the rights, along with musical arrangement, for something more typical as let's say the selection from Cowboy Bepop in The Woodlands 2022 show compared to a monster like this $3K LofR show? Or is there not much of a difference? I can't imagine what Tarpons budget even looks like every year for just music... Great question, and the answer has a wide berth. It really all depends on what music you’re programming, how many pieces you’re performing, and how much your arranger charges for designing. Wind arrangers, specifically, typically charge anywhere between $2,000 and $10,000+, depending on who they are, who they’re arranging for, and various factors encompassing the arrangement itself (duration, difficulty, etc). Pop music usually costs around “only” a couple hundred dollars per song to license. Then you have other popular, frequently-performed classical or concert music from composers like John Mackey and Eric Whitacre, who typically charge several hundred dollars per piece. And then of course, if you use music from the public domain, there is no cost. It really just depends on the amount and the type of music that is being programmed. You can get a lot of mileage out of one single 90-minute symphony or 20-minute symphonic band piece that may only cost a couple hundred dollars, and will sustain an entire 7-11 minute show. Speaking on Tarpon specifically since you mentioned them, they used to have shows comprised of completely original music, which of course eliminates the need for copyright fees. In 2014 (the year they won Grand Nats), I believe that was the first year they used an arrangement (which was Hindemith’s Symphonic Metamorphosis), which cost them an extra few hundred bucks. Their shows nowadays are typically arrangements with several pieces, but even still, the copyright budget likely pales in comparison to the aesthetics budget. Not sure if that answered your question satisfactorily, but just my two cents. I can tell you that the vast majority of bands are not spending $3,000+ on copyright fees. This was a question literally on my mind a few days ago ‘cause I rarely hear or see an answer to this question anywhere. I was even told in one of my Ed classes, “Disney’s a non-starter, a no-go” but even then some Disney music has trickled into the activity as of late. I only want to know what are the leaps and hoops someone has to go through to get rights to music from genres and companies notoriously stingy with their Music licensing, Disney, anime music, game music, etc.?? Someone answer me this!!!😂
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