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Post by yayband914 on May 13, 2024 21:48:58 GMT -6
It’s always amusing to me when people speak so confidently about something as if it were fact, only to find they didn’t know much about said subject to begin with.
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Post by cinnamonpromenade on May 14, 2024 2:25:17 GMT -6
Given the high rates of turnover at many of the best Texas programs—many of whom hire those fresh young'ns straight out of college, only for them to burn out in their first five years of teaching—I think BA is smart to hire someone with the rigor required for leading a top-tier culture.
Until you have taught, you have NO idea the energy and grit necessary to keep going. Cutting-edge information can be learned easily. Grit cannot be.
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Post by marimba11 on May 14, 2024 7:25:40 GMT -6
Given the high rates of turnover at many of the best Texas programs—many of whom hire those fresh young'ns straight out of college, only for them to burn out in their first five years of teaching—I think BA is smart to hire someone with the rigor required for leading a top-tier culture. Until you have taught, you have NO idea the energy and grit necessary to keep going. Cutting-edge information can be learned easily. Grit cannot be. It really does seem to be happening frequently down there. I was surprised to see Jarrett Lipman jump back in tbh
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Post by daksonj on May 14, 2024 9:52:10 GMT -6
New to the forums but long time member in the activity. I don't agree with this necessarily "Cutting-edge information can be learned easily. Grit cannot be." Twofold: learning cutting-edge information is fine yes, but last year's champion would likely not even medal at the same competition with the same show as last year. It's about coming up with that cutting-edge information. Someone who hasn't seen the trajectory first hand would likely not be as quick to come up with something new and "cutting-edge". Furthermore, it's been a while since BA did something "cutting-edge". Cartwright shows aren't exactly, in my opinion, pushing the activity forward. Schools like Avon, Tarpon Springs, The Woodlands and CTJ pushed (and are pushing the activity visually), Hebron pushed/is pushing the activity musically. Yes BA is a storied and successful program, but with this turnover AND a design shift, it will be incredibly difficult to maintain their success from the 2000's-2021. Grit can absolutely be learned, but it's not as necessary with the proper support system. Given the turnover, culture between staff and students will have to be rebuilt/reassessed first before any sort of heavy lifting can be done.
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Post by ilikeguard on May 14, 2024 11:50:04 GMT -6
I just fail to see how hiring an alum and a former head director who both have fantastic resumes spells the downfall of the program. Seems like the best possible outcome to me!
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Post by bandgeek88 on May 14, 2024 12:22:28 GMT -6
The Cartwright fallout continues. Has it been CONFIRMED that Mason, BA, and Rosemount are dropping Cartwright? So far, he's still on BA's website (and one would think they'd remove him if they want to distance themselves), and I thought Rosemount was sticking with him? Maybe he's just working with Klesch? Also, while this was originally announced over a year ago, Darrin Davis at BA is now "officially" transitioning to BA's Fine Arts Executive Director. basentinel.com/longtime-broken-arrow-band-director-stepping-down-to-focus-on-fine-arts-programs/Cartwright is still at Mason and Rosemount. Rosemount is Colton Hines and Kevin Ronan doing music (same as last year) and Mason is Klesch.
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Post by crunchycookie3 on May 14, 2024 12:26:44 GMT -6
I just fail to see how hiring an alum and a former head director who both have fantastic resumes spells the downfall of the program. Seems like the best possible outcome to me! I’m certainly not expecting downfall. But I have seen storied programs initially struggle to maintain their similar level of success amid director and design team changes—especially when they have been as integral to that program’s culture as Cartwright is embedded in BA’s history (Mason with director change in 2017, Reagan with director change in 2021, LD Bell with design change in 2022, CTJ with director change in 2023, and Marcus with director change in 2018 particularly come to mind… and that was with Drinkwater still helping out.) More than the director change, I’m most interested to see how BA manages to carve a path to the top when they’re working with a new designer for the first time in well over a decade. I’m wondering if they keep a Cartwright-feeling design or significantly change their design package up. Again, I certainly don’t think these changes are cause for panic or signal downfall. I do think we are looking at the possibility of Broken Arrow being in bottom half of finals for the first time in a long time, especially with groups like Tarpon and Cedar Park going. We’ll have to wait forever until we know, so even speculating about that now is silly! But I do think it may be naive to think that they’ll weather these changes with no bumps: it happens to the best of the best!
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Post by marimba11 on May 14, 2024 12:45:27 GMT -6
I think I agree w Hattie here that this hire certainly does not spell bad things for BA, if anything he has a huge experience and coming out of retirement means he truly wants to teach.
However, I do also think it is possible BA falls down a spot or two from usual, but probably picks right back up the following years. It’s 2024, as much as I like Cartwright, there are other great designers now too.
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Post by ilikeguard on May 14, 2024 15:00:19 GMT -6
I think I agree w Hattie here that this hire certainly does not spell bad things for BA, if anything he has a huge experience and coming out of retirement means he truly wants to teach. However, I do also think it is possible BA falls down a spot or two from usual, but probably picks right back up the following years. It’s 2024, as much as I like Cartwright, there are other great designers now too. You manage to say what I want to say without sounding bitter! How do you do it?? 😩 The intersection of my BA spiritual homerism and my first of what I’m told will be many classroom-induced colds has not been pretty. I apologize for whoever I may have bitten and may bite in the future.
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Post by marimba11 on May 14, 2024 15:41:17 GMT -6
I think I agree w Hattie here that this hire certainly does not spell bad things for BA, if anything he has a huge experience and coming out of retirement means he truly wants to teach. However, I do also think it is possible BA falls down a spot or two from usual, but probably picks right back up the following years. It’s 2024, as much as I like Cartwright, there are other great designers now too. You manage to say what I want to say without sounding bitter! How do you do it?? 😩 The intersection of my BA spiritual homerism and my first of what I’m told will be many classroom-induced colds has not been pretty. I apologize for whoever I may have bitten and may bite in the future. LOL your kind words are appreciated! I have lots of faith in BA and there’s no reason to see them fall out of their usual levels of performance with this hire
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Post by saxyman on May 15, 2024 21:58:22 GMT -6
It’s always amusing to me when people speak so confidently about something as if it were fact, only to find they didn’t know much about said subject to begin with. It's so funny, I was reading on here this dude INSISTED that a certain band was going to Grand Nats with an UNIMPEACHABLE source...and he was wrong
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Post by yayband914 on May 15, 2024 22:01:04 GMT -6
It’s always amusing to me when people speak so confidently about something as if it were fact, only to find they didn’t know much about said subject to begin with. It's so funny, I was reading on here this dude INSISTED that a certain band was going to Grand Nats with an UNIMPEACHABLE source...and he was wrong I never said it was unimpeachable, and I immediately apologized for the confusion and withdrew the claim. I wasn’t presented with any evidence to the contrary for quite a while. Not to mention, the event even appeared on the band’s calendar at one point, further fueling the confusion.
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Post by statechamp1239 on May 15, 2024 23:34:32 GMT -6
Harrison, GA is looking for a new associate director of bands
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Post by hdni on May 16, 2024 14:03:43 GMT -6
I’m seeing a lot of people posting that Bartlett is looking for another/ a new assistant.
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Post by cybrunette on May 16, 2024 16:03:27 GMT -6
Friendswood just announced Baylor Herrera as their new assistant band director
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Post by dbalash on May 17, 2024 22:44:11 GMT -6
Here’s an interesting one, and I have 0 idea what’s going on here, since Tim Gray just got there:
Bourbon County is posted.
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Post by †håñð§ on May 20, 2024 5:12:34 GMT -6
Here’s an interesting one, and I have 0 idea what’s going on here, since Tim Gray just got there: Bourbon County is posted. This is concerning. I was really looking forward to how they'd turn out under Gray throughout the coming years. Wonder what happened.
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Post by hallinoates on May 20, 2024 16:02:26 GMT -6
David Gorham is going back to Owasso as the interim Head Director after Chris Harris retired.
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Post by macwinlin on May 20, 2024 21:37:26 GMT -6
David Gorham is going back to Owasso as the interim Head Director after Chris Harris retired. Cool! He started arranging for them again last year, which was the first time since he retired following their Mario show in 2013. Nice that he’ll get to assist in hiring the new director.
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Post by ilikeguard on May 21, 2024 7:18:54 GMT -6
Branson HS, MO has hired a new associate director, Cassie Smith. She is currently an assistant director at Robert E. Lee HS in Baytown, TX, and previously taught at Freeport Intermediate School in Freeport, TX. She holds Master’s and Bachelor degrees from Missouri State University and is originally from Broken Arrow, OK.
Branson HS is not traditionally active in BOA, but hosts a fairly well-attended invitational and participates in the MSMA State Marching Contest.
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Post by maf03 on May 21, 2024 10:50:08 GMT -6
Job not posted yet. Round Rock will be looking for a new percussion director.
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Post by LeanderMomma on May 22, 2024 6:16:29 GMT -6
From Robert Selaiden… Band people! McKinney H.S. just got approved to add an assistant band director position for their quickly growing program! This is a gold mine of an opportunity to get into a supportive district with a really outstanding up and coming program. Brandon Fisher and his entire team are hard workers that absolutely do everything they can for their students. Apply for this job and spread the word! Jason Robb, Justin Shelton, Tyler Sammons, Tykeem Rainey and myself are all designing for their marching program and we’ve enjoyed every second of working with these fine educators. Nothing but potential at this school!
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Post by lostinthebands on May 22, 2024 11:36:37 GMT -6
The Deer Creek (Oklahoma) Assistant Director, Greg Evraets, is stepping down. Although he will somewhat continue working with the band, he also plans on working with Southmoore and Yukon. Deer Creek will also be hiring *two* new assistant directors.
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Post by dbalash on May 23, 2024 13:02:09 GMT -6
Munster, Indiana is open for the fourth time since 2009. No word on where Ian Marcusiu is going yet.
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Post by dbalash on May 23, 2024 13:42:49 GMT -6
In slightly shocking news, Galesburg, IL is open. No word on where Andy Empey is going yet.
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Post by Samuel Culper on May 23, 2024 20:04:56 GMT -6
Job not posted yet. Round Rock will be looking for a new percussion director. Any idea what's happening with Steven Roeder?
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Post by maf03 on May 23, 2024 20:24:10 GMT -6
Job not posted yet. Round Rock will be looking for a new percussion director. Any idea what's happening with Steven Roeder? After 28 years as a percussion director, 23 of those years at Round Rock, he retired. I'm no longer in the inner loop of what is going on. My daughter is a former band member and now a teacher at Round Rock, I might be able to get some information from her. I assume that he retired as a percussion director and is taking a different direction in his career.
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Post by statechamp1239 on May 23, 2024 21:05:13 GMT -6
Clinton, MS hired William Garner, as the new assistant band director.
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Post by statechamp1239 on May 24, 2024 6:51:48 GMT -6
Harrison, GA is looking for a new associate director of bands He has been hired it's Corey Futrell.
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Post by dbalash on May 24, 2024 8:47:59 GMT -6
Lake Central assistant position is open. Candace Boone has accepted a job as Director of Bands at Lebanon High School in Indiana.
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