Renegade Review (Oct. 14, 2023)

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The 2023 Renegade Review will be held October 14th, 2023, at Union High School in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

This isn't an official affiliate event, but traditionally utilizes BOA sheets and is often included in the HornRank results.

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As of 04/16/2023

Confirmed (4):
Bentonville H.S., AR
Bixby H.S., OK
Choctaw H.S., OK
Owasso H.S., OK

Likely/Rumored:

[Momof20613]

Yukon High School will be attending.

[coleeich]

Wondering if BA might make an appearance here or another Oklahoma competition given they are only attending 1 BOA event this year 

[macwinlin]

Confirmed:
Bentonville H.S., AR
Bixby H.S., OK
Blue Springs South H.S., MO
Choctaw H.S., OK
Collinsville H.S., OK
Moore H.S., OK
Owasso H.S., OK
Stillwater H.S., OK
Yukon H.S., OK

Possible:
Sapulpa H.S., OK
Tahlequah H.S., OK

[ycl2023]

First Prediction for the Renegade Review! lmk your thoughts or objections

(Might be some other schools going but this is of the confirmed schedule so far)

1.Bentonville
2. Bixby
3. Yukon
4. Owasso
5. Blue Springs South
6. Choctaw
7. Westmoore
8. Stillwater
9.Moore
10. Collinsville
11. Tahlequah
12. Buhler

4A:  1st-Bentonville
       2nd-Yukon
       3rd-Owasso

3A:  1st-Bixby
       2nd-BSS
       3rd- Choctaw

[macwinlin]

Schedule as of 10/4

12:30 Collinsville HS, OK
12:45 Westmoore HS, OK
1:00 Moore HS, OK
1:15 Tahlequah HS, OK
1:30 Buhler HS, KS
1:45 St. Charles West HS, MO
--break--
2:15 Stillwater HS, OK
2:30 Yukon HS, OK
2:45 Blue Springs South HS, MO
3:00 Choctaw HS, OK
3:15 Owasso HS, OK
3:30 Bixby HS, OK
3:45 Bentonville HS, AR

4:15 Prelim awards

6:45 Finals begin
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MUSIC
Reid Atkinson (TX)
Wayne Dillon (FL)
Allan Kristensen (CA)
Robert Selaiden (TX)

VISUAL
Matt James (NY)
Tim Pierce (TN)
Brent Rowland (OK)

[yayband914]

Sept 17, 2023 9:32:19 GMT -6 ycl2023 said:

First Prediction for the Renegade Review! lmk your thoughts or objections

(Might be some other schools going but this is of the confirmed schedule so far)

1.Bentonville
2. Bixby
3. Yukon
4. Owasso
5. Blue Springs South
6. Choctaw
7. Westmoore
8. Stillwater
9.Moore
10. Collinsville
11. Tahlequah
12. Buhler

4A:  1st-Bentonville
       2nd-Yukon
       3rd-Owasso

3A:  1st-Bixby
       2nd-BSS
       3rd- Choctaw

Well, something I can tell you right now, is that the likelihood of Buhler being last is pretty slim.  

[realjsnacks]

Not as familiar with a couple of these bands coming here, but I'll give it a shot. I imagine they'll be taking all 13 bands to finals given the attendance this year.

1. Bentonville H.S., AR
2. Bixby H.S., OK
3. Owasso H.S., OK
4. Yukon H.S., OK
5. Blue Springs South H.S., MO
6. Choctaw H.S., OK
7. Westmoore H.S., OK
8. Stillwater H.S., OK
9. Buhler H.S., KS
10. Collinsville H.S., OK
11. Moore H.S., OK
12. Tahlequah H.S., OK
13. St. Charles West H.S., MO

Music- Bentonville
Visual- Bixby
GE- Bentonville

[ycl2023]

Okay first off I made my finals predictions first thinking only 12 would make finals but it is confirmed all 13 will make it, and I wasn't too sure about the bottom 7 order at the time so i'm adjusting it now!


1. Bentonville H.S., AR

2. Bixby H.S., OK

3. Yukon H.S., OK

4. Owasso H.S., OK

5. Choctaw H.S., MO

6. Blue Spring South H.S., OK

7. Westmoore H.S., OK

8. Stillwater H.S., OK

9. Buhler H.S., KS

10. Moore H.S., OK

11. Collinsville H.S., OK

12. Tahlequah H.S., OK

13. St. Charles West H.S., MO

I believe that Bixby is going to have a comeback from the Owasso Contest but still be within a point to Yukon/Owasso, and I believe Yukon and Owasso will be very close by this contest specifically. Excited to see how the top 4 shape up as always.

[BDMello2223]

Predictions for Union:

1) Bentonville HS, AR

2) Bixby HS, OK

3) Yukon HS, OK

4) Owasso HS, OK

5) Blue Springs South HS, MO

6) Choctaw HS, OK

7) Westmoore HS, OK

8) Stillwater HS, OK

9) Buhler HS, KS

10) Collinsville HS, OK

11) Moore HS, OK

12) Tahlequah HS, OK

13) St. Charles West HS, MO


I think that the top four will be extremely close this year, like within two-three points. I think Bentonville is a lock for the win here, but I think Bixby will come pretty close, but won't be there in time to beat out Bentonville. I think Owasso and Yukon could flip flop, but I don't think either will be beat out by BSS. Choctaw is a 6th lock for me, I don't see them getting any lower, if anything, higher. Westmoore and Stillwater could go either way, and past that I'm not super sure other than Collinsville being above Tahlequah and St. Charles West.

[coleeich]

Predictions!

Not nearly as large of a contest as we've seen in the past, but it should be a good show nonetheless! 

1. Bentonville H.S., AR - I agree that Bentonville will very likely win this competition. There is potential for an Owasso/Bixby upset, but I don't think it is too likely at this point. Bentonville is looking and sounding phenomenal as ever this year, and I am excited to get our first competitive look at them for this season! Range: 1-2
2. Owasso H.S., OK - Another band we have yet to see compete. From their exhibition at the Owasso Invitational, they also seem to be doing pretty well this season! It is kind of hard to know where to place them without scores, but don't forget they got 2nd at OBA just 2 seasons ago. I don't think an Owasso victory is out of the question just as I think Owasso in 4th place is also not out of the question! I have a hunch they will place well here, but we will have to wait until Saturday to find out! Range: 1-4
3. Bixby H.S., OK - Bixby surprised many with their placement at Owasso. I expect that lit a fire under them, and Renegade Review may be a different story. They have such a creative and entertaining show this year! I am absolutely not counting them out one bit. Range: 1-4
4. Choctaw H.S., OK - Mainly throwing Choctaw in 4th for the spiciness of it all. *insert devil emoji* I do feel like 4th is a very attainable placement for Choctaw. I kind of think Yukon or BSS may end up knocking them down, but Choctaw is having a very strong season! Looking at the recaps for Owasso, Choctaw actually got 3rd in GE in prelims (which is saying a lot considering who they were against). Not to mention winning visual in finals. With the right run, I think Choctaw could turn some heads at this contest (praying for no electronics issues). Range: 3-6
5. Yukon H.S., OK - I've said it many other places, but Yukon is on fire this year! I really do enjoy their show a lot. It is hard to say where they will land as they haven't been scored yet. My biggest concern at this point is cleanliness, which is why I have Choctaw just barely edging them out. However, I think there is a decent possibility we see Yukon medal here! Truly a wildcard. Range: 3-6
6. Blue Springs South H.S., MO - Blue Springs South is looking pretty sharp this year! Coming off a win at the Bentonville Invitational, they could easily pop up higher here. Putting them in 6th because of their score proximity to Bentonville West (who got 7th at Owasso). I could see them higher, but I don't really see them lower. To me, the 6 bands I have listed as the top 6 here are pretty much locked in as the top 6 here - I don't really see any of the others jumping the gap. Range: 4-6
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7. Westmoore H.S., OK - Beat out Stilly at Mustang last weekend, so putting them in 7th. I do think it will be close between the two. Range: 7-9
8. Stillwater H.S., OK - I love love love their show this year! Excited to see how much they clean this week to see if they can overtake Westmoore. Range: 7-9
9. Buhler H.S., KS - Buhler always impresses me by their size based on their class. I expect this year will be no different! They held their own at the Golden Regiment Invitational earlier this season, so I am excited to see where they land. Range: 8-10
10. Collinsville H.S., OK - I was pretty surprised by Collinsville's placement at Owasso - they were solid to me. I think that we will see some improvement from then. Hoping their placement here helps us predict how St. Louis and OBA will go. Range: 9-12
11. Moore H.S., OK - Again, really enjoy what they are throwing down this year. Range: 10-12
12. Tahlequah H.S., OK - I was pretty bummed they dropped out of the BAI last minute - hoping everything is alright! Range: 11-13
13. St. Charles West H.S., MO - Truly, I haven't seen anything from them. Placing them here because it looks like they placed pretty low at Rock Bridge a few weeks ago. Range: 12-13

[ilikeguard]

I don’t think it’s spicy to think South might be above Yukon or Choctaw (or both). They’ve been on a terrific upswing recently. I don’t think their scoring close with Bentonville West last week is a condemnation – rather that they’re both much better than they’ve gotten credit for in the past.

[coleeich]

Oct 11, 2023 7:53:33 GMT -6 ilikeguard said:

I don’t think it’s spicy to think South might be above Yukon or Choctaw (or both). They’ve been on a terrific upswing recently. I don’t think their scoring close with Bentonville West last week is a condemnation – rather that they’re both much better than they’ve gotten credit for in the past.

For sure! I wouldn't be surprised at all to see them higher, they look great and have definitely been on a path of improvement

[coleeich]

Happy Renegade Review day! I unfortunately won't be able to make it out today, but I am looking forward to hearing how things are going. Should be a great day of band!

[QuadSquad03]

I have watched as many videos as I could of each band attending, and came up with these pre-prelims predictions:


1. Bentonville H.S., AR - This contest looks to be Bentonville's to lose. Their halftime show from last week looked and sounded very clean, and their show design is top-tier, but I think Owasso and Bixby have improved exponentially since their showing at the Owasso Invitational and wouldn't count either band out of contention. Range: 1-3

2. Owasso H.S., OK - Owasso is the biggest threat to upset Bentonville. I wasn't sure about them after their Owasso performance, but it looks like they have really cleaned up. The only video I could find since their exhibition performance had football commentary over it, but I could hear the louder moments and see their visuals from press box height. Visually, this show might just win the caption, and their musical package seems marginally harder than Bentonville's, although I can't speak for the cleanliness because most of the sound was covered up by the halftime commentators. Range: 1-3

3. Bixby H.S., OK - I don't really know what to make of Bixby right now. They didn't look too good in their fourth-place finish at the Owasso Invitational, but their BTOB performance just a week later might have won that contest, or at least scored closer to Jenks and Union. Looking at the recaps, their GEV really brought them down, scoring 1.3 pts below ESF in just that subcaption in finals. Visually and musically, they actually scored pretty close with Union and Jenks, especially in prelims. I haven't seen the last movement of Bixby's show, but I have heard that they are including some new props and putting together a very unique and Bixby-esque last movement that should bring that GEV score up. I don't see Bixby winning this contest, but it wouldn't completely shock me. I think they are more in the 2-4 range, but they are a wildcard and could surprise some people. Range: 1-4

4. Yukon H.S., OK - I was not able to find a video of Yukon since their exhibition a few weeks ago, but they could be the biggest wildcard here. I love their show design, and they execute it so well. I still think it's crazy to see a band like Yukon, who just a few years ago was barely making OBA finals, be in the conversation with bands like Bentonville, Owasso, and Bixby. Range: 3-5

5. Choctaw H.S., OK - Choctaw has a lot going for them. Outstanding guard, clean and interesting visual design, and crazy good soloists make them really stand out. I'm not sold on their ensemble sound at this point in the season, and, assuming Yukon has been cleaning well, I don't think they can overtake Yukon's well-balanced show. Range: 4-6

6. Blue Springs South H.S., MO - Blue Springs South is off to a great start this season, and I expect them to benefit from their momentum going into this contest, but I think Choctaw and Yukon's shows are further developed than BSS's show. I want to put them lower based on their halftime performance last night, but the sound quality of that video was terrible, so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. Range: 5-9

7. Stillwater H.S., OK, - I know Westmoore beat Stillwater by almost a point last week, but I really like this show. There isn't a recent video of Stillwater or Westmoore, so this is more a gut feeling than an informed prediction, but regardless, I am interested to see how this show has improved in just a week. Range: 6-8

8. Westmoore H.S., OK - Again, I can't find a recent video of Westmoore, but they look good this year, and probably won't place lower than this. Range: 6-9

9. Buhler H.S., KS - I was pleasantly surprised by Buhler's halftime performance from last week. Their 4pt deficit behind BSS at GRI is one of the reasons I have BSS so high. This band could be a very pleasant surprise here, and I honestly couldn't confidently place them anywhere. Range: 7-10

10. Collinsville H.S., OK - I share the same opinion as many people on here that Collinsville's placement at Owasso was a little shocking. I couldn't find a recent video of them, but I know they will show out, and hopefully their show appeals to the judges more than it did at Owasso. Range: 9-12

11. Tahlequah H.S., OK - Tahlequah was first out at Owasso, and not really by a close margin. I think that could have lit a fire under them, and I could see them making a jump into the top 10 with a good run. Range: 10-12

12. Moore H.S., OK - Moore has a great show this year, and I have enjoyed watching them improve year-to-year recently. I don't think they are quite to the point of contending for higher placements at this contest though. Range: 10-12

13. St. Charles West H.S., MO - I feel confident with placing them here. They are a decent small band, but the level of competition here is definitely above their level. Range: 13

[QuadSquad03]

I should be there for the last few bands of prelims, and most if not all of finals. I'll keep you guys updated

[QuadSquad03]

Barely missed the cutoff to get in for BSS, but from the entrance they looked and sounded really good!

Choctaw just finished, and I was very impressed, but I think I would put BSS over them right now

[QuadSquad03]

Owasso killed it! They look and sound very mature. Definitely a contender

[QuadSquad03]

LETS GO BIXBY!!! That is one of the coolest endings to a show I’ve ever seen! The right side speakers weren’t working, so a lot of the FE music and sound effects were really quiet, but overall that show was awesome

[QuadSquad03]

Bentonville is CRAZY good!!! They could win by a very large margin here

[QuadSquad03]

Oct 14, 2023 14:59:19 GMT -6 footballer said:

Wasn't able to make it for prelims. There is a part at the end of Bixby's show where the crowd can scream "This. Is. Sparta" did it come through?? If not I hope I does tonight!

It didn’t come through, unfortunately, but the crowd seemed to love it regardless. The most affected parts were the loud bass notes at the beginning, and basically the whole soft section of the ballad with just the front ensemble

[ilikeguard]

Oct 14, 2023 15:00:52 GMT -6 QuadSquad03 said:

Bentonville is CRAZY good!!! They could win by a very large margin here

This is what I’m going to be saying at 10pm on Saturday November 11th

[coleeich]

Oct 14, 2023 15:25:04 GMT -6 ilikeguard said:

Oct 14, 2023 15:00:52 GMT -6 QuadSquad03 said:

Bentonville is CRAZY good!!! They could win by a very large margin here

This is what I’m going to be saying at 10pm on Saturday November 11th

Bentonville for Kevin 2023

[ilikeguard]

Oct 14, 2023 15:28:36 GMT -6 coleeich said:

Oct 14, 2023 15:25:04 GMT -6 ilikeguard said:

This is what I’m going to be saying at 10pm on Saturday November 11th

Bentonville for Kevin 2023

If we jinx it enough I think it will start working in reverse

[regimember]

Bentonville... I could not stop smiling. WOW.

[footballer]

Prelims results?

[euphpapi]

Oct 14, 2023 15:28:36 GMT -6 coleeich said:

Oct 14, 2023 15:25:04 GMT -6 ilikeguard said:

This is what I’m going to be saying at 10pm on Saturday November 11th

Bentonville for Kevin 2023

As a previous member of pride I can say that the steady growth of bentonville the past four years really puts a smile on my face and they have matured very very well.

[macwinlin]

AAAA
1. Bentonville (Music, GE, Visual tie)
2. Owasso (Visual tie)
3. Yukon

AAA
1. Blue Springs South (Visual, GE)
2. Bixby (Music)

AA
1. Choctaw (Visual)
2. Stillwater (Music, GE)
3. Collinsville

A
1. Buhler (all captions)
2 St. Charles West

[QuadSquad03]

Sorry for the delay. I had to leave right after Bentonville.

Prelims results:

AAAA:
1. Bentonville H.S., AR
2. Owasso H.S., OK
3. Yukon H.S., OK
Music: Bentonville H.S., AR
Visual: (Tie) Bentonville H.S., AR, Owasso H.S., OK
GE: Bentonville H.S., AR

AAA:
1. Blue Springs South H.S., MO
2. Bixby H.S., OK
Music: Bixby
Visual: Blue Springs South H.S., MO
GE: Blue Springs South H.S., MO

AA:
1. Choctaw H.S., OK
2. Stillwater H.S., OK
3. Collinsville H.S., OK
Music: Stillwater H.S., OK
Visual: Choctaw H.S., OK
GE: Stillwater H.S., OK

A:
1. Buhler H.S., KS
2. St. Charles West H.S., MO
Music: Buhler H.S., KS
Visual: Buhler H.S., KS
GE: Buhler H.S., KS

Outstanding Guard: Bentonville H.S., AR
Outstanding Percussion: Owasso H.S., OK