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Post by dbalash on Aug 10, 2023 7:05:11 GMT -6
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Post by vidal28rdg on Aug 11, 2023 22:07:10 GMT -6
Darn shame too because they absolutely, MOST CERTAINLY do not need one. The gall of the Colts shamelessly trying to extort Indy by threatening to end their lease early! If they’re terrible a decade from now, they better not pull this transparent stunt out! |
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Post by dbalash on Aug 12, 2023 19:44:26 GMT -6
Darn shame too because they absolutely, MOST CERTAINLY do not need one. The gall of the Colts shamelessly trying to extort Indy by threatening to end their lease early! If they’re terrible a decade from now, they better not pull this transparent stunt out! They have to play in Indy through 2034. If they reach the top 5 in gross revenue (spoiler alert: they won't), they have to stay through 2037. It's more on the cities for putting these riders on stadium leases. That's part of the reason why the Rams bolted for St. Louis. The Rams signed a lease agreement in '96 that the stadium had to be in the "top 25% of all NFL stadiums" in 2015, or they could bolt. Didn't happen. -The Brewers may be looking to relocate out of a 22 year old stadium because the stadium district is broke and they need $250 million in renovations, of course funded by the taxpayers. The taxpayers will likely reject it and you could be saying hello to the Nashville Brewers by 2030ish. -The Diamondbacks (former BOA host stadium) stadium lease ends in 2027, and the stadium has been estimated to need about $500 million in renovations ($150 million more than it cost to build the stadium). They haven't decided if they will renovate or ask for a new stadium. The Coyotes have been rejected 3 times by the voters now for a new arena, and they're now playing in a 5,000 seat college arena. tl;dr Cities shouldn't fund new stadiums; it should be the teams. |
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Post by vidal28rdg on Aug 12, 2023 20:21:41 GMT -6
Darn shame too because they absolutely, MOST CERTAINLY do not need one. The gall of the Colts shamelessly trying to extort Indy by threatening to end their lease early! If they’re terrible a decade from now, they better not pull this transparent stunt out! They have to play in Indy through 2034. If they reach the top 5 in gross revenue (spoiler alert: they won't), they have to stay through 2037. It's more on the cities for putting these riders on stadium leases. That's part of the reason why the Rams bolted for St. Louis. The Rams signed a lease agreement in '96 that the stadium had to be in the "top 25% of all NFL stadiums" in 2015, or they could bolt. Didn't happen. -The Brewers may be looking to relocate out of a 22 year old stadium because the stadium district is broke and they need $250 million in renovations, of course funded by the taxpayers. The taxpayers will likely reject it and you could be saying hello to the Nashville Brewers by 2030ish. -The Diamondbacks (former BOA host stadium) stadium lease ends in 2027, and the stadium has been estimated to need about $500 million in renovations ($150 million more than it cost to build the stadium). They haven't decided if they will renovate or ask for a new stadium. The Coyotes have been rejected 3 times by the voters now for a new arena, and they're now playing in a 5,000 seat college arena. tl;dr Cities shouldn't fund new stadiums; it should be the teams. I saw the lease terms yeah, that’s why I’m saying, if they’re bad at that point in time, they simply won’t even come close to those revenue marks. The St. Louis situation also really stung to that city and that city stung back suing the Rams if I remember correctly. In 2034, Lucas Oil won’t be even near similar to the condition that The Dome was in 2016. The Colts have been mismanaged tremendously on the field, they should not be in positions to make the demands they’re making from the city by threatening to leave when there’s no reason to at all, just imo. And yes I agree that team owners should flip the bill for stadiums and not municipalities, especially football stadiums. |
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Post by paddy on Aug 13, 2023 7:24:42 GMT -6
While I generally agree that professional teams should carry more of the weight of stadium costs, Lucas Oil wouldn’t contain the things that makes it work well for BOA and DCI without the input and influence that public financing injected.
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