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Post by TeamIndiana on Oct 8, 2023 13:20:02 GMT -6
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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on Oct 8, 2023 13:23:33 GMT -6
OK, clearly they made an exception to get Castle an earlier spot. They could not be in that slot under the traditional groupings. It's fine, but we wondered how they'd pull this off.
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Post by paddy on Oct 8, 2023 13:26:08 GMT -6
Insert annual “The geographic draw is crap” post.
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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on Oct 8, 2023 13:30:05 GMT -6
Insert annual “The geographic draw is crap” post. Except this draw could not be geographic. Clearly concessions were made due to the Indy Super. No way Ben Davis goes off in the 16th spot under the traditional draw. Or Castle in the 7 spot. |
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Post by TeamIndiana on Oct 8, 2023 13:32:47 GMT -6
ISSMA made exceptions this year due to BOA Indy Super Regionals. This has been confirmed by several directors including Brownsburg and Castle.
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Post by paddy on Oct 8, 2023 13:34:42 GMT -6
Insert annual “The geographic draw is crap” post. Except this draw could not be geographic. Clearly concessions were made due to the Indy Super. No way Ben Davis goes off in the 16th spot under the traditional draw. Or Castle in the 7 spot. There are other classes in the conversation. And with the new weighted geographic draw it is very possible for BD to go that late. |
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Post by paddy on Oct 8, 2023 13:35:38 GMT -6
ISSMA made exceptions this year due to BOA Indy Super Regionals. This has been confirmed by several directors including Brownsburg and Castle. Good. I’m glad ISSMA actually got something right. The weighted geographic draw is still crap. |
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Post by 70sguardchick on Oct 9, 2023 8:07:45 GMT -6
I suspect ISSMA knows that if they did a traditional draw and they forced some top bands to choose between Semistate and BOA that it wouldn't necessarily go their way......
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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on Oct 9, 2023 8:28:31 GMT -6
I suspect ISSMA knows that if they did a traditional draw and they forced some top bands to choose between Semistate and BOA that it wouldn't necessarily go their way...... There really was no compelling reason why they wouldn't want to accomodate these groups. Normally somone trying to gain a competitive advantage would prefer to go on later in the competition, not early. These groups were actually requesting earlier time slots. I can't imagine there would be pushback on that from other directors. I'm glad ISSMA did the right thing. |
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Post by 70sguardchick on Oct 9, 2023 8:51:11 GMT -6
I suspect ISSMA knows that if they did a traditional draw and they forced some top bands to choose between Semistate and BOA that it wouldn't necessarily go their way...... There really was no compelling reason why they wouldn't want to accomodate these groups. Normally somone trying to gain a competitive advantage would prefer to go on later in the competition, not early. These groups were actually requesting earlier time slots. I can't imagine there would be pushback on that from other directors. I'm glad ISSMA did the right thing. I agree. This is what is best for the kids. |
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Post by baritoner on Oct 9, 2023 23:42:10 GMT -6
Predictions on placements and thoughts on groups?This year is especially interesting as most of these bands have really stepped it up.
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Post by thephenixburn on Oct 10, 2023 5:59:40 GMT -6
Predictions on placements and thoughts on groups?This year is especially interesting as most of these bands have really stepped it up. 1.Carmel(It’s marching a typical marching band show. Not much more than that.) 2.Avon (They are pretty clean so far but I feel like their show doesn’t stand out as much.) 3. Fishers (I think Fishers has a pretty good chance at getting extremely close or even beating Avon this year. Fishers show is easily the most entertaining and if the not already by the end of this season the fan favorite. Also seems like almost their whole show is out. That means five weeks to clean till GN.) 4. Brownsburg (I personally don’t find there show the most entertaining but I think they could end up somewhere this season.) 5. Center Grove( There scores are doing better this year but after watching a video of their show from the weekend I don’t even think they are close to Fishers and Brownsburg. Scores from regionals seemed to vary so much I’m not taking them into much account. Scores from Super and Ben-Davis will be more accurate. I am a fan of Fishers show this year and I think it will be very fitting at the end of this season. Sorry for bias but these are my thoughts. |
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Post by BandHomer on Oct 10, 2023 6:27:58 GMT -6
Predictions on placements and thoughts on groups?This year is especially interesting as most of these bands have really stepped it up. 1.Carmel(It’s marching a typical marching band show. Not much more than that.) 2.Avon (They are pretty clean so far but I feel like their show doesn’t stand out as much.) 3. Fishers (I think Fishers has a pretty good chance at getting extremely close or even beating Avon this year. Fishers show is easily the most entertaining and if the not already by the end of this season the fan favorite. Also seems like almost their whole show is out. That means five weeks to clean till GN.) 4. Brownsburg (I personally don’t find there show the most entertaining but I think they could end up somewhere this season.) 5. Center Grove( There scores are doing better this year but after watching a video of their show from the weekend I don’t even think they are close to Fishers and Brownsburg. Scores from regionals seemed to vary so much I’m not taking them into much account. Scores from Super and Ben-Davis will be more accurate. I am a fan of Fishers show this year and I think it will be very fitting at the end of this season. Sorry for bias but these are my thoughts. Regarding Fishers, I love love love the concept and the daring of doing a holiday show the way they are doing it. Fishers designs really have a distinct and professional look to them and are so cleanly done. Having said that, I feel like this show is built more for Macys than for GN or competition. My bias is tainted by a general dislike for vocals in a marching show - no matter how good the vocalist is (Fishers and CG are so talented). But also Fishers seems a little too Glee and a bit too sparse on actual marching band this year. But that’s the “daring” part that I respect, too. Super entertaining, but I am absolutely certain it won’t approach Carmel or Avon…at least this year. Still…I’ll be bundled up with a hot chocolate and enjoying the show every chance I get. Including Semi State. And to bring it back to that topic, I like your predictions, though I wouldn’t sleep on Castle displacing one of your top 5. 3rd through 8th will be super exciting. |
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Post by antoniopenderas on Oct 16, 2023 9:32:05 GMT -6
Does anyone have any Class B predictions or hot takes? It feels so much more competitive this year
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Post by indyfan921 on Oct 16, 2023 12:52:13 GMT -6
Does anyone have any Class B predictions or hot takes? It feels so much more competitive this year My predictions for advancements and placements 1. Evansville North: super strong this year. Also has a strong draw for the show. 2. Northview: They were able to top greenfield central post regionals and seem to be on a hot streak. 3. Greenwood: Have been regarded as strong since the start of the season. Strong contender for a podium spot. 4. Greenfield Central: Could go as high as 2nd, but being bested by Northview dropped them a bit in my eyes 5. Jasper: Great band. Just not seeing as much talk of them this year. Not excellent placing at regionals. 6. Concord: Could be higher depending on their run. After seeing them live, I think their visual cleanliness will play a big role in how well they place. 7. Munster: Solid placements so far. Placed well this past weekend at the Lincoln Way invite with a crummy draw and not so great weather. 8. Bloomington North: Could go a lot higher. Invitationals and regional placements have varied. Another wild card pick for me. 9. Pendleton Heights: Really neat show concept that is visually stunning. I wish they had gotten better results at this point. 10. FJ Reitz: I think Reitz will sneak their way in, but the 8-14 range is going to be ridiculously tight in my eyes. |
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Post by paddy on Oct 16, 2023 14:03:21 GMT -6
I’ve never understood why anyone wastes time guessing at placements at semi state. They do not matter at all.
Pick your 10 bands and worry about placings once they get to state. “Winning” of a semi state means nothing.
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Post by indyfan921 on Oct 16, 2023 14:08:58 GMT -6
I’ve never understood why anyone wastes time guessing at placements at semi state. They do not matter at all. Pick your 10 bands and worry about placings once they get to state. “Winning” of a semi state means nothing. For fun |
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Post by paddy on Oct 16, 2023 14:54:55 GMT -6
I’ve never understood why anyone wastes time guessing at placements at semi state. They do not matter at all. Pick your 10 bands and worry about placings once they get to state. “Winning” of a semi state means nothing. For fun It is more fun watching people lose their minds after putting too much weight on semi state results heading into state. |
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Post by indyfan921 on Oct 16, 2023 15:06:29 GMT -6
It is more fun watching people lose their minds after putting too much weight on semi state results heading into state. I don’t know why you are making this such a huge deal. No one is losing their minds right now, and people are going to regardless of if people post semi state results or not. Chill out. The forums are for fun, and they are meant to be used. Not everything needs to be regulated. |
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Post by 70sguardchick on Oct 16, 2023 15:10:12 GMT -6
Here's a topic for more discussion fun - let's say Brownsburg, Avon, Fishers, Carmel, and Castle all make finals at Indy Super Regional. Awards for ISSMA Semi State start at 7pm, the same time the first band steps off at Lucas Oil for finals. How empty is the field at Ben Davis?
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Post by paddy on Oct 16, 2023 15:11:03 GMT -6
It is more fun watching people lose their minds after putting too much weight on semi state results heading into state. I don’t know why you are making this such a huge deal. No one is losing their minds right now, and people are going to regardless of if people post semi state results or not. Chill out. The forums are for fun, and they are meant to be used. Not everything needs to be regulated. 👍 |
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Post by paddy on Oct 16, 2023 15:14:09 GMT -6
Here's a topic for more discussion fun - let's say Brownsburg, Avon, Fishers, Carmel, and Castle all make finals at Indy Super Regional. Awards for ISSMA Semi State start at 7pm, the same time the first band steps off at Lucas Oil for finals. How empty is the field at Ben Davis? There may be less people in the stands than on the field. |
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Post by LeanderMomma on Oct 16, 2023 15:29:37 GMT -6
Here's a topic for more discussion fun - let's say Brownsburg, Avon, Fishers, Carmel, and Castle all make finals at Indy Super Regional. Awards for ISSMA Semi State start at 7pm, the same time the first band steps off at Lucas Oil for finals. How empty is the field at Ben Davis? oh wow! I never considered that. |
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Post by bandmom2 on Oct 16, 2023 15:59:50 GMT -6
Here's a topic for more discussion fun - let's say Brownsburg, Avon, Fishers, Carmel, and Castle all make finals at Indy Super Regional. Awards for ISSMA Semi State start at 7pm, the same time the first band steps off at Lucas Oil for finals. How empty is the field at Ben Davis? oh wow! I never considered that. Yeah…kind of weird, but it is what it is. Is there any rule that says a representative of each band has to be present at awards? |
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Post by 70sguardchick on Oct 16, 2023 16:03:06 GMT -6
Here's a topic for more discussion fun - let's say Brownsburg, Avon, Fishers, Carmel, and Castle all make finals at Indy Super Regional. Awards for ISSMA Semi State start at 7pm, the same time the first band steps off at Lucas Oil for finals. How empty is the field at Ben Davis? oh wow! I never considered that. It will be a very busy day!! |
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Post by 70sguardchick on Oct 16, 2023 16:05:32 GMT -6
oh wow! I never considered that. Yeah…kind of weird, but it is what it is. Is there any rule that says a representative of each band has to be present at awards? As far as I know there just needs to be someone there to hand in the registration forms for State Finals.. |
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Post by warehouse314 on Oct 16, 2023 16:11:36 GMT -6
Here's a topic for more discussion fun - let's say Brownsburg, Avon, Fishers, Carmel, and Castle all make finals at Indy Super Regional. Awards for ISSMA Semi State start at 7pm, the same time the first band steps off at Lucas Oil for finals. How empty is the field at Ben Davis? I think it's a pretty safe bet that all 5 Bands will make SR Finals, so the field and stands at Ben Davis are gonna be a little less crowded Saturday night... 😏 |
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Post by bandmom2 on Oct 16, 2023 16:41:44 GMT -6
Here's a topic for more discussion fun - let's say Brownsburg, Avon, Fishers, Carmel, and Castle all make finals at Indy Super Regional. Awards for ISSMA Semi State start at 7pm, the same time the first band steps off at Lucas Oil for finals. How empty is the field at Ben Davis? There will still be 15 bands represented on the field and their fans in the stands. I hope they do a senior retreat again this year - that was a fun experience for the seniors. |
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Post by bandmom2 on Oct 16, 2023 19:23:43 GMT -6
Here's a topic for more discussion fun - let's say Brownsburg, Avon, Fishers, Carmel, and Castle all make finals at Indy Super Regional. Awards for ISSMA Semi State start at 7pm, the same time the first band steps off at Lucas Oil for finals. How empty is the field at Ben Davis? Anyone think Center Grove and Noblesville have a shot at making SR finals? They both have been scoring well this season. I didn’t realize just how many Class A bands were performing in SR prelims: those seven plus Hamilton Southeastern, Westfield, Elkhart, and Ben Davis. |
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Post by 70sguardchick on Oct 16, 2023 19:43:07 GMT -6
Here's a topic for more discussion fun - let's say Brownsburg, Avon, Fishers, Carmel, and Castle all make finals at Indy Super Regional. Awards for ISSMA Semi State start at 7pm, the same time the first band steps off at Lucas Oil for finals. How empty is the field at Ben Davis? Anyone think Center Grove and Noblesville have a shot at making SR finals? They both have been scoring well this season. I didn’t realize just how many Class A bands were performing in SR prelims: those seven plus Hamilton Southeastern, Westfield, Elkhart, and Ben Davis. I think CG has a shot. |
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