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Post by euphpapi on Nov 10, 2023 21:40:27 GMT -6
Hotel for 200 kids and staff and chaperones is a lot more expensive than the bus ride both ways? Especially since they both performed on Thursday. Possible there is capacity issues with the hotels in the area. And they give priority to further bands.
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Post by asdfghjkl on Nov 10, 2023 21:40:53 GMT -6
Lake Hamilton in the top 22?!? Let’s go!!!
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Post by yayband914 on Nov 10, 2023 21:42:30 GMT -6
Lake Hamilton in the top 22?!? Let’s go!!! Not guaranteed. How many times we gotta explain the schedule change? 😂
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Post by yayband914 on Nov 10, 2023 21:43:38 GMT -6
Ah see I had a brain fart and didn’t remember they went on Thursday 🤦🏼♂️ My issue as well. 😂
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Post by lylaaaaa on Nov 10, 2023 21:45:16 GMT -6
Any early predictions before Semis start? Interested to see where everyones at (Maybe we’re in the same page) Ill start (no specific order) Hebron Avon Carmel Brownsburg The Woodlands Fishers Round Rock CTJ William Mason Pearland Keller Dripping Springs In no order: Avon Homestead Fishers Carroll Brownsburg Carmel MPLT Hebron Mason The Woodlands Pearland Dripping Springs Fully agree! I'm surprised Carroll and homestead were in last 8. They're for sure both gonna come back fighting.
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Post by ohbandfan on Nov 10, 2023 21:46:41 GMT -6
Ah see I had a brain fart and didn’t remember they went on Thursday 🤦🏼♂️ My issue as well. 😂 makes more sense now that they mentioned that 😂
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Post by das88 on Nov 10, 2023 21:48:15 GMT -6
No offense to my home state of Texas, but why does Box5 have an advocate for all Texas bands making it to Finals? Not a good look for Box5. Let me emphasize that I love the Texas bands. Truly. Amazing talent and wonderful shows. I just didn’t like the optics of a Box5 commentator advocating for all eight Texas bands making finals. If someone had said that about every Indiana band, I wouldn’t like it either. This is not an anti-Texas band post. Go look at all of my comments about how excited I was to see a Texas band performance. Now I wish I hadn’t said anything based on both sides of the reaction to my comment. Box5 has been a joke in general.
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Post by asdfghjkl on Nov 10, 2023 21:50:04 GMT -6
Lake Hamilton in the top 22?!? Let’s go!!! Not guaranteed. How many times we gotta explain the schedule change? 😂 I’m a tuba player, so I’d say at least 1,000 more times should do it 😁
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Post by ps0010 on Nov 10, 2023 21:56:14 GMT -6
SMH at some of the comments on here.
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Post by yayband914 on Nov 10, 2023 21:57:39 GMT -6
In no order: Avon Homestead Fishers Carroll Brownsburg Carmel MPLT Hebron Mason The Woodlands Pearland Dripping Springs Fully agree! I'm surprised Carroll and homestead were in last 8. They're for sure both gonna come back fighting. They’re likely in the top 22.
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Post by waynew on Nov 10, 2023 21:58:52 GMT -6
Just curious - does anybody have a breakdown of bands that made semis by class?
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Post by bandirectorman on Nov 10, 2023 22:04:14 GMT -6
Let me emphasize that I love the Texas bands. Truly. Amazing talent and wonderful shows. I just didn’t like the optics of a Box5 commentator advocating for all eight Texas bands making finals. If someone had said that about every Indiana band, I wouldn’t like it either. This is not an anti-Texas band post. Go look at all of my comments about how excited I was to see a Texas band performance. Now I wish I hadn’t said anything based on both sides of the reaction to my comment. Box5 has been a joke in general. The talent isn’t that great. I can appreciate the fact that Box5 and BOA are making an effort to produce commentary, as they did in the 80s, but I’m over the three person panel. I would rather hear from the judges directly on what they liked …and what they didn’t. I’d rather hear from Dan Potter at this point.. and it’s way too early to deal with that. Young woman has to go. She’s adding nothing to the mix. Why her? Host man is overdressed and needs to do more prep. Other lady is … …. Not doing it for me.
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Post by bandmom2 on Nov 10, 2023 22:09:39 GMT -6
Poor Carroll and Homestead, their call times have to be like 1am to get down to Indy from Fort Wayne for their early morning performances 😵💫 You don’t think they booked hotels? Nope. Call time 2:30 a.m. And they all went to school and had practice today after the down and back yesterday. Frantically packing food.
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Nov 10, 2023 22:11:09 GMT -6
Just curious - does anybody have a breakdown of bands that made semis by class? You can tell that by looking at the schedule in the pinned post at the start of this thread. The 22 bands in the second and third blocks are those were who top 11 on their respective Prelims panels (that's Claudia Taylor Johnson through Brownsburg, in random order). The first 8 bands are those that got the next 8 highest scores (Marian Catholic through Arlington, again in random order). And if there are any bands after the top 22, those are the ones who were advanced to Semifinals in order to fill out their classes ( at least two per Prelims panel). This year, there are three such bands: Beechwood and Estill Co. in Class A, and Miamisburg in Class AA. That means that two Class A bands (Bourbon Co. and Marian Catholic) and three four Class AA bands (Dartmouth, Kiski Area, and Morton and Lake Hamilton) qualified for Semifinals based on score. Edit: Sorry, I completely misread your post. Three hours' sleep Wednesday night and five hours' sleep Thursday night not helping!
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Post by bigtrombone on Nov 10, 2023 22:12:41 GMT -6
Just curious - does anybody have a breakdown of bands that made semis by class? Ask & you shall recieve: Class A:Bourbon County H.S, KY (Panel 1 Top 11) Marian Catholic H.S., IL (Panel 1/Next 8) Estill County H.S., KY (Panel 2/Class Rep) Beechwood H.S., KY (Panel 2/Class Rep) Class AA:
Morton H.S., IL (Panel 1 Top 11) Kiski Area H.S., PA (Panel 2 Top 11) Dartmouth H.S., MA (Panel 2 Top 11) Lake Hamilton H.S., AR (Panel 2 Top 11) Miamisburg H.S., OH (Panel 1/Class Rep) Class AAA:
Homestead H.S., IN (Panel 2/Next 8) Nation Ford H.S., SC (Panel 2/Next 8) Arlington H.S., TN (Panel 2/Next 8) Blue Springs H.S., MO (Panel 1 Top 11) Walled Lake H.S., MI (Panel 1/Next 8) Class AAAA:Bartlett H.S., TN (Panel 2/Next 8) Carroll H.S., IN (Panel 2/Next 8) Plymouth-Canton E.P., MI (Panel 2/Next 8) Claudia Taylor Johnson H.S., TX (Panel 2 Top 11) James Bowie H.S., TX (Panel 1 Top 11) Dripping Springs H.S., TX (Panel 1 Top 11) Hebron H.S., TX (Panel 2 Top 11) Centerville H.S., OH (Panel 2 Top 11) Lawrence Township, IN (Panel 1 Top 11) Round Rock H.S., TX (Panel 1 Top 11) Fishers H.S., IN (Panel 2 Top 11) Bentonville H.S., AR (Panel 1 Top 11) Carmel H.S., IN (Panel 2 Top 11) Avon H.S., IN (Panel 2 Top 11) The Woodlands H.S., TX (Panel 2 Top 11) Keller H.S., TX (Panel 1 Top 11) William Mason H.S., OH (Panel 1 Top 11) Pearland H.S., TX (Panel 1 Top 11) Brownsburg H.S., IN (Panel 2 Top 11)
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Post by marimba11 on Nov 10, 2023 22:30:55 GMT -6
It’s like BOA forgot why they (1) changed the Top 11 from each to Top 22 overall two decades ago and (2) changed it from days to panels five years ago in the first place. ^ this. Might as be 20, 21, 23… doesn’t matter now
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Post by es203 on Nov 10, 2023 22:32:12 GMT -6
This new format is a little weird, but either way really happy to see some historically great bands like MPLT and PCEP in semis. Also super happy to see Nation Ford back in the mix. Pretty sure the last time they attended was 2018 with Fort Mill, where both bands missed semis. ALSO also, Bourbon County top 11 in their panel is GREAT to see! Love to see strong class A bands making semis on score.
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Post by 4score on Nov 10, 2023 22:36:30 GMT -6
Just curious - does anybody have a breakdown of bands that made semis by class? Ask & you shall recieve: Class A:Bourbon County H.S, KY (Panel 1 Top 11) Marian Catholic H.S., IL (Panel 1/Next 8) Estill County H.S., KY (Panel 2/Class Rep) Beechwood H.S., KY (Panel 2/Class Rep) Class AA:
Morton H.S., IL (Panel 1 Top 11) Kiski Area H.S., PA (Panel 2 Top 11) Dartmouth H.S., MA (Panel 2 Top 11) Lake Hamilton H.S., AR (Panel 2 Top 11) Miamisburg H.S., OH (Panel 1/Class Rep) Class AAA:
Homestead H.S., IN (Panel 2/Next 8) Nation Ford H.S., SC (Panel 2/Next 8) Arlington H.S., TN (Panel 2/Next 8) Blue Springs H.S., MO (Panel 1 Top 11) Class AAAA:Bartlett H.S., TN (Panel 2/Next 8) Carroll H.S., IN (Panel 2/Next 8) Plymouth-Canton E.P., MI (Panel 2/Next 8) Walled Lake H.S., MI (Panel 1/Next 8) Claudia Taylor Johnson H.S., TX (Panel 2 Top 11) James Bowie H.S., TX (Panel 1 Top 11) Dripping Springs H.S., TX (Panel 1 Top 11) Hebron H.S., TX (Panel 2 Top 11) Centerville H.S., OH (Panel 2 Top 11) Lawrence Township, IN (Panel 1 Top 11) Round Rock H.S., TX (Panel 1 Top 11) Fishers H.S., IN (Panel 2 Top 11) Bentonville H.S., AR (Panel 1 Top 11) Carmel H.S., IN (Panel 2 Top 11) Avon H.S., IN (Panel 2 Top 11) The Woodlands H.S., TX (Panel 2 Top 11) Keller H.S., TX (Panel 1 Top 11) William Mason H.S., OH (Panel 1 Top 11) Pearland H.S., TX (Panel 1 Top 11) Brownsburg H.S., IN (Panel 2 Top 11) Amazing. Love the 2A representation!
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Post by marimba11 on Nov 10, 2023 22:37:29 GMT -6
Just curious - does anybody have a breakdown of bands that made semis by class? Ask & you shall recieve: Class A:Bourbon County H.S, KY (Panel 1 Top 11) Marian Catholic H.S., IL (Panel 1/Next 8) Estill County H.S., KY (Panel 2/Class Rep) Beechwood H.S., KY (Panel 2/Class Rep) Class AA:
Morton H.S., IL (Panel 1 Top 11) Kiski Area H.S., PA (Panel 2 Top 11) Dartmouth H.S., MA (Panel 2 Top 11) Lake Hamilton H.S., AR (Panel 2 Top 11) Miamisburg H.S., OH (Panel 1/Class Rep) Class AAA:
Homestead H.S., IN (Panel 2/Next 8) Nation Ford H.S., SC (Panel 2/Next 8) Arlington H.S., TN (Panel 2/Next 8) Blue Springs H.S., MO (Panel 1 Top 11) Class AAAA:Bartlett H.S., TN (Panel 2/Next 8) Carroll H.S., IN (Panel 2/Next 8) Plymouth-Canton E.P., MI (Panel 2/Next 8) Walled Lake H.S., MI (Panel 1/Next 8) Claudia Taylor Johnson H.S., TX (Panel 2 Top 11) James Bowie H.S., TX (Panel 1 Top 11) Dripping Springs H.S., TX (Panel 1 Top 11) Hebron H.S., TX (Panel 2 Top 11) Centerville H.S., OH (Panel 2 Top 11) Lawrence Township, IN (Panel 1 Top 11) Round Rock H.S., TX (Panel 1 Top 11) Fishers H.S., IN (Panel 2 Top 11) Bentonville H.S., AR (Panel 1 Top 11) Carmel H.S., IN (Panel 2 Top 11) Avon H.S., IN (Panel 2 Top 11) The Woodlands H.S., TX (Panel 2 Top 11) Keller H.S., TX (Panel 1 Top 11) William Mason H.S., OH (Panel 1 Top 11) Pearland H.S., TX (Panel 1 Top 11) Brownsburg H.S., IN (Panel 2 Top 11) For AAA, would there not need to be another AAA band from panel 1?
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Post by vidal28rdg on Nov 10, 2023 22:40:06 GMT -6
No offense to my home state of Texas, but why does Box5 have an advocate for all Texas bands making it to Finals? Not a good look for Box5. Let me emphasize that I love the Texas bands. Truly. Amazing talent and wonderful shows. I just didn’t like the optics of a Box5 commentator advocating for all eight Texas bands making finals. If someone had said that about every Indiana band, I wouldn’t like it either. This is not an anti-Texas band post. Go look at all of my comments about how excited I was to see a Texas band performance. Now I wish I hadn’t said anything based on both sides of the reaction to my comment. I would advocate for the same, but I’m also not gonna present it to audiences in the way of “let’s go 8-for-8, rah rah!!” The contest is bigger than all of that, more so putting out the message of “this finals lineup is NOWHERE near decided, many talented bands that could snatch up spots for another performance tomorrow night!” Something more holistic and sportsman like would be much better
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Post by srv1084 on Nov 10, 2023 22:56:19 GMT -6
I’d appreciate any schooling on US Bands crossovers into boa. Short answer: Very minimal crossover. Typically between 5-10 bands each year participating in regionals, on the higher side now since there's a regional back in NJ. Very, very rarely does a band attend BOA GN. Longer answer: There's only one USBands participant at GN this year. Prior to this year, Bassett, VA is the only other USBands participant to have performed at GN in the last five years. Since 2000, only ten unique bands who are regular participants in USBands have performed at BOA Grand Nationals. The highest finishes from regular USBands participants in BOA history are: 15th place - King Philip Regional, MA (2000) - 90.35 (8th overall in prelims) is the highest score achieved by any USBands participant in BOA 18th place - Bridgewater-Raritan, NJ (2012) 21st place - King Philip Regional, MA (2001) 23rd place - Norwalk, CT (2000) 25th place - South Brunswick, NJ (2009) 26th place - Basset, VA (2001) Norwalk only began competing in USBands after they stopped participating in BOA regionals/GNs. Trumbull, CT also joined USBands in the mid-2010s, but hasn't attended BOA GN since 1982 where they didn't advance. They did win a regional in 2016, however. USBands (formerly Cadets Marching Band Cooperative and later rebranded to US Scholastic Band Association prior to what is now USBands) was thriving as a circuit in the late 90s/early 2000s as it began expanding in the Northeast/Mid-Atlantic and attracting bands from other circuits. But even back then there were very few bands that would compete in BOA, and only a small group of those that could find success in BOA, simply because marching band in the Northeast has generally been a step behind the rest of the country (apart from Western PA and NY's premier bands). North Penn (PA), Piscataway (NJ), King Philip (MA), and a few others did well at BOA regionals in the 90s/early 2000s, with North Penn winning a regional and King Philip winning several during that time. The Western PA bands and NY's premier bands were always the biggest holdouts, in part because of distance, and also because they preferred their home circuits and much more frequent BOA participation. Kiski, Norwin, and NY's top bands have a LONG, terrific history with BOA that the other Northeast bands do not have, making them the few from the Northeast that stood out nationally.
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Post by lylaaaaa on Nov 10, 2023 23:05:21 GMT -6
You don’t think they booked hotels? Nope. Call time 2:30 a.m. And they all went to school and had practice today after the down and back yesterday. Frantically packing food. That's homestead... Carroll didn't get to practice for semi finals or for prelims. Their call time is 12:15... So right now. I feel awful for them, none of them got sleep because they had to go to school today
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Post by lylaaaaa on Nov 10, 2023 23:16:14 GMT -6
Yup, a brutal 12:15am call time for Carroll Sorry but this seems totally unnecessary. It's 2 hours from Ft Wayne to Indy. Can't arrive on the lot until 5:45. Leave a little wiggle room for that well-known terrible wee-hours-of-Sat-morning traffic and leaving at 3 is earlier than needed. Call time 30 before that (let's even say a hour if getting dressed at the school after checking in)... The way they do it is they have to change at a store and have a rest stop. They also do a singing thing in their school before every comp which is 15 mins. So, they're schedule is call time 12:15, sing and talk at 12:30, board buses at 12:50 and leave at 1. They get to rest stop for 15 mins and Meijer at 4:15 and eat and change then leave for lucas pil and arrive at 5:45. I'm them and Homestead DMs are already still in Lucas oil, but honestead has a later call time. Poor Carroll I feel awful
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Post by Samuel Culper on Nov 10, 2023 23:22:54 GMT -6
Having 100% of your state’s bands, 8/8 make semis speaks for itself. They don’t need Box 5 to do it for them. 💅 Lol also helps that 100% of those bands come from towns with good socio-economic statuses. No other state with multiple bands can say the same 😊 It is not at all surprising considering how crazy expensive it is to get a band up to GNats from Texas.
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Post by bvillebanddad on Nov 10, 2023 23:22:56 GMT -6
In case you would like to see it this way… Semi-Finalists by Prelims Schedule order
Panel 1 8:45 AM - Batesville H.S., IN 9:00 AM - Fairfield Jr/Sr H.S., IN 9:15 AM - West Carrollton H.S., OH 9:30 AM - Christian County H.S., KY 9:45 AM - Carlisle H.S., OH 10:00 AM - Cabell Midland H.S., WV 10:15 AM - Lebanon H.S., OH 10:30 AM - Finneytown H.S., OH 10:45 AM - Walled Lake H.S., MI Next 8 11:00 AM - Tippecanoe H.S., OH
11:15 AM - EXH. Indianapolis Public School Music Showcase 11:30 AM - Taylor H.S., OH
Panel 2 11:45 AM - Beechwood H.S., KY Class Rep 12:00 PM - Rockford H.S., MI 12:15 PM - Homestead H.S., IN Next 8 12:30 PM - Tri-Valley H.S., IL 12:45 PM - Southwestern H.S., KY 1:00 PM - Chattahoochee H.S., GA 1:15 PM - Estill County H.S., KY Class Rep 1:30 PM - East Clinton H.S., OH 1:45 PM - Archbishop Carroll H.S., OH 2:00 PM - Woodford County H.S., KY 2:15 PM - Centerville H.S., OH Top 11 2:30 PM - Monrovia H.S., IN 2:45 PM - Brownsburg H.S., IN Top 11
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Panel 1 3:15 PM - James Bowie H.S., TX Top 11 3:30 PM - Milford H.S., OH 3:45 PM - Worthington Kilbourne H.S., OH 4:00 PM - Warren Local H.S., OH 4:15 PM - Russell Independent H.S., KY 4:30 PM - Tri County H.S., MI 4:45 PM - Morton H.S., IL Top 11 5:00 PM - Norton H.S., OH 5:15 PM - William Mason H.S., OH Top 11 5:30 PM - John Hardin H.S., KY 5:45 PM - Pearland H.S., TX Top 11 6:00 PM - Greenon Jr/Sr H.S., OH 6:15 PM - Miamisburg H.S., OH Class Rep
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Panel 2 7:00 PM - Kiski Area H.S., PA Top 11 7:15 PM - Nation Ford H.S., SC Next 8 7:30 PM - Columbus H.S., IN 7:45 PM - Center Grove H.S., IN 8:00 PM - Carroll H.S., IN Next 8 8:15 PM - Wilmington H.S., OH 8:30 PM - Fishers H.S., IN Top 11 8:45 PM - Avon H.S., IN Top 11 9:00 PM - Piqua H.S., OH 9:15 PM - Pinecrest Academy of Nevada Cadence, NV 9:30 PM - Carmel H.S., IN Top 11 9:45 PM - Claudia Taylor Johnson H.S., TX Top 11 10:00 PM - Hamilton H.S., OH
FRIDAY
7:00 AM - Ticket Office Opens 7:30 AM - Stadium Gates Open
Panel 1 8:00 AM - Bourbon County H.S., KY Top 11 8:15 AM - Neosho H.S., MO 8:30 AM - TL Hanna H.S., SC 8:45 AM - Green Hope H.S., NC 9:00 AM - Dripping Springs H.S., TX Top 11 9:15 AM - Station Camp H.S., TN 9:30 AM - Keller H.S., TX Top 11 9:45 AM - Blue Springs H.S., MO Top 11 10:00 AM - Mount Pleasant H.S., MI 10:15 AM - Bentonville H.S., AR Top 11
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Panel 2 10:45 AM - Sullivan H.S., MO 11:00 AM - Bishop Fenwick H.S., OH 11:15 AM - Logan Elm H.S., OH 11:30 AM - Bartlett H.S., TN Next 8 11:45 AM - Hebron H.S., TX Top 11 12:00 PM - Dartmouth H.S., MA Top 11 12:15 PM - Arlington H.S., TN Next 8 12:30 PM - Nordonia H.S., OH 12:45 PM - Blue Valley H.S., KS 1:00 PM - Plymouth-Canton E.P., MI Next 8 1:15 PM - The Woodlands H.S., TX Top 11 1:30 PM - Hickory H.S., VA
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Panel 1 2:15 PM - William Howard Taft H.S., IL 2:30 PM - Huron Valley, MI 2:45 PM - Avon H.S., OH 3:00 PM - Marian Catholic H.S., IL Next 8 3:15 PM - Munster H.S., IN 3:30 PM - Shawe Memorial H.S., IN 3:45 PM - Lawrence Township, IN Top 11 4:00 PM - Ohio County H.S., KY
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4:30 PM - Round Rock H.S., TX Top 11
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5:15 PM - Lake Central H.S., IN Panel 2 5:30 PM - Bellbrook H.S., OH 5:45 PM - Clinton-Massie H.S., OH 6:00 PM - Christian Academy of Louisville, KY 6:15 PM - St. Clairsville H.S., OH 6:30 PM - Lake Hamilton H.S., AR Top 11 6:45 PM - Walter E. Stebbins H.S., OH 7:00 PM - Meade County H.S., KY 7:15 PM - Grayson County H.S., KY 7:30 PM - Collinsville H.S., IL 7:45 PM - Archbishop Alter H.S., OH
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Post by lylaaaaa on Nov 10, 2023 23:27:38 GMT -6
Okay here are my predictions: (No specific order for who makes it to finals) Hebron Woodlands Avon Carmel Brownsburg Carroll Centerville Jazz Blue Springs Claudia Taylor Johnson Fishers
Potential 4 To fight for it: Pearland Dartmouth Mason Homestead
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Post by aiden on Nov 10, 2023 23:31:27 GMT -6
I am hoarding pretzels for finals now
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Post by yayband914 on Nov 10, 2023 23:33:23 GMT -6
Okay here are my predictions: (No specific order for who makes it to finals) Hebron Woodlands Avon Carmel Brownsburg Carroll Centerville Jazz Blue Springs Claudia Taylor Johnson Fishers Potential 4 To fight for it: Pearland Dartmouth Mason Homestead 🥴 Pearland and Mason won’t have to fight very hard. 😂 Centerville and Carroll on the other hand…
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Post by nny14 on Nov 11, 2023 0:08:33 GMT -6
Any early predictions before Semis start? Interested to see where everyones at (Maybe we’re in the same page) Ill start (no specific order) Hebron Avon Carmel Brownsburg The Woodlands Fishers Round Rock CTJ William Mason Pearland Keller Dripping Springs In no order: Avon Homestead Fishers Carroll Brownsburg Carmel MPLT Hebron Mason The Woodlands Pearland Dripping Springs Yeah I wouldn't place any money on this prediction. This would be a pretty suprising result.
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Post by altosandclarinets on Nov 11, 2023 0:50:46 GMT -6
Okay here are my predictions: (No specific order for who makes it to finals) Hebron Woodlands Avon Carmel Brownsburg Carroll Centerville Jazz Blue Springs Claudia Taylor Johnson Fishers Potential 4 To fight for it: Pearland Dartmouth Mason Homestead 🥴 Pearland and Mason won’t have to fight very hard. 😂 Centerville and Carroll on the other hand… Don’t mind my early post I don’t sleep. Yeah, I would highly doubt homestead, mason, Dartmouth, and pearland would be out and for Carroll to be in pretty much alone in such a stacked competition. Don’t get get wrong they certainly are good I just don’t see Carroll topping mason, Dartmouth, pearland, and homestead lol.don’t blame them for the prediction though, I think someone might be from Carroll 😉
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