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Post by aiden on Feb 4, 2024 23:26:04 GMT -6
Couldn't fit the full subject title bc of character limit But anyways post your opinions below in replies
Here's a few of the bands that I think could be a powerhouse in a few years time
Bridgeland HS LD Bell HS (they're back!!!) Forney HS Kettering Fairmont (not impossible but the chance is very slim) Buchanan HS (MO)
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Post by gavintheeuph on Feb 5, 2024 10:33:13 GMT -6
Here are a few bands I think could be powerhouses in a few years (Don't come at me for my opinion)
Bartlett HS, TN Keller Central HS, TX Lake Hamilton HS, AR Gahr HS, CA McNeil HS, TX Catawba Ridge HS, SC Nation Ford HS, SC
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Post by marimba11 on Feb 5, 2024 10:41:42 GMT -6
Independence, VA Lake Travis, TX Green Canyon, UT Bartlett, TN Catawba Ridge, SC Bridgeland, TX Lakota West, OH Downingtown West, PA (long shot yes) Farmington, UT Mauldin, SC
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Post by aiden on Feb 5, 2024 13:53:28 GMT -6
I kinda forgot to add Forest Hills (OH) to my list
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Post by philodemus on Feb 5, 2024 17:18:57 GMT -6
Terms are tricky, of course... but I see quite a few names on this thread I might argue already are 'powerhouse' programs.
Like, isn't Grant's Pass already the 800 pound gorilla of the Northwest, mercilessly smashing tiny marmosets who have no hope of containing it?
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Post by boahistorybuff on Feb 5, 2024 17:22:38 GMT -6
This always seems to crop up each year. There are so many bands and competitions now it is hard for me to keep track, not like the old days.
Some bands that I have seen that has sparked my interest are:
Carroll IN, Barlett TN, Lakota West OH, Lakota East OH, Gahr CA, Independence VA, Mustang OK, Westlake UT, Cy-Fair TX, Bridgeland, TX and Walled Lake MI
As for the next first time Grand National Champion; I have my eye on Blue Springs MO
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Post by ccbop on Feb 5, 2024 17:50:12 GMT -6
I understand overall rankings limit smaller bands but I feel KY is getting overlooked with its potential in GN semifinals There is Beechwood, Murray, Madison Central (if they ever go), Bourbon and Campbell Co just to name a few.
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Post by statechamp1239 on Feb 5, 2024 18:25:57 GMT -6
I understand overall rankings limit smaller bands but I feel KY is getting overlooked with its potential in GN semifinals There is Beechwood, Murray, Madison Central (if they ever go), Bourbon and Campbell Co just to name a few. I think we all can agreed that they are all seen as powerhouses. Campbell County as well Murray is relatively new to powerhouse scene so I can understand why we could see them here on this list, and could see CC in the near future producing a Lafayette show.
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Post by statechamp1239 on Feb 5, 2024 18:48:27 GMT -6
Terms are tricky, of course... but I see quite a few names on this thread I might argue already are 'powerhouse' programs. Like, isn't Grant's Pass already the 800 pound gorilla of the Northwest, mercilessly smashing tiny marmosets who have no hope of containing it? I'm sorry I just forgot to take some bands off from my preliminary list. I wasn't sure to focus on state, regional, or national powerhouse status. So I initially had them because I saw them as regional powerhouse and not a national powerhouse, same as Ayala, and Foothill now both who haven't been producing shows nor score precovid so my interpretation is that I don't see them as national status powerful bands, and I know some people see the opposite. or Unionville, PA or West Orange, NJ I see them as growing state powerful bands, and could ultimately see them getting to point of top tier regional power.
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Post by srv1084 on Feb 5, 2024 20:47:56 GMT -6
Terms are tricky, of course... but I see quite a few names on this thread I might argue already are 'powerhouse' programs. Like, isn't Grant's Pass already the 800 pound gorilla of the Northwest, mercilessly smashing tiny marmosets who have no hope of containing it? I'm sorry I just forgot to take some bands off from my preliminary list. I wasn't sure to focus on state, regional, or national powerhouse status. So I initially had them because I saw them as regional powerhouse and not a national powerhouse, same as Ayala, and Foothill now both who haven't been producing shows nor score precovid so my interpretation is that I don't see them as national status powerful bands, and I know some people see the opposite. or Unionville, PA or West Orange, NJ I see them as growing state powerful bands, and could ultimately see them getting to point of top tier regional power. Absolutely on Unionville. From what I remember, they only recently started competing outside of Cavalcade of Bands for the first time (like in the last ~5 years or so), and they have pretty quickly made an impact in the Northeast under their new director. I think Downingtown West definitely belongs there as well, as they have been around for a long time but only very recently started making a little bit of a splash. 2022 in particular showed us what they're capable of. Plus I like the idea of a friendly Otto rivalry pushing the two of them.
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Post by jakeymam12 on Feb 5, 2024 21:25:00 GMT -6
West: Arbor View, NV Ayala, CA Cedar Valley, UT Centaurus, CO Davis, UT Kelly Walsh, WY Gahr, CA Green Canyon, UT Green Valley, NV Farmington, UT Foothill, NV Skyridge, UT Westlake, UT I think there's a ton more potential powerhouses in cali that are being left out, especially compared to say Kelly Walsh.
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Post by yayband914 on Feb 5, 2024 21:48:14 GMT -6
West: Arbor View, NV Ayala, CA Cedar Valley, UT Centaurus, CO Davis, UT Kelly Walsh, WY Gahr, CA Green Canyon, UT Green Valley, NV Farmington, UT Foothill, NV Skyridge, UT Westlake, UT I think there's a ton more potential powerhouses in cali that are being left out, especially compared to say Kelly Walsh. Elaborate, elucidate.
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Post by yayband914 on Feb 5, 2024 21:49:52 GMT -6
Terms are tricky, of course... but I see quite a few names on this thread I might argue already are 'powerhouse' programs. Like, isn't Grant's Pass already the 800 pound gorilla of the Northwest, mercilessly smashing tiny marmosets who have no hope of containing it? It’s all relative. You’re right, it is tricky! Powerhouses in the PNW would not be considered as such in other areas of the country, and so on.
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Post by yayband914 on Feb 5, 2024 21:50:19 GMT -6
Which brings up another question…
Who is THE powerhouse of all “powerhouses?”
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Post by redteam1114 on Feb 5, 2024 22:09:05 GMT -6
statechamp1239Midwest Blue Spring South, MO Beavercreek, OH Brandon Valley, SD Carroll, IN Center Grove, IN Decatur Central, IN Dublin Coffman, OH Evansville North, IN Franklin Central, IN Grain Valley, MO Prospect, IL Kickapoo, MO Lawrence Township, IN Lindbergh, MO Lockport Township, IL Millard West, NE Noblesville, IN Nixa, MO Papillion La Vista South, NE Pella, IA Hamilton Southeastern, IN Walled Lake Schools, MI Washington, MO Westfield, IN Worthington Kilbourne, OH Camdenton, MO Concord, IN Focusing on Brandon Valley specifically, I'm really excited to see how their next foray into BOA goes! They did attend the Indianapolis Super Regional in 2018, but it was clear that at least at that time, they weren't ready to make noise for finals (ended up in 45th and finished behind all other local groups from their regional pod (Rosemount, Lincoln, Roosevelt, and Marshall)). Now, they're more than ready. No matter who else is going, I can see them medaling in 2A, and depending who all else is there, may be in the conversation to win it. I personally feel that their potential sustained success at least in BOA will hinge on two things. One is a more gradual fix, but kind of learning the "game" for lack of a better word. It took Lincoln a couple years to find that formula, but once they did...the results have spoken for themselves the past 3 years! Two, and this is just from what I've observed from both video and score sheets, if their guard can take the next step in performance to meet where the winds and percussion have gotten to, look out. Really excited to see how they do! I know they aren't going to be placing in the bottom half of the field though like in 2018. That, I can guarantee
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Post by aiden on Feb 5, 2024 22:10:49 GMT -6
Northeast: 1. Baldwinsville, NY 2. Downingtown H.S. West, PA 3. Unionville, PA 4. Roxbury, NJ 5. West Orange, NJ 6. Southington, CT 7. King Philip Regional, MA 8. Mineola, NY 9. Bridgewater-Raritan, NJ Texas: Pieper Braswell Bridgeland Forney Lake Travis Leander Cy-Fair Moe & Gene Johnson Keller Central Permian Friendswood Cypress Woods Rock Hill Sachse Seven Lakes Wylie Southwest: Basha, AZ Bixby, OK Choctaw, OK Deer Creek, OK Edmond Memorial, OK Highland, AZ Mountain Ridge, AZ Volcano Vista, NM V. Sue Cleveland, NM Yukon, OK Southeast: Arlington, TN Bentonville West, AR Boiling Springs, SC Bryant, AR Cabot, AR Campbell County, KY Cass, GA Catawba Ridge, SC Central Lafourche, LA Clover, SC Collierville, TN Dutchtown, LA Fayetteville, AR Gauthier, MS Green Level, NC Pace, FL Pearl, MS Sparkman, AL Springdale Har-Bar, AR South Jones, MS Stratford, SC Thompson, AL Lake Hamilton, AR T.L. Hanna, SC Independence, VA Van Buren, AR West: Arbor View, NV Ayala, CA Cedar Valley, UT Centaurus, CO Davis, UT Kelly Walsh, WY Gahr, CA Green Canyon, UT Green Valley, NV Farmington, UT Foothill, NV Skyridge, UT Westlake, UT Midwest: Blue Spring South, MO Beavercreek, OH Brandon Valley, SD Carroll, IN Center Grove, IN Decatur Central, IN Dublin Coffman, OH Evansville North, IN Franklin Central, IN Grain Valley, MO Prospect, IL Kickapoo, MO Lawrence Township, IN Lindbergh, MO Lockport Township, IL Millard West, NE Noblesville, IN Nixa, MO Papillion La Vista South, NE Pella, IA Hamilton Southeastern, IN Walled Lake Schools, MI Washington, MO Westfield, IN Worthington Kilbourne, OH Camdenton, MO Concord, IN How did Beavercreek manage find their way in this, also I'm not surprised at all that Lake Travis and Carroll (IN) are in this
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Post by aiden on Feb 5, 2024 22:22:27 GMT -6
This always seems to crop up each year. There are so many bands and competitions now it is hard for me to keep track, not like the old days. Some bands that I have seen that has sparked my interest are: Carroll IN, Barlett TN, Lakota West OH, Lakota East OH, Gahr CA, Independence VA, Mustang OK, Westlake UT, Cy-Fair TX, Bridgeland, TX and Walled Lake MI As for the next first time Grand National Champion; I have my eye on Blue Springs MO don't forget that Dobyns-Bennett is pretty much overdue for their first GN champion title as well
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Post by trumpet300 on Feb 5, 2024 23:38:20 GMT -6
Just a few I think have a chance at making a name for themselves.
Carmel Avon Hebron Vandegrift Ronald Reagan Flower Mound Marcus Broken Arrow Tarpon Springs Blue Springs William Mason
This is just a couple I thought of that I've seen and thought were pretty good overall. This is just my opinion so feel free to disagree but in a few years, I think we will be hearing from these bands.
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Post by jmike16 on Feb 6, 2024 0:37:49 GMT -6
Just a few I think have a chance at making a name for themselves. Carmel Avon Hebron Vandegrift Ronald Reagan Flower Mound Marcus Broken Arrow Tarpon Springs Blue Springs William Mason This is just a couple I thought of that I've seen and thought were pretty good overall. This is just my opinion so feel free to disagree but in a few years, I think we will be hearing from these bands. These bands are already powerhouses in my opinion.
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Post by yayband914 on Feb 6, 2024 2:00:41 GMT -6
Just a few I think have a chance at making a name for themselves. Carmel Avon Hebron Vandegrift Ronald Reagan Flower Mound Marcus Broken Arrow Tarpon Springs Blue Springs William Mason This is just a couple I thought of that I've seen and thought were pretty good overall. This is just my opinion so feel free to disagree but in a few years, I think we will be hearing from these bands. These bands are already powerhouses in my opinion. That was the joke.
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Post by hewhowaits on Feb 6, 2024 7:00:12 GMT -6
As for the next first time Grand National Champion; I have my eye on Blue Springs MO It's a race between them and Mason, unless a first-timer from Texas crops up and we never know who that will be.
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Post by trumpet300 on Feb 6, 2024 7:14:53 GMT -6
These bands are already powerhouses in my opinion. That was the joke. Idk what joke you mean.....
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Post by boahistorybuff on Feb 6, 2024 10:48:27 GMT -6
As for the next first time Grand National Champion; I have my eye on Blue Springs MO It's a race between them and Mason, unless a first-timer from Texas crops up and we never know who that will be. I knew someone from the Ohio contingent would chime in with Mason. Yes, I know they are certainly on the list for potential first timers.
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Post by aiden on Feb 6, 2024 12:37:03 GMT -6
As for the next first time Grand National Champion; I have my eye on Blue Springs MO It's a race between them and Mason, unless a first-timer from Texas crops up and we never know who that will be. I honestly wonder which Texas bands could do that tbh
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Post by supersound on Feb 6, 2024 14:47:42 GMT -6
I think Cedar Park takes a national title in the next twenty years. Don't ask me why I think that.
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Post by oldbandguy on Feb 6, 2024 14:54:24 GMT -6
Gotta be a lock for hitting that next level:
Catawba Ridge, SC Moe & Gene, TX Stoneman Douglas, FL Bartlett, TN Timber Creek, FL Kiski Area, PA
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Post by boahistorybuff on Feb 6, 2024 20:33:26 GMT -6
Gotta be a lock for hitting that next level: Catawba Ridge, SC Moe & Gene, TX Stoneman Douglas, FL Bartlett, TN Timber Creek, FL Kiski Area, PA For Kiski I guess that would be a return to the next level that you are talking about. Kiski was a major powerhouse from the late 1980s through the early 2000s. They came extremely close to the GN Title in 1994. Had they attended all of the GN Championships in the 1990s, they would have many more Finals appearances under their belt and who knows, may have picked up a GN Title.
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Post by aiden on Feb 6, 2024 20:51:59 GMT -6
still wondering how Beavercreek managed to find themselves in this lol Also this is my first time removing basically all the text when quoting a post so any editing errors should be fixed once I see them
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Post by jakeymam12 on Feb 6, 2024 21:15:23 GMT -6
I think there's a ton more potential powerhouses in cali that are being left out, especially compared to say Kelly Walsh. Elaborate, elucidate. I feel like the CA bands mentioned in this list are already considered “powerhouses”. As in now, not the future. For the future, what instantly comes to mind are bands like San Marcos, Frontier, Clovis East, Homestead, and especially Buchanan high school, as they placed 6th at the Utah regional 2023, which is a big step up from 10th a year before. I know there’s a lot more California bands that are doing great and are on the rise as well. Also, I guess that Kelly Walsh already is a powerhouse for the state of Wyoming, but beyond their state border they’ve got quite a bit to go. (Unless we’re doing potential powerhouses by state? Even so, my statement still stands about Buchanan and the rest)
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Post by oldbandguy on Feb 6, 2024 21:41:13 GMT -6
Gotta be a lock for hitting that next level: Catawba Ridge, SC Moe & Gene, TX Stoneman Douglas, FL Bartlett, TN Timber Creek, FL Kiski Area, PA For Kiski I guess that would be a return to the next level that you are talking about. Kiski was a major powerhouse from the late 1980s through the early 2000s. They came extremely close to the GN Title in 1994. Had they attended all of the GN Championships in the 1990s, they would have many more Finals appearances under their belt and who knows, may have picked up a GN Title. True enough. Feels like it’s been a while. Also, a powerhouse in today’s environment is such a different beast now.
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