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Post by Marimbology on Jul 16, 2020 13:07:18 GMT -6
From said Champion’s band office to their students. Also leaking the news from their home circuit that isn’t supposed to be official until tomorrow. And it’s not Vandegrift. F
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Post by TeamIndiana on Jul 16, 2020 13:27:57 GMT -6
Well..... the Indiana bands will soon experience how it feels to take a trip to Grand Nats every other year.
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Post by hewhowaits on Jul 16, 2020 13:32:12 GMT -6
From said Champion’s band office to their students. Also leaking the news from their home circuit that isn’t supposed to be official until tomorrow. And it’s not Vandegrift. Based on our source being principalagent and information that it is not Vandegrift, I would not look to north of Indianapolis as the perpetrator. Recent doesn't have to mean the last 4 years. However, I could be wrong.
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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on Jul 16, 2020 13:37:18 GMT -6
Based on our source being principalagent and information that it is not Vandegrift, I would not look to north of Indianapolis as the perpetrator. Recent doesn't have to mean the last 4 years. However, I could be wrong. So you're suggesting...
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Post by hewhowaits on Jul 16, 2020 13:42:30 GMT -6
Not suggesting anything.
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Post by 70sguardchick on Jul 16, 2020 13:49:56 GMT -6
Very strong indicators that Macy's is a no-go for 2020, sadly for Centerville, Lincoln-Way, Brownsburg and Union.
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Post by Allohak on Jul 16, 2020 14:10:49 GMT -6
Well. At least we don't have to wonder and worry anymore?
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Post by hewhowaits on Jul 16, 2020 14:22:07 GMT -6
There is no way that the coronavirus will be obliterated by the fall, so in my opinion Bands of America can save everyone time, money, and planning by closely monitoring this situation and coming to a decision on their fall season soon. While it may seem to be too far ahead and reactionary for some, we all know that BOA will ultimately cave and cancel events should this virus continue to permeate the planet. It will for some time. The world will survive without a BOA Grand Nationals for one year. Who may NOT survive, however, is more important than anything to do with marching band on any level - ever. Well, dallasman may not have gone about some of his responses in this and other threads the right way, but...
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Post by Samuel Culper on Jul 16, 2020 14:25:48 GMT -6
There is no way that the coronavirus will be obliterated by the fall, so in my opinion Bands of America can save everyone time, money, and planning by closely monitoring this situation and coming to a decision on their fall season soon. While it may seem to be too far ahead and reactionary for some, we all know that BOA will ultimately cave and cancel events should this virus continue to permeate the planet. It will for some time. The world will survive without a BOA Grand Nationals for one year. Who may NOT survive, however, is more important than anything to do with marching band on any level - ever. Well, dallasman may not have gone about some of his responses in this and other threads the right way, but... I don't give any credit. Things could have easily gone the other direction and been much more in control. They didn't, fine, I get that. But there was NO REASON to cancel four months ago. It would have been a stupid move and not one that anybody with a responsible bone in their body would make. Cancelling now is still giving plenty of time to adjust.
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Post by Allohak on Jul 16, 2020 14:31:35 GMT -6
Well, dallasman may not have gone about some of his responses in this and other threads the right way, but... I don't give any credit. Things could have easily gone the other direction and been much more in control. They didn't, fine, I get that. But there was NO REASON to cancel four months ago. It would have been a stupid move and not one that anybody with a responsible bone in their body would make. Cancelling now is still giving plenty of time to adjust. We don't always agree, but we do here. At least by waiting things out, we know the decision was thoroughly considered and is truly the right call for all involved.
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Post by hewhowaits on Jul 16, 2020 14:41:45 GMT -6
Well, dallasman may not have gone about some of his responses in this and other threads the right way, but... I don't give any credit. Things could have easily gone the other direction and been much more in control. They didn't, fine, I get that. But there was NO REASON to cancel four months ago. It would have been a stupid move and not one that anybody with a responsible bone in their body would make. Cancelling now is still giving plenty of time to adjust. I've been one of the strongest proponents of don't do anything too early. Agree with you that NOW was the right time to cancel, not early March. At least we don't have any "I told you so" posts.
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Post by drumcorpsgeek on Jul 16, 2020 15:16:08 GMT -6
I read the first page of this thread earlier, and oh how wrong we were. Not that we were wrong in our thinking at the time, but this has been a LOT worse than we thought it was going to be.
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Post by marimba11 on Jul 16, 2020 15:16:31 GMT -6
Anyone can have an opinion and make predictions, I of course was wrong but these decisions have been largely arbitrary.
The problem now is what is the criteria for allowing things to go back to normal? The politicians don't have a clue (even if they seem like they do ) the medical community is fractured on this too. I don't blame BOA or all of these other circuits for canceling, we can't even be sure what school will like if we even have it. I'm not sure how we got to flattening the curve to we can't return to normal unless we have a vaccine but here we are. None of us have control over this.
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Post by jeremiah on Jul 16, 2020 16:45:49 GMT -6
Anyone can have an opinion and make predictions, I of course was wrong but these decisions have been largely arbitrary. The problem now is what is the criteria for allowing things to go back to normal? The politicians don't have a clue (even if they seem like they do ) the medical community is fractured on this too. I don't blame BOA or all of these other circuits for canceling, we can't even be sure what school will like if we even have it. I'm not sure how we got to flattening the curve to we can't return to normal unless we have a vaccine but here we are. None of us have control over this. one good criteria would be things getting better instead of getting worse
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Post by marimba11 on Jul 16, 2020 16:55:59 GMT -6
Anyone can have an opinion and make predictions, I of course was wrong but these decisions have been largely arbitrary. The problem now is what is the criteria for allowing things to go back to normal? The politicians don't have a clue (even if they seem like they do ) the medical community is fractured on this too. I don't blame BOA or all of these other circuits for canceling, we can't even be sure what school will like if we even have it. I'm not sure how we got to flattening the curve to we can't return to normal unless we have a vaccine but here we are. None of us have control over this. one good criteria would be things getting better instead of getting worse Lol, well you will find people to speak on either side. And the reason for that is because so much is at stake. Skipping out on basically an entire year of the pageantry arts is a pretty big deal if we look at that alone. Momentum is lost, finances, membership ... the end results of this may not be very pretty. But hopefully many bands went in strong enough to weather it. I do fear we will loose many small bands to this.
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Post by paddy on Jul 16, 2020 17:39:32 GMT -6
Marimba, very few people In this forum will worry about losing small bands. For those people the small bands just get in the way of the bands that really matter at Grand Nationals.
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Post by bigtrombone on Jul 16, 2020 18:14:39 GMT -6
Marimba, very few people In this forum will worry about losing small bands. For those people the small bands just get in the way of the bands that really matter at Grand Nationals. I didn't know bands like Bourbon County H.S., KY, Santa Rosa H.S., TX, Norton H.S., OH, Johnson H.S., TX, Independence H.S., IA, South Point H.S., OH, Pinecrest Academy, NV, Krum H.S., TX, The Ann Richards School, TX, Beechwood H.S., KY, Estill County H.S., KY, Pecos H.S., TX, Newberry H.S., FL, Union City H.S., TN, Robinson H.S., TX,Western H.S., IN, Liberty Christian Academy, VA, Signal Mountain H.S., TN, Collinsville H.S., OK, and Cedar Valley H.S., UT, all Class A CHAMPIONS some of whom who earned their place in their respective regional finals on score from this past season, got in the way of bands that really mattered more.
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Post by drumcorpsgeek on Jul 16, 2020 18:42:14 GMT -6
Marimba, very few people In this forum will worry about losing small bands. For those people the small bands just get in the way of the bands that really matter at Grand Nationals. I didn't know bands like Bourbon County H.S., KY, Santa Rosa H.S., TX, Norton H.S., OH, Johnson H.S., TX, Independence H.S., IA, South Point H.S., OH, Pinecrest Academy, NV, Krum H.S., TX, The Ann Richards School, TX, Beechwood H.S., KY, Estill County H.S., KY, Pecos H.S., TX, Newberry H.S., FL, Union City H.S., TN, Robinson H.S., TX,Western H.S., IN, Liberty Christian Academy, VA, Signal Mountain H.S., TN, Collinsville H.S., OK, and Cedar Valley H.S., UT, all Class A CHAMPIONS some of whom who earned their place in their respective regional finals on score from this past season, got in the way of bands that really mattered more. To be fair to Marimba, I'm not sure these are the type of small bands he's talking about. Yes, they're smaller bands/programs than big Broken Arrows and Carmels, but the vast majority of HS bands are small programs that are mildly competitive, if even at all. Those programs are the ones I think we should be worried about districts getting aggressive towards cutting. Even though they arent the main topic of conversation here and it does appear sometimes that some don't appreciate them as much, I think we all realize the important role they play in the marching arts as hometown high school programs.
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Post by paddy on Jul 16, 2020 18:42:39 GMT -6
Marimba, very few people In this forum will worry about losing small bands. For those people the small bands just get in the way of the bands that really matter at Grand Nationals. I didn't know bands like Bourbon County H.S., KY, Santa Rosa H.S., TX, Norton H.S., OH, Johnson H.S., TX, Independence H.S., IA, South Point H.S., OH, Pinecrest Academy, NV, Krum H.S., TX, The Ann Richards School, TX, Beechwood H.S., KY, Estill County H.S., KY, Pecos H.S., TX, Newberry H.S., FL, Union City H.S., TN, Robinson H.S., TX,Western H.S., IN, Liberty Christian Academy, VA, Signal Mountain H.S., TN, Collinsville H.S., OK, and Cedar Valley H.S., UT, all Class A CHAMPIONS some of whom who earned their place in their respective regional finals on score from this past season, got in the way of bands that really mattered more. 1. I don’t believe this. I am a huge A and AA fan. 2. You haven’t been reading this forum very closely. 3. Learn to understand snark and sarcasm.
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Post by marimba11 on Jul 16, 2020 21:14:32 GMT -6
I didn't know bands like Bourbon County H.S., KY, Santa Rosa H.S., TX, Norton H.S., OH, Johnson H.S., TX, Independence H.S., IA, South Point H.S., OH, Pinecrest Academy, NV, Krum H.S., TX, The Ann Richards School, TX, Beechwood H.S., KY, Estill County H.S., KY, Pecos H.S., TX, Newberry H.S., FL, Union City H.S., TN, Robinson H.S., TX,Western H.S., IN, Liberty Christian Academy, VA, Signal Mountain H.S., TN, Collinsville H.S., OK, and Cedar Valley H.S., UT, all Class A CHAMPIONS some of whom who earned their place in their respective regional finals on score from this past season, got in the way of bands that really mattered more. 1. I don’t believe this. I am a huge A and AA fan. 2. You haven’t been reading this forum very closely. 3. Learn to understand snark and sarcasm. To say that most people on this forum don’t care about loosing small bands is quite an exaggeration and perhaps not the thrust of your post so I will not take that comment so literally. However people here love their home team (as do I) but love the activity as one too. We are stronger as one than as divided. Cliche but true. Now looking beyond the virus, we love talking about the big bands and their elaborate productions yes, but it’s the band experience for students that is most important. And many (I’d even say most) of those students belong to small programs throughout the country (some successful some less so). But MANY of those bands could struggle to financially survive thus denying a valuable experience so many students NEED in their high school lives.
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Post by marimba11 on Jul 16, 2020 21:17:16 GMT -6
Marimba, very few people In this forum will worry about losing small bands. For those people the small bands just get in the way of the bands that really matter at Grand Nationals. I didn't know bands like Bourbon County H.S., KY, Santa Rosa H.S., TX, Norton H.S., OH, Johnson H.S., TX, Independence H.S., IA, South Point H.S., OH, Pinecrest Academy, NV, Krum H.S., TX, The Ann Richards School, TX, Beechwood H.S., KY, Estill County H.S., KY, Pecos H.S., TX, Newberry H.S., FL, Union City H.S., TN, Robinson H.S., TX,Western H.S., IN, Liberty Christian Academy, VA, Signal Mountain H.S., TN, Collinsville H.S., OK, and Cedar Valley H.S., UT, all Class A CHAMPIONS some of whom who earned their place in their respective regional finals on score from this past season, got in the way of bands that really mattered more. Farmington, UT is another that really impressed me this season. Good list btw!
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Post by Marimbology on Jul 17, 2020 16:13:06 GMT -6
Message from Vista Ridge...
Band Family:
Please don’t panic. The key word in today’s “LISD Update #7” is “traditional.” This part of the “update” was not wordsmithed by someone with band experience.
We already knew that the season would look different. And it will. But we are still planning to have a marching band show(s) that will be fun, engaging, and interesting for our students as well as entertaining for our audiences.
Please be patient for a more clear explanation next week.
Thanks!
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Post by Marimbology on Jul 19, 2020 14:56:32 GMT -6
On the official HornRank site, under “Competitions” everything BOA has been marked cancelled already....did I miss something?
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Post by Samuel Culper on Jul 19, 2020 16:01:14 GMT -6
On the official HornRank site, under “Competitions” everything BOA has been marked cancelled already....did I miss something? Hornrank is not the official site for BOA. That would be musicforall.org and that site is still listing the competitions at the moment.
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Post by TeamIndiana on Jul 19, 2020 16:56:16 GMT -6
Carmel has officially announced to their students that they will be continuing on this season with a non-competitive show (because there will not be any competitions due to ISSMA & BOA canceling their competitions.... while BOA has not released anything publicly, that information was given directly to the Carmel program and announced to families a few days ago.)
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Post by drumcorpsgeek on Jul 20, 2020 19:58:04 GMT -6
Really not any better thread to put this in, but New Mexico and California have now moved 2020-21 football season to early 2021. Virginia has 3 plans, one of which has no football for this school year, another has spring football, and a third has all fall sports moving to the spring, except for football. I would think the spring football plan will probably happen there. Not saying spring marching band, at least competitively, will happen, but definitely makes it clearer this is a possibility as states begin to switch.
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Post by Marimbology on Jul 20, 2020 20:45:31 GMT -6
GHSA just announced that they are pushing back the Georgia Football Season by two weeks. Like everything else that’s happened this year, I believe it’s will either get cancelled in a few weeks or pushed back again and then cancelled. I mainly believe it will cancel since they are going off on when the Georgia State Of Emergency expires, which is definitely gonna get pushed back again, once it does it’ll probably get moved to Sept/Oct, making it nearly impossible for Georgia to hold a football season for the normal 2020-21 season.
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Post by itsjustband on Jul 20, 2020 20:45:41 GMT -6
Really not any better thread to put this in, but New Mexico and California have now moved 2020-21 football season to early 2021. Virginia has 3 plans, one of which has no football for this school year, another has spring football, and a third has all fall sports moving to the spring, except for football. I would think the spring football plan will probably happen there. Not saying spring marching band, at least competitively, will happen, but definitely makes it clearer this is a possibility as states begin to switch. GHSA (Georgia) made the decision today that football season will start September 4th and will keep the normal 10 regular season and 5 playoff game schedule, but all other fall sports will start on time
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Post by Marimbology on Jul 20, 2020 20:50:18 GMT -6
Really not any better thread to put this in, but New Mexico and California have now moved 2020-21 football season to early 2021. Virginia has 3 plans, one of which has no football for this school year, another has spring football, and a third has all fall sports moving to the spring, except for football. I would think the spring football plan will probably happen there. Not saying spring marching band, at least competitively, will happen, but definitely makes it clearer this is a possibility as states begin to switch. GHSA (Georgia) made the decision today that football season will start September 4th and will keep the normal 10 regular season and 5 playoff game schedule, but all other fall sports will start on time Many bands wanting to give seniors some sort of closure with one last season will most likely take advantage of this.
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Post by Allohak on Jul 21, 2020 6:19:11 GMT -6
Mid-States (MSBA) which covers Ohio, Indiana, Kentucky, and Michigan has canceled all sanctioned events for 2020
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