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Post by oldschooldrummer on Sept 30, 2021 15:25:41 GMT -6
INDIANA (Class A) BANDS (no expert, just what I’ve seen so far and anticipate): 1. Avon 2. Carmel 3. Homestead 4. Castle 5. Fishers 6. Brownsburg 7. Center Grove 8. Carroll 9. Franklin Central 10. Lawrence Township 11. Goshen 12. Penn
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Post by paddy on Sept 30, 2021 16:13:09 GMT -6
INDIANA BANDS (no expert, just what I’ve seen so far and anticipate): 1. Avon 2. Carmel 3. Homestead 4. Castle 5. Fishers 6. Brownsburg 7. Center Grove 8. Carroll 9. Franklin Central 10. Lawrence Township 11. Goshen 12. Penn When a ranking only includes Class A bands in Indiana it is incomplete.
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Post by oldschooldrummer on Sept 30, 2021 16:41:39 GMT -6
INDIANA BANDS (no expert, just what I’ve seen so far and anticipate): 1. Avon 2. Carmel 3. Homestead 4. Castle 5. Fishers 6. Brownsburg 7. Center Grove 8. Carroll 9. Franklin Central 10. Lawrence Township 11. Goshen 12. Penn When a ranking only includes Class A bands in Indiana it is incomplete. My bad! I should’ve said, Indiana Class A rankings. Didn’t mean to offend. Went back and fixed it for ya👍🏻
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Post by Marching Observer on Sept 30, 2021 16:43:52 GMT -6
When a ranking only includes Class A bands in Indiana it is incomplete. My bad! I should’ve said, Indiana Class A rankings. Didn’t mean to offend. I'd say this is a pretty accurate ranking. And honestly, even if you included other classes, you wouldn't have much change imo. Concord up there. Greenwood might but we need to see a full season out of them with the new director to see how they turn out now.
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Post by paddy on Sept 30, 2021 17:55:21 GMT -6
My bad! I should’ve said, Indiana Class A rankings. Didn’t mean to offend. I'd say this is a pretty accurate ranking. And honestly, even if you included other classes, you wouldn't have much change imo. Concord up there. Greenwood might but we need to see a full season out of them with the new director to see how they turn out now. Greenwood, Greenfield, Concord, Northview just to name Class B bands have all beaten bands on that ranking at BOA and ISSMA events. It isn’t as cut and dried as you make it out to be. There are some non-class A bands that are in the 7-15 range.
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Post by Marching Observer on Sept 30, 2021 23:08:26 GMT -6
I'd say this is a pretty accurate ranking. And honestly, even if you included other classes, you wouldn't have much change imo. Concord up there. Greenwood might but we need to see a full season out of them with the new director to see how they turn out now. Greenwood, Greenfield, Concord, Northview just to name Class B bands have all beaten bands on that ranking at BOA and ISSMA events. It isn’t as cut and dried as you make it out to be. There are some non-class A bands that are in the 7-15 range. May I see your rankings please? 🙂
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Post by paddy on Oct 1, 2021 6:26:58 GMT -6
Greenwood, Greenfield, Concord, Northview just to name Class B bands have all beaten bands on that ranking at BOA and ISSMA events. It isn’t as cut and dried as you make it out to be. There are some non-class A bands that are in the 7-15 range. May I see your rankings please? 🙂 Define the parameters. Historical (last 20ish years), Recent (last 5ish years, Predictive (this year's results).
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Post by Marching Observer on Oct 1, 2021 6:33:19 GMT -6
I think in this context we are looking for current-ish rankings. Otherwise GA would have had Lassiter (🪦) on it.
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Post by paddy on Oct 1, 2021 6:47:05 GMT -6
I prefer tiers when I rank, so here goes...
Tier 1 - Avon and Carmel Tier 2 - Castle, Homestead, Fishers and Brownsburg (I think this year Castle and/or Fishers might slip past Homestead) Tier 3 - Carroll and Franklin Central ( though FC needs to maintain as they have shot out quick and tailed off as the year progressed in the past) Tier 4 - Center Grove, LT, Greenwood, Greenfield, Concord Tier 5 - Goshen, Penn, Northview, Jasper, Western, Edgewood, Munster
There is 20. I'm not saying if you threw this group into a BOA regional together the scores would shake out this way, but this is a ranking of how good they are given the resources they have. To ignore the quality that exists at smaller schools because they can't bring the required BOA flash is a disservice to the activity.
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Post by saxinthepast on Oct 1, 2021 15:42:56 GMT -6
After many years of lurking, I’ve decided to cowboy up and get in the game. My rankings are a little different than the other Illinois post. I’m not at all confident after 6 so I’ll stop there.
1. Lincoln-way. I went back to verify this. Another Illinois band hasn’t outperformed Lincoln-way at a competition since 2017, including two wins this year. Only Lockport has scored higher then them in a prelim and that happened once. I can’t see rating them anything other than the best in the state right now, even with the significant COVID setback I heard they experienced this summer. I wonder if Clarksville would have had a different outcome if they had those 50+ hours of camp back (No knock whatsoever on Castle!!) 2. O’Fallon. While I’m disappointed Lincoln-way, Lockport and O’Fallon won’t all compete at the same event this year, I’m excited to see how well O’Fallon does at its late season BOA contests. I think they have the goods to represent the state well
3. Lockport. Their drop in numbers is disheartening (dang virus!), but after seeing a video of a competition performance, the quality is still there.
4. Marian. This being based only on the past. I’ve heard different explanations for why they’ve withdrawn from several competitions, but I know someone who works near the school and they haven’t seen them out practicing even close to how it was pre-pandemic. I hope they’re practicing elsewhere and all is fine with this powerhouse.
5. Prospect. They had a very nice show and did well in 2019. Morton could be knocking on their door.
6. Morton. They’ve had some fun shows over the past few years, as well as decent BOA finishes. They have one win and some buzz about them this year.
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Post by notinband on Oct 1, 2021 21:09:13 GMT -6
After many years of lurking, I’ve decided to cowboy up and get in the game. My rankings are a little different than the other Illinois post. I’m not at all confident after 6 so I’ll stop there. 1. Lincoln-way. I went back to verify this. Another Illinois band hasn’t outperformed Lincoln-way at a competition since 2017, including two wins this year. Only Lockport has scored higher then them in a prelim and that happened once. I can’t see rating them anything other than the best in the state right now, even with the significant COVID setback I heard they experienced this summer. I wonder if Clarksville would have had a different outcome if they had those 50+ hours of camp back (No knock whatsoever on Castle!!) 2. O’Fallon. While I’m disappointed Lincoln-way, Lockport and O’Fallon won’t all compete at the same event this year, I’m excited to see how well O’Fallon does at its late season BOA contests. I think they have the goods to represent the state well 3. Lockport. Their drop in numbers is disheartening (dang virus!), but after seeing a video of a competition performance, the quality is still there. 4. Marian. This being based only on the past. I’ve heard different explanations for why they’ve withdrawn from several competitions, but I know someone who works near the school and they haven’t seen them out practicing even close to how it was pre-pandemic. I hope they’re practicing elsewhere and all is fine with this powerhouse. 5. Prospect. They had a very nice show and did well in 2019. Morton could be knocking on their door. 6. Morton. They’ve had some fun shows over the past few years, as well as decent BOA finishes. They have one win and some buzz about them this year. Lincoln-Way, O’Fallon, Lockport, and Marian Catholic will all be at the Lincoln-Way Invitational in two weeks.
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Post by verysaxy on Oct 4, 2021 16:27:24 GMT -6
Kentucky:
1. Lafayette 2. North Hardin 3. Bourbon County 4. Madison Central 5. South Laurel
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Post by twhsalumniparent on Oct 4, 2021 16:50:26 GMT -6
Kentucky: 1. Lafayette 2. North Hardin 3. Bourbon County 4. Madison Central 5. South Laurel I would put Anderson County ahead of South Laurel and Madison Central. In fact they beat Madison Central by 1.2 points this past weekend. I would even consider them as high as 2nd this year.
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Post by kybandfan on Oct 5, 2021 11:03:12 GMT -6
Kentucky: 1. Lafayette 2. North Hardin 3. Bourbon County 4. Madison Central 5. South Laurel I would put Anderson County ahead of South Laurel and Madison Central. In fact they beat Madison Central by 1.2 points this past weekend. I would even consider them as high as 2nd this year. Anderson County?? Over North Hardin?? And BoCo?? I agree that Anderson should be on the list but maybe not THAT high… yet As for the AC v MC debacle from this past weekend, I’ve sanded it down to a poor performance on Madison Central’s end. They have the design and sound, they just need to clean and I feel as if they’ll overtake Anderson County sooner than later.
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Post by bbrocuber on Oct 7, 2021 10:43:13 GMT -6
Utah:
1. American Fork 2. Davis 3. Farmington 4. Skyridge 5. Green Canyon 6. Westlake 7. Herriman 8. Cedar Valley 9. Lehi 10. Mountain Ridge
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Post by phantomeuph on Oct 7, 2021 21:21:36 GMT -6
Illinois top 10 based purely on top scores (which can obviously be inconsistent, but nonetheless interesting):
1) Lincoln-Way 81.05 (week 3) 2) O'Fallon 80.60 (week 2) 3) Normal. 79.10 (week 4) 4) John Hershey 77.60 (week 2) 5) Galesburg. 77.30 (week 3) 6) Plainfield North 76.40 (week 2) 7) Morton. 75.90 (week 1) 7) Mahomet-Seymour. 75.90 (week 4) 9) Waterloo. 74.50 (week 2) 10) Bloomington. 74.15 (week 2)
Week 1 is 9/11
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Post by srv1084 on Oct 11, 2021 14:13:03 GMT -6
The state of marching band in Massachusetts is pretty grim. The overall quality has really declined over the years, and bands that were once at 100-130 members (very big for this region) have decreased in size tremendously over the years, even pre-pandemic. I believe the biggest high school band in the state is currently 120 members and they only compete in the state festival circuit, MICCA (ratings only). The average I would say is in the 40-50 member range, and many of these programs reach all the way down into 7th grade for membership. The top six are pretty consistent on this list, but the bottom four change a lot year-over-year, including a few appearances of two bands that have roughly 8-10 wind players (Joseph Case and Billerica H.S.). There was at one point a thriving drum corps community in Massachusetts which really drove a lot of focus to the high school level to create a bit of a feeder dynamic, but there are no longer any active drum corps in the state (the Crusaders are technically still a "Boston based" drum corps, but to say they are a Massachusetts drum corps is misleading, in my opinion).
1. Dartmouth H.S. (~95-100 members) 2-4. Blackstone-Millville Regional H.S. (~60-70 members) - Has participated in a BOA regional one time, roughly 400 students in 9-12 and at one point had 140 members 2-4. King Philip Regional H.S. (~60-70 members) - Former multiple BOA regional champion and GN semi-finalist (still argue they should have been in 2000 finals - 8th after prelims, 15th semis) 2-4. Wakefield H.S. (~75 members) - Has participated in a BOA regional one time, narrowly missed finals 5-6. Norwood H.S. (~40-50 members) 5-6. Shepherd Hill H.S. (~40-50 members) 7. Mansfield H.S. (~70-80 members) 8. Oliver Ames H.S. (~40-50 members) 9. Reading H.S. (~40-50 members) 10. Oakmont-Overlook Regional H.S. (~50-60 members)
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Post by hostrauser on Oct 11, 2021 21:15:33 GMT -6
OREGON (as of 10/10) 1. Grants Pass 2. Mountainside 3. Sherwood 4. West Salem 5. Century 6. Roseburg 7. Sunset 8. Sprague 9. Glencoe 10. Westview
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Post by asdfghjkl on Oct 11, 2021 21:47:24 GMT -6
Arkansas Top 5:
1. Bentonville 2. Fayetteville 3. Lake Hamilton 4. Van Buren 5. Paragould (or Bentonville West)
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Post by Marching Observer on Oct 11, 2021 21:48:49 GMT -6
OREGON (as of 10/10) 1. Mountainside 2. Sherwood 3. West Salem 4. Century 5. Roseburg 6. Sunset 7. Sprague 8. Glencoe 9. Westview 10. Southridge Isn't Grants Pass in Oregon or are they Washington? Did they just completely drop off?
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Post by nomorehoney on Oct 12, 2021 8:37:11 GMT -6
Illinois top 10 as of 10/12
1. O'Fallon Township 2. Lincoln-Way (I would say the two are interchangeable due to lack of direct competition) ------------------ 3. Marian Catholic 4. Morton 5. Lockport Township 6. Prospect 7. John Hersey ------------------ 8. Victor J Andrew 9. Plainfield North 10. Edwardsville
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Post by notinband on Oct 12, 2021 8:51:39 GMT -6
Illinois top 10 as of 10/12 1. O'Fallon Township 2. Lincoln-Way (I would say the two are interchangeable due to lack of direct competition) ------------------ 3. Marian Catholic 4. Morton 5. Lockport Township 6. Prospect 7. John Hersey ------------------ 8. Victor J Andrew 9. Plainfield North 10. Edwardsville The Lincoln-Way Invitational this weekend will help sort it out. Six of the ten bands on your list will be attending.
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Post by hostrauser on Oct 12, 2021 9:06:30 GMT -6
OREGON (as of 10/10) 1. Grants Pass 2. Mountainside 3. Sherwood 4. West Salem 5. Century 6. Roseburg 7. Sunset 8. Sprague 9. Glencoe 10. Westview Isn't Grants Pass in Oregon or are they Washington? Did they just completely drop off? You are completely correct. They haven't competed yet this season and I just flat missed them. They are an easy #1 for Oregon. I'll edit the post.
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Post by ilikeguard on Oct 12, 2021 9:30:16 GMT -6
Missouri Rankings as of 10/9
1. Blue Springs 2. Camdenton 3. Grain Valley 4. Blue Springs South 5. Nixa 6. Ft. Zumwalt North 7. Kickapoo 8. Rockwood Summit 9. Ozark 10. Wentzville Holt
A 1. Hollister
AA 1. Camdenton 2. Grain Valley 3. Ft. Zumwalt North 4. Rockwood Summit
AAA 1. Blue Springs South 2. Nixa 3. Kickapoo 4. Ozark
AAAA 1. Blue Springs
St. Louis Finals contenders and bubble bands (the closest thing MO has to state): 1. Blue Springs 2. Camdenton 3. Grain Valley 4. Blue Springs South 5. Nixa
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Post by band05 on Oct 12, 2021 9:52:30 GMT -6
OKLAHOMA (this one's hard because we have groups that have yet to compete)
1. BA 2. Jenks 3. Mustang 4. Owasso 5. Bixby 6. Choctaw 7. Union 8. Edmond Santa Fe 9. Edmond Memorial 10. Coweta
I might have forgotten someone, and scores-wise Jenks should be below Mustang (Jenks' highest is a 78.75 from 9/25, and Mustang's score for that day was an 81.5, with their current highest score being an 86.3), but different contests, different judges.
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Post by Marching Observer on Oct 12, 2021 12:48:16 GMT -6
Illinois top 10 as of 10/12 1. O'Fallon Township 2. Lincoln-Way (I would say the two are interchangeable due to lack of direct competition) ------------------ 3. Marian Catholic 4. Morton 5. Lockport Township 6. Prospect 7. John Hersey ------------------ 8. Victor J Andrew 9. Plainfield North 10. Edwardsville The Lincoln-Way Invitational this weekend will help sort it out. Six of the ten bands on your list will be attending. Big RIP to Lake Park 😓
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Post by nomorehoney on Oct 12, 2021 13:14:34 GMT -6
The Lincoln-Way Invitational this weekend will help sort it out. Six of the ten bands on your list will be attending. Big RIP to Lake Park 😓 Of course my rankings are subjective, I can imagine some people might have Lake Park in their top 10. But yeah, RIP to the Lake Park of the 90's
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Post by dbalash on Oct 12, 2021 13:15:31 GMT -6
The Lincoln-Way Invitational this weekend will help sort it out. Six of the ten bands on your list will be attending. Big RIP to Lake Park 😓 When you have 5 directors in less than 20 years (Snoeck, Chiodo, Pyter, Lehman and the 5th whose name eludes me after resigning shortly after accepting the position), these things happen.
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Post by baskitgiy on Oct 13, 2021 7:21:23 GMT -6
I thought I'd put my mid-season predictions as they have already changed quite a bit so far South Carolina1. Wando 2. James F. Byrnes 3. Summerville (?) 4. Catawba Ridge 5. York 6. Nation Ford 7. Fort Mill 8. Ridge View 9. River Bluff 10. White Knoll ------------------- 11. Easley 12. Clover 13. Boiling Springs 14. Mauldin 15. Lexington Things have been pretty shaky at competitions lately so I don't have that much confidence in the list lol. I put a question mark next to summerville because I haven't found any results on them this year. Let me know if you disagree or agree
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Post by QuadSquad03 on Oct 13, 2021 9:17:50 GMT -6
Oklahoma (as of 10/13
1. BA (Best 6A1) 2. Owasso 3. Jenks 4. Mustang 5. Bixby (Best 6A2) 6. Choctaw 7. Edmond Santa Fe 8. Union 9. Yukon 10. Edmond Memorial ————————— 11. Southmoore 12. Stillwater 13. Deer Creek 14. Coweta 15. Edmond North
Owasso was under a point below Bentonville at Renegade Review and has a far more aggressive rehearsal schedule than Jenks, who isn't competing that much this year, so I have them in second. I still put Jenks in front of Mustang for now though, because from the videos I’ve seen, Mustang is good, but not good enough to medal as of right now. That could change after St. Louis. I can’t decide whether or not Choctaw or Edmond Santa Fe is better right now. ESF stole music from Mustang last week, but Choctaw just looked so good at Renegade Review.
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