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Post by N.E. Brigand on Oct 20, 2022 19:29:49 GMT -6
Bands at the Shawnee show may include Marysville, Newton, Shawnee, and Sycamore. Bands at the Tecumseh show may include Dublin Coffman, Marion Local, Marysville, Tecumseh, Versailles, and Wilmington. The Tri-Valley Classic will host Canal Winchester, Crooksville, Dublin Coffman, Fort Frye, Hilliard Darby, John Glenn, Licking Valley, Maysville, Meadowbrook, Morgan, Philo, Point Pleasant [WV], Tri-Valley, Watkins Memorial, and Zanesville. The order/schedule is unknown to me. There will be 17 groups (including the host) participating in the Tecumseh Showcase of Bands, per the band's Facebook page. The first group performs at 5 p.m. and Tecumseh performs at 10 p.m. I submitted a question via their website asking if the schedule could be posted. We'll see. Like you, I haven't seen a schedule for the Shawnee March-O-Rama (last year I lucked out thanks to their sweatshirt vendor listing all the bands), so I emailed them to ask. We'll see. The schedule for the Tri-Valley Classic (in Dresden, OH) -- which matches your list -- has been posted on the band's Facebook page: 5:00 p.m. -- Fort Frye (C) 5:15 p.m. -- Crooksville (C) 5:30 p.m. -- Philo (C) 6:00 p.m. -- Morgan (B) 6:15 p.m. -- Meadowbrook (B) 6:30 p.m. -- Maysville (B) 6:45 p.m. -- John Glenn (B) 7:00 p.m. -- Licking Valley (B) 7:30 p.m. -- Zanesville (A) 7:45 p.m. -- Point Pleasant, WV (A) 8:00 p.m. -- Watkins Memorial (AA) 8:15 p.m. -- Canal Winchester (AA) 8:30 p.m. -- Dublin Coffmann (AA) 8:45 p.m. -- Hilliard Darby (AA) 9:15 p.m. --- Tri-Valley (A) My thanks to the parent who posted a comment asking for that a couple days ago. She got results!
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Oct 20, 2022 19:33:06 GMT -6
Spoke too soon. Be sure to get the latest booster shot, folks. This is just miserable. Hang in there. I had COVID in March 2021 and I don't think I've ever slept so much in my entire life. Sorry to hear that! And just before the vaccines began to be widely distributed, too. I got my first two shots the next month in Cleveland State University's arena, administered by National Guard members. Spoke too soon. Be sure to get the latest booster shot, folks. This is just miserable. Rest up and feel better soon, please and thanks! Thanks to you both for the good wishes. The fever has broken, so I think I'm on the right track.
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Oct 21, 2022 10:50:17 GMT -6
Bands at the Shawnee show may include Marysville, Newton, Shawnee, and Sycamore. Like you, I haven't seen a schedule for the Shawnee March-O-Rama (last year I lucked out thanks to their sweatshirt vendor listing all the bands), so I emailed them to ask. We'll see. My thanks to the Clark-Shawnee Band Boosters, who sent me a screenshot of the schedule from the program book for this weekend's Shawnee March-O-Rama (Springfield, OH): 11:00 a.m. -- Northeastern (C) 11:15 a.m. -- Madison-Plains (C) 11:30 a.m. -- Lynchburg-Clay (C) 11:45 a.m. -- Carlisle (B) 12:00 p.m. -- Northwestern (B) 12:15 p.m. -- Deer Park (B) 12:30 p.m. -- London (B) 12:45 p.m. -- Ottawa-Glandorf (B) 1:15 p.m. -- Newton (A) 1:30 p.m. -- Edgewood (A) 1:45 p.m. -- Bellefontaine (A) 2:00 p.m. -- Middletown (AA) 2:15 p.m. -- Marysville (AA) 2:30 p.m. -- Sycamore (AA) 2:45 p.m. -- Dublin Scioto (AA) 3:00 p.m. -- Shawnee (C - Ratings Only) 3:45 p.m. Awards There's an error in the program, which lists a break from 12:45 p.m. (when Ottawa-Glandorf starts) until 1:15 p.m. I think they'll give the judges a full half hour for lunch there, so my guess is that Newton doesn't go on until 1:30 p.m., everyone after that is shifted fifteen minutes later, and then there's only 15 minutes not 30 minutes form the end of Shawnee's performance to the awards at 3:45 p.m. But that's only my guess.
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Post by ohioguy2 on Oct 21, 2022 14:38:23 GMT -6
OMEA River View 10/15
Class AA
1. Thomas Worthington 89.7 (I) 2. Westerville South 87.3 (I) 3. Olentangy Liberty 83.1 (I)
Class A
1. New Philadelphia 86.4 (I)
Class B
1. Ridgewood 86.5 (I) 2. Meigs 79.8 (I) 3. Union Local 74.1 (II) 4. Cambridge 68.0 (III) Ex River View (I)
Class C
1. Crooksville 76.4 (II) 2. Coshocton 71.3 (II)
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Post by neop on Oct 21, 2022 20:05:08 GMT -6
There will be 17 groups (including the host) participating in the Tecumseh Showcase of Bands, per the band's Facebook page. The first group performs at 5 p.m. and Tecumseh performs at 10 p.m. I submitted a question via their website asking if the schedule could be posted. We'll see. Tecumseh Showcase of Bands5:00pm - Covington (C) 5:15pm - Marion Local (C) 5:30pm - Lynchburg-Clay (C) 5:45pm - Columbus Grove (C) 6:00pm - Northeastern (C) 6:15pm - Bethel (C) 6:30pm - BREAK 6:45pm - Ottawa-Glandorf (B) 7:00pm - Waynesville (B) 7:15pm - Versailles (B) 7:30pm - Northwestern (B) 7:45pm - Carlisle (B) 8:00pm - BREAK 8:30pm - Bellefontaine (A) 8:45pm - Wilmington (A) 9:00pm - Greenville (A) 9:15pm - Tippecanoe (A) 9:30pm - Marysville (AA) 9:45pm - BREAK 10:00pm - Tecumseh (A) 10:15pm - AWARDS
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Oct 21, 2022 20:27:59 GMT -6
There will be 17 groups (including the host) participating in the Tecumseh Showcase of Bands, per the band's Facebook page. The first group performs at 5 p.m. and Tecumseh performs at 10 p.m. I submitted a question via their website asking if the schedule could be posted. We'll see. Tecumseh Showcase of Bands... 6:45pm - Ottawa-Glandorf (B) ... Nice work! Interestingly, it's a longer drive for Ottawa/Glandorf south to Tecumseh (New Carlisle) than north to Swanton, but as I said of my own planning earlier this week, if you're going to be attend two shows on Saturday (e.g., to double your chances of qualifying for state), the evening show can't be in northern Ohio (Swanton, Copley, or New Philadelphia). Marion Local -- which is closer to Tecumseh -- seems to have adopted the other strategy: maximize rehearsal time earlier in the day and put all your eggs into one evening basket/competition. One year, Buckeye attended two different *evening* shows on the last Saturday: they left the New Philadelphia contest early in order to attend the Brunswick competition -- and it was the right move, because they only qualified at the latter.
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Post by neop on Oct 21, 2022 21:43:05 GMT -6
As an undergraduate CS student taking data science courses and an overall nerd, I feel that it is time to weaponize my powers of meaningless data analysis! I took the scores from the 2021 OMEA MB season to put together a sort of model for the growth of the average band's score over the course of a 7-week season. Then, I applied it to the scores from this season in a vague attempt to predict what bands were destined to qualify for state and which were not. I did the same for superior ratings at state, but that's not the story I want to discuss in this post. I also ran this same prediction for all the WV bands that made appearances, but since they are very unlikely to participate at state (are they even allowed?), I do not include them here. Without further ado, let's see which bands might take up those final spots at OMEA SMBF this year. First, the bands that have not qualified and do not have any competitions this weekend: (Band (Class) - Most Recent Score (rating, week number) - Last State Appearance)Colerain (AA)
| 77.6 (II, week 6)
| 2015 (II - AA)
| Portsmouth West (B)
| 76.356 (II, week 6)
| 2021 (II - B)
| Liberty-Benton (B)
| 75.48 (II, week 6)
| NEVER
| Minford (B)
| 74.616 (II, week 6)
| 2021 (II - B)
| Valley (C)
| 74.488 (II, week 6)
| 2019 (II - C)
| East Clinton (C)
| 73.16 (II, week 5)
| 1984 (II - C)
| Brookville (C)
| 71.5 (II, week 5)
| 2009 (I - B)
| Symmes Valley (C)
| 69.644 (II, week 6)
| 1996 (III - C)
| Firelands (B)*
| N/A (II, week 6)
| NEVER
| Mississinawa Valley (C)
| 71.76 (III, week 6)
| 1983 (I - C)
| National Trail (C)
| 70.713 (III, week 6)
| 1997 (II - B)
| Cambridge (B)
| 65 (III, week 6)
| 2021 (II - B)
| Trimble (C)
| 63.04 (III, week 6)
| 2003 (II - C)
| Elgin (C)
| 62.6 (III, week 4)
| 1983 (III - B)
| Portsmouth (B)
| 61.064 (III, week 6)
| 1997 (II - B)
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*Firelands was not scored at their only show.
Some of these bands (like Colerain and East Clinton) may not have attended SMBF even if they had qualified, but I included them here anyways. Some of the other bands have not been to state in quite a while! Here's hoping they have more success next season and continue to work hard, as I'd love to see some new (or old?) faces at SMBF. There's also one band in particular I'd like to give an honorable mention to: Sylvania Southview will compete this weekend for the first time, and as such, I have exactly zero data on them and cannot make a prediction. Best of luck to them! Now for the bands who have not yet qualified for state and are competing this weekend. I will organize them in different sections by the percent chance I give them to reach state based on their scores this season.
(Band (Class) - Most Recent Score (rating, week number) - Last State Appearance - Shows Tomorrow)
Bands with a >95% chance of qualifying: Buckeye (B)
| 78.82 (II, week 6)
| 2021 (I - B)
| Thomas Worthington
| Carlisle (B)
| 79.04 (II, week 6)
| 2021 (II - B)
| Shawnee, Tecumseh
| Chesapeake (C)
| 80.92 (II, week 6)
| 2021 (I - C)
| Lancaster
| Delaware Hayes (AA)
| 78.292 (II, week 5)
| 2021 (I - AA)
| Thomas Worthington
| Hamilton Township (A)
| 78.659 (II, week 5)
| 2021 (II - A)
| Lancaster
| Lancaster (AA)
| 78.64 (II, week 4)
| 2021 (II - AA)
| Newark, Lancaster
| Tippecanoe (A)
| 78.64 (II, week 5)
| 2021 (I - A)
| Tecumseh
| Walter E. Stebbins (A)
| 79.02 (II, week 6)
| 2021 (I - A)
| Forest Hills
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Bands with a 75-94.99% chance of qualifying: Bellefontaine (A)
| 77.5 (II, week 5)
| 2019 (II - A)
| Shawnee, Tecumseh
| Canal Winchester (AA)
| 77.76 (II, week 6)
| 2021 (II - AA)
| Tri-Valley
| Crooksville (C)
| 77.56 (II, week 6)
| NEVER
| Tri-Valley
| Fort Frye (C)
| 77.76 (II, week 6)
| 2005 (II - C)
| Tri-Valley
| Indian Valley (B)*
| 77.74 (II, week 5)
| 2021 (II - B)
| Newark, New Philadelphia
| Kalida (C)
| 77.42 (II, week 5)
| 2021 (II - C)
| Swanton
| Lynchburg-Clay (C)
| 77.208 (II, week 6)
| 2021 (I - C)
| Shawnee, Tecumseh
| Madison-Plains (C)**
| 76.466 (II, week 5)
| 2019 (I - C)
| Shawnee, Thomas Worthington
| Newton (A)
| 77.36 (II, week 4)
| 2021 (II - B)
| Shawnee
| St. John's Jesuit (B)
| 78.34 (II, week 6)
| 2021 (I - B)
| Swanton
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*Indian Valley was accidentally awarded a Superior at Norton on 10/8, and remains on the state schedule. I don't think OMEA would remove them if they didn't qualify, but I'm including them here because they have not technically qualified yet. **Absolute best of luck to Madison-Plains tomorrow. After the turbulent and tragic start to their season, I would love to see them qualify. Bands with a 50-74.99% chance of qualifying: Bethel (C)
| 75.6 (II, week 6)
| 2016 (II - C)
| Tecumseh
| Big Walnut (AA)
| 74.7 (II, week 5)
| 2021 (II - A)
| Newark
| Chillicothe (A)
| 76.162 (II, week 6)
| 2021 (II - A)
| Nelsonville-York
| Coventry (B)
| 74.92 (II, week 5)
| 2021 (II - B)
| New Philadelphia
| Fort Recovery (C)
| 74.42 (II, week 6)
| 2021 (II - C)
| Swanton
| Greenville (A)
| 74.52 (II, week 4)
| 2021 (II - A)
| Tecumseh
| Marion Local (C)*
| 76.12 (II, week 6)
| 2021 (II - C)
| Tecumseh
| Marlington (B)
| 74.36 (II, week 6)
| 2019 (II - A)
| New Philadelphia
| New London (C)
| 75.5 (II, week 6)
| NEVER
| Thomas Worthington
| Ottawa-Glandorf (B)
| 74.14 (II, week 5)
| 2021 (II - B)
| Shawnee, Tecumseh
| Perkins (B)
| 76.6 (II, week 6)
| 2021 (II - B)
| Copley
| Watkins Memorial (AA)
| 74.6 (II, week 6)
| 2021 (II - AA)
| Newark, Tri-Valley
| Wauseon (B)
| 73.8 (II, week 4)
| 2018 (I - B)
| Swanton
| Wellington (C)
| 74.46 (II, week 6)
| 2021 (I - C)
| Copley
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*May the streak continue! Fingers crossed!
Bands with a 25-49.99% chance of qualifying: Adena (C)
| 72.6 (II, week 6)
| 2013 (II - C)
| Thomas Worthington
| Fairbanks (C)
| 70.38 (II, week 3)
| 2009 (II - C)
| Lancaster
| Groveport Madison (AA)
| 73.42 (II, week 6)
| 2021 (II - AA)
| Newark
| Marietta (A)
| 74.2 (II, week 6)
| 2018 (II - A)
| New Philadelphia
| Morgan (B)
| 72.82 (II, week 6)
| 2018 (II - B)
| Tri-Valley
| Norwood (B)
| 73.3 (II, week 6)
| 2015 (II - B)
| Forest Hills
| Union Local (B)
| 72.56 (II, week 6)
| 2019 (II - C)
| New Philadelphia
| Waynesville (B)
| 72.8 (II, week 6)
| 2021 (II - B)
| Tecumseh
| Wellston (C)
| 73.658 (II, week 6)
| 2021 (II - B)
| Nelsonville-York
| Woodmore (C)
| 73.24 (II, week 5)
| 2019 (II - C)
| Swanton
| Zanesville (A)
| 70.108 (II, week 2)
| 2019 (II - A)
| Tri-Valley
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Bands with a <25% chance of qualifying: Bishop Watterson (A)
| 71.1 (III, week 5)
| 2021 (I - A)
| Thomas Worthington
| Blanchester (C)*
| 67.22 (III, week 5)
| 2019 (II - C)
| Forest Hills
| Coshocton (C)
| 71.3 (II, week 6)
| 2016 (II - B)
| New Philadelphia
| Crestview (C)
| 64.24 (III, week 1)
| 2001 (I - B)
| New Philadelphia
| Gallia Academy (B)
| 70.54 (II, week 4)
| 2019 (II - B)
| Nelsonville-York
| Maysville (B)
| 69.22 (III, week 4)
| 2021 (II - B)
| Tri-Valley
| Millersport (C)
| 71.2 (II, week 6)
| NEVER
| Lancaster
| Northeastern (C)
| 70.94 (III, week 6)
| 2019 (II - C)
| Shawnee, Tecumseh
| Shawnee (C)
| 69.7 (III, week 6)
| 2021 (I - B)
| Shawnee
| Southeastern (B)
| 71.3 (II, week 6)
| NEVER
| Lancaster
| Tecumseh (A)
| 63.5 (III, week 4)
| 2019 (II - A)
| Tecumseh
| Westfall (C)
| 67.1 (III, week 4)
| 2011 (II - B)
| Thomas Worthington
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*Blanchester did receive a II last weekend, but they were not scored. The OMEA SMBF schedule currently shows 21 empty slots. The chances of exactly 21 bands qualifying tomorrow are not very high, but if I was to predict 21 bands qualifying tomorrow based on my analysis, they would be: Chesapeake Hamilton Township Lancaster Tippecanoe Carlisle Walter E. Stebbins Delaware Hayes Buckeye Newton St. John's Jesuit Bellefontaine Kalida Canal Winchester Fort Frye Lynchburg-Clay Madison-Plains Crooksville Perkins Chillicothe Marion Local Greenville
Overall, I'd say it's possible for any of these bands to qualify for state. This is just a ROUGH estimate based on past scores. I cannot overstate how unpredictable the judging environment can be in OMEA, so it is reasonable to suggest that multiple bands with >95% chances of qualifying may not make it, and bands with <25% chances may make it. After all, probabilities are not certainties! This is just something I threw together because I love numbers and band.
(Also, please don't think that this model even holds a candle to hostrauser's. I am sure that one using his method would be much more accurate. I also can't imagine how awful this looks on mobile, so please proceed with caution!)
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Oct 21, 2022 23:22:59 GMT -6
As an undergraduate CS student taking data science courses and an overall nerd, I feel that it is time to weaponize my powers of meaningless data analysis! ... This is wonderful! Thanks so much. I was going to spend an hour or so on a much, much simpler version of what you've done here, but instead, I've just enjoyed perusing your work. Before I drop off to sleep, just a couple quick thoughts: --For the little it's worth, I thought Blanchester deserved a score of 72 last week (when they opted for a ratings-only adjudication at OSU). --I'm disappointed that Portsmouth West didn't and won't qualify this year. I haven't always loved their shows, but they've been interesting. --I've been at local OMEA competitions where out-of-state bands (from New York, West Virginia, and Indiana) qualified for State Finals, and in at least some of those cases, I remember the announcer saying that, while it was unlikely that they'd be making a return trip to Ohio, they were indeed eligible to participate. That said, I don't know if those statements were accurate. --That last year that Colerain qualified, they had defeated Turpin at a local competition, and Turpin had defeated Lakota West at a local competition, so I was expecting great things when I saw Colerain at SMBF, but no, that II rating was entirely fair. --Based on last year's results and/or their record over the past several years, it's rather shocking that Chesapeake, Delaware Hayes, Stebbins, Tippecanoe, St. John's Jesuit, Canal Winchester, Kalida, and Bishop Watterson haven't qualified yet. --My general and possibly inaccurate sense in past years is that at most one AA band fails to qualify, but you have three missing. Curious to see how that plays out. --It is possible that more than 21 bands qualify, in which case, they'll start one of the show days earlier or run later than the current draft schedule indicates. At least, it's happened before. Well, that's all I've got for now, except to say that I hope all these bands have their best performances of the year to date, that they leave the field knowing they've done all they can, and that even if they don't qualify, they don't let the experience turn them away from competing again next year.
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Post by neop on Oct 21, 2022 23:39:48 GMT -6
--I've been at local OMEA competitions where out-of-state bands (from New York, West Virginia, and Indiana) qualified for State Finals, and in at least some of those cases, I remember the announcer saying that, while it was unlikely that they'd be making a return trip to Ohio, they were indeed eligible to participate. That said, I don't know if those statements were accurate. --Based on last year's results and/or their record over the past several years, it's rather shocking that Chesapeake, Delaware Hayes, Stebbins, Tippecanoe, St. John's Jesuit, Canal Winchester, Kalida, and Bishop Watterson haven't qualified yet. --My general and possibly inaccurate sense in past years is that at most one AA band fails to qualify, but you have three missing. Curious to see how that plays out. The only out of state band competing this weekend is Point Pleasant, who has already qualified, so it's actually not much use for me to put any of the others on this list anyways. I had Spring Valley at >99.99%, Huntington at 49.80%, and Ravenswood at 5.67%. I believe I only competed against one out of state band during my years: West Seneca (NY) attended the Avon Lake show in 2018 as part of a band trip to Cedar Point. They did not qualify. For what it's worth, I generally can't keep track of penalties since I don't have data about exact scores received before penalties. I do know that Bishop Watterson suffered 5 points in penalties, but for the sake of fairness to other penalty-stricken bands, I left it out. If I adjust their score to their pre-penalty 76.1, they land at 74.47% chance of qualifying, which is much better than I have them listed above. If any band is going to beat the odds and qualify out of that last category, my money is on them. You're right that usually 0-1 AA bands fail to qualify. However, last year there were two (Avon Lake and Firestone, which coincidentally both moved down to A this year and proceeded to qualify for the first time since 2019 at the same show). This year, I have Big Walnut at 60.22%, Watkins Memorial at 52.54%, and Groveport Madison at 40.64%. Those odds aren't bad at all for any of them, and it's entirely possible all 3 could make it. However, in contrast, Lancaster's >99.99%, Delaware Hayes' 96.78%, and Canal Winchester's 84.42% are by no means guarantees. We could have all 6 qualify, we could have none qualify, we could have odd combinations of qualifiers that I wouldn't expect, etc., and that uncertainty is what leads me to emphasize that nothing is certain until a band has either qualified or performed at its final show! I also very much hesitate to put Crooksville and Fort Frye where they are due to their frequent absences at SMBF (maybe for fear of jinxing it!), but their scores do indicate a chance that is much better than a coin flip. If there are any results I'm looking forward to seeing this weekend, it's the scores of Crooksville, Fort Frye, and Marion Local.
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Oct 22, 2022 7:06:12 GMT -6
--I've been at local OMEA competitions where out-of-state bands (from New York, West Virginia, and Indiana) qualified for State Finals, and in at least some of those cases, I remember the announcer saying that, while it was unlikely that they'd be making a return trip to Ohio, they were indeed eligible to participate. That said, I don't know if those statements were accurate. The only out of state band competing this weekend is Point Pleasant, who has already qualified, so it's actually not much use for me to put any of the others on this list anyways. I had Spring Valley at >99.99%, Huntington at 49.80%, and Ravenswood at 5.67%. I believe I only competed against one out of state band during my years: West Seneca (NY) attended the Avon Lake show in 2018 as part of a band trip to Cedar Point. They did not qualify. Speaking of penalties, my understanding is that West Seneca was actually disqualified at that show.
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Post by neop on Oct 22, 2022 15:14:42 GMT -6
Trying to keep track of updates as I sit here at Copley. Watkins Memorial, Chillicothe, Indian Valley, and Lynchburg-Clay have all qualified this afternoon. Gallia Academy and Nelsonville-York (which did in fact receive a rating at their home show) did not qualify.
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Post by ohiobandgeek on Oct 22, 2022 17:16:29 GMT -6
Former GC band member here- I think that COVID disruption will continue to affect bands for the next few years. It isn't just the HS bands but its also the junior HS bands and student development that were impacted. GC did the best they could during COVID lockdowns but practice field time is critical. I have a close friend who is a new band director in Ohio and he has told us that COVID still impacts his band and obviously that trickles down to performances on the field. Another central Ohio band had BOTH directors out last week due to COVID. So no rehearsals for a week. Speaking from formerly inside the GC machine, I can tell you that the primary focus is on music , and then music. I know the directors were planning on significant changes to the program and shows prior to COVID after feedback and offers after BOA Regionals, but those plans may have been delayed. I know fundraising took a huge hit as well, so it may take a few years for many schools to recover. Im just thrilled to see band competitions again!!
Oh and Pickerington North parents who pushed to change the band to exhibition only- you all suck. You destroyed a great program run by an outstanding director, by being selfish and petty. Hundreds of kids will miss out on a great experience long after your kids have graduated.
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Post by ohioguy2 on Oct 22, 2022 17:43:16 GMT -6
Trying to keep track of updates as I sit here at Copley. Watkins Memorial, Chillicothe, Indian Valley, and Lynchburg-Clay have all qualified this afternoon. Gallia Academy and Nelsonville-York (which did in fact receive a rating at their home show) did not qualify. Lancaster and Big Walnut did not qualify at Newark.
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Post by ohioguy2 on Oct 22, 2022 17:59:45 GMT -6
Trying to keep track of updates as I sit here at Copley. Watkins Memorial, Chillicothe, Indian Valley, and Lynchburg-Clay have all qualified this afternoon. Gallia Academy and Nelsonville-York (which did in fact receive a rating at their home show) did not qualify. Carlisle, Northeastern, Madison-Plains and Shawnee did not qualify at Shawnee.
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Post by neop on Oct 22, 2022 20:21:07 GMT -6
Copley InvitationalClass AA: 1. Amherst Steele - I 2. Brunswick (Perc) - I 3. Medina (CG) - I Class A: 1. Norton (Perc) - I 2. St. Edward - I 3. Cloverleaf (CG) - I Participation: Avon Lake - I Participation: Willoughby South - I Class B: 1. Black River (Perc) - I 2. Perkins (CG) Class C: 1. Wellington (Perc, CG) - I Overall Awards: Music - Amherst Steele GE - Amherst Steele Visual - Amherst Steele Reserve Grand Champion - Brunswick Grand Champion - Amherst Steele
Amherst Steele apparently won by over 2 points, scoring a 91.66! I personally would have given the win to Norton, but I think that's a product of OMEA judges meeting BOA show design.
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Post by neop on Oct 22, 2022 20:26:53 GMT -6
IN: Bishop Watterson has qualified at Thomas Worthington.
Canal Winchester has qualified at Tri-Valley. Carlisle has qualified at Tecumseh.
Chillicothe has qualified at Nelsonville-York.
Coventry has qualified at New Philadelphia. Delaware Hayes has qualified at Thomas Worthington. Fort Recovery has qualified at Swanton. Greenville has qualified at Tecumseh. Hamilton Township has qualified at Lancaster. Kalida has qualified at Swanton.
Lancaster has qualified at Lancaster.
Lynchburg-Clay has qualified at Shawnee. St. John's Jesuit has qualified at Swanton. Tippecanoe has qualified at Tecumseh.
Walter E. Stebbins has qualified at Forest Hills. Watkins Memorial has qualified at Newark.
Wellington has qualified at Copley.
OUT: Adena failed to qualify at Thomas Worthington.
Bellefontaine failed to qualify at Tecumseh. Bethel failed to qualify at Tecumseh.
Big Walnut failed to qualify at Newark.
Blanchester failed to qualify at Forest Hills. Buckeye failed to qualify at Thomas Worthington. Chesapeake failed to qualify at Lancaster. Coshocton failed to qualify at New Philadelphia. Crestview failed to qualify at New Philadelphia.
Crooksville failed to qualify at Tri-Valley. Fairbanks failed to qualify at Lancaster.
Fort Frye failed to qualify at Tri-Valley. Gallia Academy failed to qualify at Nelsonville-York. Groveport Madison failed to qualify at Newark. Madison-Plains failed to qualify at Thomas Worthington. Marietta failed to qualify at New Philadelphia.
Marion Local failed to qualify at Tecumseh. Marlington failed to qualify at New Philadelphia.
Maysville failed to qualify at Tri-Valley. Millersport failed to qualify at Lancaster.
Morgan failed to qualify at Tri-Valley.
Nelsonville-York failed to qualify at Nelsonville-York. New London failed to qualify at Thomas Worthington. Newton failed to qualify at Shawnee.
Northeastern failed to qualify at Tecumseh.
Norwood failed to qualify at Forest Hills. Ottawa-Glandorf failed to qualify at Tecumseh. Perkins failed to qualify at Copley. Shawnee failed to qualify at Shawnee.
Southeastern failed to qualify at Lancaster. Tecumseh failed to qualify at Tecumseh. Wauseon failed to qualify at Swanton.
Waynesville failed to qualify at Tecumseh. Wellston failed to qualify at Nelsonville-York.
Westfall failed to qualify at Thomas Worthington. Woodmore failed to qualify at Swanton.
Zanesville failed to qualify at Tri-Valley.
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Post by neop on Oct 22, 2022 21:24:39 GMT -6
I also very much hesitate to put Crooksville and Fort Frye where they are due to their frequent absences at SMBF (maybe for fear of jinxing it!),
AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! Why did I say anything??
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Post by lovemb00 on Oct 22, 2022 21:41:39 GMT -6
Former GC band member here- I think that COVID disruption will continue to affect bands for the next few years. It isn't just the HS bands but its also the junior HS bands and student development that were impacted. GC did the best they could during COVID lockdowns but practice field time is critical. I have a close friend who is a new band director in Ohio and he has told us that COVID still impacts his band and obviously that trickles down to performances on the field. Another central Ohio band had BOTH directors out last week due to COVID. So no rehearsals for a week. Speaking from formerly inside the GC machine, I can tell you that the primary focus is on music , and then music. I know the directors were planning on significant changes to the program and shows prior to COVID after feedback and offers after BOA Regionals, but those plans may have been delayed. I know fundraising took a huge hit as well, so it may take a few years for many schools to recover. Im just thrilled to see band competitions again!! Oh and Pickerington North parents who pushed to change the band to exhibition only- you all suck. You destroyed a great program run by an outstanding director, by being selfish and petty. Hundreds of kids will miss out on a great experience long after your kids have graduated. So I never reported back after attending the Pickerington Band Festival in September because mostly what I heard from spectators about Pickerington North’s change to festival status was already pointed out in an earlier post on this forum. But after reading OhioBandGeek’s comment above, I felt the need to mention that most of the parents I chit chatted with (including a co worker I hadn’t realized had a student in the PN band) at that September show did not push to have the band change to festival status. I did learn the current director had more to do with the change than previously stated. The parents mentioned a very general survey that was sent to all parents and band students. The director had mentioned those survey results as back up for reasoning of the switch. It seemed parents were just as shocked about the change in competition status as the students were. I got the impression that a lot of the parents aren’t happy but are trying to make the best of this change.
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Oct 22, 2022 23:03:02 GMT -6
Oh and Pickerington North parents who pushed to change the band to exhibition only- you all suck. You destroyed a great program run by an outstanding director, by being selfish and petty. Hundreds of kids will miss out on a great experience long after your kids have graduated. So I never reported back after attending the Pickerington Band Festival in September because mostly what I heard from spectators about Pickerington North’s change to festival status was already pointed out in an earlier post on this forum. But after reading OhioBandGeek’s comment above, I felt the need to mention that most of the parents I chit chatted with (including a co worker I hadn’t realized had a student in the PN band) at that September show did not push to have the band change to festival status. I did learn the current director had more to do with the change than previously stated. The parents mentioned a very general survey that was sent to all parents and band students. The director had mentioned those survey results as back up for reasoning of the switch. It seemed parents were just as shocked about the change in competition status as the students were. I got the impression that a lot of the parents aren’t happy but are trying to make the best of this change. Thanks to everyone for their insights. What I heard from some Pickerington Central parents today at Newark -- so obviously this is not as strong as lovemb00's report -- is that there were concerns that too few students were participating in band because of the hard work required for competitions, and that making this change would improve that. Welp.
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Post by neop on Oct 22, 2022 23:33:32 GMT -6
The worst has come to pass. We are now down to two bands maintaining a streak of attending every OMEA SMBF. Marion Local did not qualify at Tecumseh, according to a video of the awards ceremony I saw on the Carlisle boosters facebook group.
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Oct 22, 2022 23:37:36 GMT -6
Apart from some lingering drainage, I was feeling pretty well this morning, and although I had slept in a bit so as to encourage continued recovery, I decided to head out to two shows after all (but not in time to see the first five bands at Newark). Even though it was outdoors, I wore a mask at both venues in keeping with CDC guidance. And here are the announced results from these two shows on the final regular season OMEA weekend:
47th Annual Newark Marching Band Invititational (Newark, OH - Oct. 22, 2022) Class B 1. Licking Valley - Music, Percussion, Guard - I 2. Indian Valley - I 3. River View - I
Class A 1. Lexington - Music - I 2. Point Pleasant, WV - Guard - I 3. Rock Hill - Percussion - I
Class AA 1. Hilliard Bradley - Music - I 2. Licking Heights - Percussion, Guard - I 3. Dublin Jerome - I Westland - I Pickerington Central - I Watkins Memorial - I Host: Newark - I
Overall Visual: Licking Heights G.E.: Hilliard Bradley Music: Hilliard Bradley Percussion: Licking Heights Guard: Licking Heights Reserve G.C.: Licking Heights Grand Champion: Hilliard Bradley
I agree on the composition but not the order of the top three, although I thought it was close.
Lancaster, Groveport Madison, and Big Walnut didn't qualify. I didn't see Lancaster (but at OSU a week earlier, I felt they were less than a point away from doing so: of course it depends on at least three judges putting them over the threshold). The latter two shouldn't have qualified based on this afternoon's performances, but Walnut seemed closer than Groveport.
Preview of Champions (Thomas Worthington H.S., Worthington, OH - Oct. 22, 2022) Class C 1. Adena 2. Madison-Plains - 2nd place Percussion, 2nd place Guard 3. New London - 1st place Percussion, 1st place Guard
Class B 1. Heath - 1st place Percussion, 2nd place Guard - I 2. London - 1st place Guard 3. Buckeye - 2nd place Percussion
Class A 1. Bishop Watterson - Percussion, Guard - I
Class AA 1. Grove City - 1st place Percussion, 1st place Guard - I 2. Dublin Jerome - 2nd place Guard - I 3. Worthington Kilbourne - I Pickerington Central - 2nd place Percussion - I Reynoldsburg - I Delaware Hayes - I Host: Thomas Worthington - I
Overall Music: Grove City Visual: Grove City G.E.: Grove City Reserve G.C.: Dublin Jerome G.C.: Grove City
I agree on both the composition and the order of the top three, although I thought Jerome and Kilbourne were basically tied. I would absolutely love to the heard the tapes from color guard judge Brian Bethel. I had Buckeye ahead of London in Class B, and I had the top three in Class C reversed, but with close scores.
Adena, Madison-Plains, New London, and Westfall in Class C did not qualify, and nor should they have. In Class B, London and Buckeye didn't qualify, but I thought Buckeye was one of those edge cases and that they deserved a chance to prove at State that they've finally mastered their difficult show. Oh well. I was really surprised based on tonight's performances that Bishop Watterson and Delaware Hayes had not previously qualified; it seemed obvious that they would get a Superior tonight, and I'm glad they did.
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Oct 22, 2022 23:55:09 GMT -6
The worst has come to pass. We are now down to two bands maintaining a streak of attending every OMEA SMBF. Marion Local did not qualify at Tecumseh, according to a video of the awards ceremony I saw on the Carlisle boosters facebook group. That's a shame. And I see from your other post that Perkins also has missed, their second time ever doing so. I hope both bands chalk up this year's experience to the pandemic, figure out what needs to be done, and return stronger next year.
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Post by neop on Oct 22, 2022 23:57:22 GMT -6
The worst has come to pass. We are now down to two bands maintaining a streak of attending every OMEA SMBF. Marion Local did not qualify at Tecumseh, according to a video of the awards ceremony I saw on the Carlisle boosters facebook group. That's a shame. And I see from your other post that Perkins also has missed, their second time ever doing so. I hope both bands chalk up this year's experience to the pandemic, figure out what needs to be done, and return stronger next year. At Copley tonight, it could have gone either way for Perkins and Wellington. I imagine they were both very very close to the I/II line. I thought Buckeye was one of those edge cases and that they deserved a chance to prove at State that they've finally mastered their difficult show. I really really thought Buckeye would end up making it! That's a massive disappointment for me.
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Oct 23, 2022 0:02:41 GMT -6
As for Swanton ... I have to think this will be tight between Van Buren and North Royalton, and if I were betting, my money would be on Van Buren to win. I would have lost that bet, although possibly Van Buren took both music and visual? North Royalton took G.E. (and percussion and guard).
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Oct 23, 2022 0:11:41 GMT -6
I thought Buckeye was one of those edge cases and that they deserved a chance to prove at State that they've finally mastered their difficult show. I really really thought Buckeye would end up making it! That's a massive disappointment for me. I suspect that, in part, they got stubborn about suggestions from the judges. Early in the season, each of their three movements was preceded by this really boring prerecorded narration explaining the style of Latin music that movement would assay. It stopped the show cold, three times. Much of that information was already in the printed program. It should have stayed there. I feel it's very likely that the judges told them as much, because later that narration was out of the show... but it was instead dumped into the preshow, this time in one big lump. Now, as least that part isn't judged, but the narrative exposition wasn't setting the stage in an appetizing way for the audience. I wanted to yell, "Turn that garbage off: no one gives a #@$*!" I didn't, of course, but it made me think how writers are told by editors to "murder their darlings." There was too much show for the band to chew, and they don't seem to have been willing to get rid of anything. Cut the drill by 10% and so forth, and they might have made it.
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Post by neop on Oct 23, 2022 0:22:02 GMT -6
I couldn't find anything about how Sylvania Southview ended up being rated, but I did get to see a video of them from Facebook. They performed a show comprised of popular music. I think there are definitely some great sounds coming from this band! They don't look bad either. I hope they come back and compete again!
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Oct 23, 2022 0:36:06 GMT -6
Newton did not qualify at Shawnee. There is Youtube video of most of the awards ceremony taken by some very happy Middletown students (they were grand champion), and it includes the full announcement of qualifiers.
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Post by neop on Oct 23, 2022 0:41:48 GMT -6
Newton did not qualify at Shawnee. There is Youtube video of most of the awards ceremony taken by some very happy Middletown students (they were grand champion), and it includes the full announcement of qualifiers. Thanks! I've found judging to be a bit abnormal all season, but a few of tonight's results have been especially confusing. Maybe I would understand better if I was able to see the final shows put on by some of these near-miss bands. That's only Newton's second miss, no?
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Oct 23, 2022 0:58:44 GMT -6
OMEA Wilmington 10/8
Class AA 1. Hilliard Davidson 86.0 (I) 2. Kettering Fairmont 85.1 (I) 3. Springboro 84.1 (I) ... Class B 1. Finneytown 85.5 (I) Meaning no offense to Finneytown, which has put on some fine shows in recent seasons; and with much respect to Davidson's entertaining show (but can they please make it so the audience can't hear the metronome they use at the start of every movement?); but: what's up with Kettering this year? Maybe nothing's up with Kettering, given they had one of their better showings ever at BOA Indianapolis this week? Either they had a really rough run at Wilmington two weeks ago, or OMEA's judges were all wet, or BOA's judges screwed up in Indy, but there's no way a one-point gap in OMEA (between Kettering and Springboro) translates to a ten-point gap in BOA. I'm glad I'll get to see all these bands at OMEA state finals, and can make up my own mind in person.
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Oct 23, 2022 1:03:49 GMT -6
Newton did not qualify at Shawnee. There is Youtube video of most of the awards ceremony taken by some very happy Middletown students (they were grand champion), and it includes the full announcement of qualifiers. Thanks! I've found judging to be a bit abnormal all season, but a few of tonight's results have been especially confusing. Maybe I would understand better if I was able to see the final shows put on by some of these near-miss bands. That's only Newton's second miss, no? Pretty sure that's right. Glad to see as per your regularly updating post that Lancaster qualified. As a band member back in the 1980s, I saw them just once but never forgot them. Gershwin's Concerto in F, I believe it was, with a bit that I learned much later was stolen from drum corps in which the cymbal players learned way back so that the snares could step over them.
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