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Post by coleeich on Oct 2, 2022 16:56:01 GMT -6
I have seen this done in the past, so I wanted to bring it back and see what everyone's thoughts were! We are starting to get into the thick of the season now, so it would be interesting to see where people think various groups stand based on state.
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Post by ilikeguard on Oct 2, 2022 18:29:32 GMT -6
It’s back!!
Missouri Rankings 10/2
1. Blue Springs (Kansas City)
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2. Grain Valley (Kansas City)
3. Camdenton (Lake of the Ozarks)
4. Blue Springs South (Kansas City)
5. Nixa (Springfield)
6. Kickapoo (Springfield)
7. Rockwood Summit (St. Louis)
8. Oakville (St. Louis)
9. Fort Zumwalt North (St. Louis)
10. Rock Bridge (Columbia)
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11. Hickman (Columbia)
12. Hollister (Springfield)
13. Lindbergh (St. Louis)
14. Sullivan (St. Louis)
15. Lee’s Summit (Kansas City)
Included regions for a better look at the general distribution of bands across the state. Without looking at my rankings from last year, I believe this is the first time on the list for Oakville, Hickman, Lindbergh, and Lee’s Summit.
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Post by antroot on Oct 2, 2022 18:36:22 GMT -6
These are my top 10 rankings for Washington and Oregon, only including bands that have performed and have been scored.
Oregon
1. Grants Pass
2. Century
3. Roseburg
4. Glencoe
5. North Salem
6. Westview
7. Aloha
8. McKay
9. McMinnville
10. South Albany
Washington
1. Ridgeline
2. A.C. Davis
3. Cheney
4. Mead
5. North Thurston
6. Chiawana
7. Tahoma
8. Pasco
9. Hanford
10. West Valley
West Salem, Mountainside, and Sherwood, and many other schools have been omitted from this list because they haven't debuted their performances yet. Kamiak performed and hosted their own competition yesterday, but because they were exhibition, their scores were not released. If anyone's wondering, I would put them at No. 1 spot for Washington.
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Post by nomorehoney on Oct 2, 2022 19:17:16 GMT -6
These are my top 10 rankings for Washington and Oregon, only including bands that have performed and have been scored. Oregon1. Grants Pass 2. Century 3. Roseburg 4. Glencoe 5. North Salem 6. Westview 7. Aloha 8. McKay 9. McMinnville 10. South Albany Washington1. Ridgeline 2. A.C. Davis 3. Cheney 4. Mead 5. North Thurston 6. Chiawana 7. Tahoma 8. Pasco 9. Hanford 10. West Valley West Salem, Mountainside, and Sherwood, and many other schools have been omitted from this list because they haven't debuted their performances yet. Kamiak performed and hosted their own competition yesterday, but because they were exhibition, their scores were not released. If anyone's wondering, I would put them at No. 1 spot for Washington. What class would Kamiak be if they were to participate in a BOA event? |
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Post by nomorehoney on Oct 2, 2022 19:18:39 GMT -6
I have seen this done in the past, so I wanted to bring it back and see what everyone's thoughts were! We are starting to get into the thick of the season now, so it would be interesting to see where people think various groups stand based on state. Top 10 in Illinois: 1. O'Fallon Township 2. Lincoln-Way 3. Marian Catholic 4. Morton (Disputable) 5. Normal 6. Prospect 7. VJA 8. John Hersey 9. Plainfield North 10. Lockport Township/Edwardsville/Belleville East/Granite City |
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Post by yayband914 on Oct 2, 2022 19:36:59 GMT -6
These are my top 10 rankings for Washington and Oregon, only including bands that have performed and have been scored. Oregon1. Grants Pass 2. Century 3. Roseburg 4. Glencoe 5. North Salem 6. Westview 7. Aloha 8. McKay 9. McMinnville 10. South Albany Washington1. Ridgeline 2. A.C. Davis 3. Cheney 4. Mead 5. North Thurston 6. Chiawana 7. Tahoma 8. Pasco 9. Hanford 10. West Valley West Salem, Mountainside, and Sherwood, and many other schools have been omitted from this list because they haven't debuted their performances yet. Kamiak performed and hosted their own competition yesterday, but because they were exhibition, their scores were not released. If anyone's wondering, I would put them at No. 1 spot for Washington. What class would Kamiak be if they were to participate in a BOA event? Most likely AAA. |
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Post by antroot on Oct 2, 2022 19:38:41 GMT -6
These are my top 10 rankings for Washington and Oregon, only including bands that have performed and have been scored. Oregon1. Grants Pass 2. Century 3. Roseburg 4. Glencoe 5. North Salem 6. Westview 7. Aloha 8. McKay 9. McMinnville 10. South Albany Washington1. Ridgeline 2. A.C. Davis 3. Cheney 4. Mead 5. North Thurston 6. Chiawana 7. Tahoma 8. Pasco 9. Hanford 10. West Valley West Salem, Mountainside, and Sherwood, and many other schools have been omitted from this list because they haven't debuted their performances yet. Kamiak performed and hosted their own competition yesterday, but because they were exhibition, their scores were not released. If anyone's wondering, I would put them at No. 1 spot for Washington. What class would Kamiak be if they were to participate in a BOA event? I believe they would be AAA. |
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Post by yayband914 on Oct 2, 2022 19:47:16 GMT -6
Wisconsin Rankings 10/03
1. Greendale (Grand Nationals)
2. Oak Creek
3. River Falls
4. Sauk Prairie
5. Mukwonago
6. Waukesha North (Indianapolis)
7. Cumberland
8. Baldwin-Woodville
9. Waukesha West
10. Germantown
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Post by bandisjoy on Oct 2, 2022 20:41:29 GMT -6
It’s back!! Missouri Rankings 10/2 1. Blue Springs (Kansas City) ———————————— 2. Grain Valley (Kansas City) 3. Camdenton (Lake of the Ozarks) 4. Blue Springs South (Kansas City) 5. Nixa (Springfield) 6. Kickapoo (Springfield) I almost totally agree with your list - I could see a case for swapping 3 & 4 at this point. I'm assuming "————————————" denotes a gap in scores and if so I think there's a case for:
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3. Camdenton (Lake of the Ozarks)
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1. Blue Springs (Kansas City) 2. Grain Valley (Kansas City)
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Post by ilikeguard on Oct 2, 2022 21:10:54 GMT -6
It’s back!! Missouri Rankings 10/2 1. Blue Springs (Kansas City) ———————————— 2. Grain Valley (Kansas City) 3. Camdenton (Lake of the Ozarks) 4. Blue Springs South (Kansas City) 5. Nixa (Springfield) 6. Kickapoo (Springfield) I almost totally agree with your list - I could see a case for swapping 3 & 4 at this point. I'm assuming "————————————" denotes a gap in scores and if so I think there's a case for:
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2. Grain Valley (Kansas City)
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3. Camdenton (Lake of the Ozarks)
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1. Blue Springs (Kansas City) 2. Grain Valley (Kansas City)
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3. Camdenton (Lake of the Ozarks)
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3 and 4, as well as 5 and 6, are very close, and will probably fluctuate throughout the season. I believe that Camdenton’s ceiling is higher than Blue Springs South’s, and last year’s St. Louis results were far too close to give them a definitive lead. Kickapoo beat Nixa last week, but in the same vein they’re too close, and Nixa’s two captions from the last time they faced each other give them an edge in my rankings for this week. I’m hesitant to put a line between Grain Valley and Camdenton at this point in the season, but I’m open to it depending on the Indy SR results. However, I would rather group them together than group the former with Blue Springs. Grain Valley and Camdenton are both too inconsistent to be in a level tier with a consistent GN finalist. Right now, I think Blue Springs is the only band deserving of their own tier - the other cutoff is just for top 10. |
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Post by mtnxdrew on Oct 3, 2022 5:13:38 GMT -6
Michigan:
1. Jenison
2. Rockford
3. Walled Lake
4. Reeths-Puffer
5. Plymouth-Canton
6. Lake Orion
7. DeWitt
8-10. Not sure yet, need some more competitions
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Post by es203 on Oct 3, 2022 6:18:30 GMT -6
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1. Wando
2. James F. Byrnes
3. Catawba Ridge
4. Fort Mill
5. Nation Ford
6. Summerville
7. Clover
8. Mauldin
9. York
10. Boiling Springs
11. Lexington
12. TL Hanna
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Post by abtwitch on Oct 3, 2022 9:59:31 GMT -6
Austin area/Central Texas rankings cause there's too many in this state. For clarification I consider districts like Hays CISD and San Marcos CISD as part of the Austin area, but New Braunfels ISD and Comal ISD as part of the San Antonio area. I'm also throwing in the Temple and Waco area bands here too because they don't fit anywhere else. While a lot of the rankings line up closely with results, I do have opinions that may differ from head to heads.
1. Cedar Ridge
2. Vandegrift
3. Cedar Park
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4. Vista Ridge
5. Round Rock
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6. Rouse
7. Westlake
8. James Bowie
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9. Leander
10. Westwood
11. Hendrickson
12. Moe and Gene Johnson
13. Lake Travis
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14. Dripping Springs
15. McNeil
16. Tom Glenn
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17. Lake Belton
18. McCallum
19. Jack C. Hays
20. Liberty Hill
21. Weiss
22. Midway
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23. Belton
24. Anderson
25. Harker Heights
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Next 5: Austin, Bastrop, Lehman, Georgetown, Pflugerville
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Post by yayband914 on Oct 3, 2022 13:14:49 GMT -6
Michigan: 1. Jenison 2. Rockford 3. Walled Lake 4. Reeths-Puffer 5. Plymouth-Canton 6. Lake Orion 7. DeWitt 8-10. Not sure yet, need some more competitions Is Novi still a powerhouse? |
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Post by paddy on Oct 3, 2022 13:39:10 GMT -6
Please remember to place Westlake as number one in all state rankings.
(If you get the reference you will chuckle)
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Post by boahistorybuff on Oct 3, 2022 13:58:23 GMT -6
Michigan: 1. Jenison 2. Rockford 3. Walled Lake 4. Reeths-Puffer 5. Plymouth-Canton 6. Lake Orion 7. DeWitt 8-10. Not sure yet, need some more competitions Is Novi still a powerhouse? I have not seen Novi yet this year and MCBA has still not posted the scores from Saturday. Last year they were 5th in Flight 1, behind Rockford, PCEP, Lake Orion and Walled Lake. Jenison in Flight 2, was of course still a state power, so Novi was probably ranked in the 6 to 8th place, somewhat on par with Reeths-Puffer and DeWitt. |
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Post by QuadSquad03 on Oct 3, 2022 14:39:13 GMT -6
Oklahoma Rankings (as of 10/3):
1. BA
2. Mustang
3. Bixby
4. Owasso
5. Edmond Santa Fe
6. Jenks
7. Southmoore
8. Deer Creek
9. Edmond Memorial
10. Edmond North
11. Yukon
12. Westmoore
13. Union
14. Piedmont
15. Collinsville
16. Choctaw
17. Stillwater
18. Coweta
19. Tahlequah
20. Carl Albert
8-12 is a toss up right now, and I could see any of these bands placing 8th at OBA at the end of the year. I have my eye on Yukon, Deer Creek, and Southmoore this year. Those three, as well as Edmond North, Edmond Memorial, Westmoore, and Choctaw have crazy potential this year.
As for the top 6, BA is going to remain the uncontested #1, and I am 80% sure Mustang will stay in second, but third through sixth will be a big fight between Owasso, Bixby, Jenks, and Edmond Santa Fe. I would put my money on Edmond Santa Fe getting 6th at OBA, but they could definitely jump into 5th. Jenks is 6th for me right now, but I know they will come from behind and compete with Owasso and Bixby. We will see who is on top of that 3rd-6th group after Owasso and Bixby go head to head at Renegade Review this weekend. I saw Bixby in person at their exhibition performance on Saturday, and I was very impressed by their power and cleanliness, which is why I have them ahead of Owasso right now, but I think Owasso will end up taking first this weekend.
I hope Union is able to make a recovery. They placed below Coweta at the Mustang Invitational, which would put them in 18th on this list, but I want to believe it was just a bad run. The recaps aren't out, so I can't say for sure if they did better in prelims. Their design this year is very Union, and it has a lot of potential, but I don't know that we can expect the Union we knew a few years ago. At least not this year.
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Post by TXHillCountryBands on Oct 3, 2022 16:45:34 GMT -6
Austin area/Central Texas rankings cause there's too many in this state. For clarification I consider districts like Hays CISD and San Marcos CISD as part of the Austin area, but New Braunfels ISD and Comal ISD as part of the San Antonio area. I'm also throwing in the Temple and Waco area bands here too because they don't fit anywhere else. While a lot of the rankings line up closely with results, I do have opinions that may differ from head to heads. 1. Cedar Ridge 2. Vandegrift 3. Cedar Park ------------------------- 4. Vista Ridge 5. Round Rock ------------------------- 6. Rouse 7. Westlake 8. James Bowie ------------------------- 9. Leander 10. Westwood 11. Hendrickson 12. Moe and Gene Johnson 13. Lake Travis ------------------------- 14. Dripping Springs 15. McNeil 16. Tom Glenn ------------------------- 17. Lake Belton 18. McCallum 19. Jack C. Hays 20. Liberty Hill 21. Weiss 22. Midway ------------------------- 23. Belton 24. Anderson 25. Harker Heights ------------------------- Next 5: Austin, Bastrop, Lehman, Georgetown, Pflugerville 1: Vandy 2 Cedar Ridge and Cedar Park 4:VR ……. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2022 16:51:14 GMT -6
Since you have to agree that this is completely subjective... these bands do not even compete in the same circuits often... being in the same state is sometimes the only commonality... i would say for TN.....
1 Dobyns Bennett (Kingsport)
2 Franklin (Nashville Area)
3 Munford (Munford is North East of Memphis)
4 Bartlett (Memphis Area)
5 Arlington (Memphis Area)
6 Siegel (Murfreesboro)
7 Columbia Central (Columbia)
8 Mt Juliet (Nashville Area)
9 McGavock (Nashville)
10 Bearden (Knoxville)
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Post by dbdbdb on Oct 3, 2022 17:57:00 GMT -6
Since you have to agree that this is completely subjective... these bands do not even compete in the same circuits often... being in the same state is sometimes the only commonality... i would say for TN..... 1 Dobyns Bennett (Kingsport)
2 Franklin (Nashville Area)
3 Munford (Munford is North East of Memphis)
4 Bartlett (Memphis Area)
5 Arlington (Memphis Area)
6 Siegel (Murfreesboro)
7 Columbia Central (Columbia)
8 Mt Juliet (Nashville Area)
9 McGavock (Nashville)
10 Bearden (Knoxville)Tennessee is tough! It would be amazing if there was a true state championship like other states. I like your list - especially DB on top of course ☺️ I would have absolutely no way to rank the others beyond that I agree with Franklin in 2nd based on their performance last year. A few others to add: Hardin Valley had a good showing at ETSU last year. Ravenwood finished well at Clarksville this year. Another band that seems to be getting better every year is Elizabethton’s Betsy Band. They had a really neat show and finished well last year at WCU. |
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Post by statechamp1239 on Oct 3, 2022 18:15:04 GMT -6
New Jersey - 10/1: (top 20)
1. Westfield
2. Passaic
3. John P. Stevens
4. Hillsborough
5. South Brunswick
6. Brick Memorial
7. Southern Regional
8. Egg Harbor Township
9. West Orange
10. Edison
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11. Pequannock Township
12. Roxbury
13. Allentown
14. Jackson Liberty
15. Clearview Regional
16. Verona
17. Monroe Township
18. Montgomery
19. Eastern Regional
20. Ridgewood
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Post by ilikeguard on Oct 3, 2022 20:14:01 GMT -6
Since you have to agree that this is completely subjective... these bands do not even compete in the same circuits often... being in the same state is sometimes the only commonality... i would say for TN..... 1 Dobyns Bennett (Kingsport)
2 Franklin (Nashville Area)
3 Munford (Munford is North East of Memphis)
4 Bartlett (Memphis Area)
5 Arlington (Memphis Area)
6 Siegel (Murfreesboro)
7 Columbia Central (Columbia)
8 Mt Juliet (Nashville Area)
9 McGavock (Nashville)
10 Bearden (Knoxville)The things I would do to see Munford compete in BOA! I went to elementary school there for a while and I'd love to cheer and brag on them. |
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Post by Marching Observer on Oct 3, 2022 22:27:49 GMT -6
I guess I'll take the onus of doing Indiana. As with all rankings, for fun and simply my opinion. I have not had a chance to see ALL of these groups yet, so have to make some assumptions, but it's a start....as of 10/3/22....probably.... (shrugs)
1. Carmel
2. Avon
3. Fishers
4. Brownsburg
5. Homestead
6. Goshen
7. Center Grove
8. Castle
9. Carroll
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11. Columbus Bands
12. MPLT
13. Floyd Central
14. Penn
15. Concord
16. Jasper
17. Noblesville
18. Greenfield-Central
19. Greenwood
20. Evansville North
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Post by nomorehoney on Oct 4, 2022 8:53:07 GMT -6
I guess I'll take the onus of doing Indiana. As with all rankings, for fun and simply my opinion. I have not had a chance to see ALL of these groups yet, so have to make some assumptions, but it's a start....as of 10/3/22....probably.... (shrugs) 1. Carmel 2. Avon 3. Fishers 4. Brownsburg 5. Homestead 6. Goshen 7. Center Grove 8. Castle 9. Carroll 10. Westfield ------------------------- 11. Columbus Bands 12. MPLT 13. Floyd Central 14. Penn 15. Concord 16. Jasper 17. Noblesville 18. Greenfield-Central 19. Greenwood 20. Evansville North Has Castle not been doing well since Clarksville? |
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Post by thewho on Oct 4, 2022 9:06:26 GMT -6
I guess I'll take the onus of doing Indiana. As with all rankings, for fun and simply my opinion. I have not had a chance to see ALL of these groups yet, so have to make some assumptions, but it's a start....as of 10/3/22....probably.... (shrugs) 1. Carmel 2. Avon 3. Fishers 4. Brownsburg 5. Homestead 6. Goshen 7. Center Grove 8. Castle 9. Carroll 10. Westfield ------------------------- 11. Columbus Bands 12. MPLT 13. Floyd Central 14. Penn 15. Concord 16. Jasper 17. Noblesville 18. Greenfield-Central 19. Greenwood 20. Evansville North Has Castle not been doing well since Clarksville? Castle hasn't performed in any significant competition since Clarksville. Keep in mind this is his opinion gauging bands where they are AS OF NOW. This will probably look way different by the end of the season. |
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Post by riot on Oct 4, 2022 9:18:16 GMT -6
Has Castle not been doing well since Clarksville? Castle hasn't performed in any significant competition since Clarksville. Keep in mind this is his opinion gauging bands where they are AS OF NOW. This will probably look way different by the end of the season. Castle had a local fundraiser event Sept 24 and a rare non-competition weekend Oct 1. They'll be at the ISSMA invitational at Jasper, IN this coming weekend. |
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Post by nomorehoney on Oct 4, 2022 9:55:36 GMT -6
Has Castle not been doing well since Clarksville? Castle hasn't performed in any significant competition since Clarksville. Keep in mind this is his opinion gauging bands where they are AS OF NOW. This will probably look way different by the end of the season. I see, thanks |
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Post by 78haworth on Oct 4, 2022 11:43:55 GMT -6
Since you have to agree that this is completely subjective... these bands do not even compete in the same circuits often... being in the same state is sometimes the only commonality... i would say for TN..... 1 Dobyns Bennett (Kingsport)
2 Franklin (Nashville Area)
3 Munford (Munford is North East of Memphis)
4 Bartlett (Memphis Area)
5 Arlington (Memphis Area)
6 Siegel (Murfreesboro)
7 Columbia Central (Columbia)
8 Mt Juliet (Nashville Area)
9 McGavock (Nashville)
10 Bearden (Knoxville)Tennessee is tough! It would be amazing if there was a true state championship like other states. I like your list - especially DB on top of course ☺️ I would have absolutely no way to rank the others beyond that I agree with Franklin in 2nd based on their performance last year. A few others to add: Hardin Valley had a good showing at ETSU last year. Ravenwood finished well at Clarksville this year. Another band that seems to be getting better every year is Elizabethton’s Betsy Band. They had a really neat show and finished well last year at WCU. Sad to say, but McGavock and John Overton are not competing this year. Siegel seems to be struggling but they are always ready for COC! Mt Juliet is doing quite well and should be up around 5th or so in my opinion. |
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Post by mk72 on Oct 4, 2022 13:49:49 GMT -6
Tennessee is tough! It would be amazing if there was a true state championship like other states. I like your list - especially DB on top of course ☺️ I would have absolutely no way to rank the others beyond that I agree with Franklin in 2nd based on their performance last year. A few others to add: Hardin Valley had a good showing at ETSU last year. Ravenwood finished well at Clarksville this year. Another band that seems to be getting better every year is Elizabethton’s Betsy Band. They had a really neat show and finished well last year at WCU. Sad to say, but McGavock and John Overton are not competing this year. Siegel seems to be struggling but they are always ready for COC! Mt Juliet is doing quite well and should be up around 5th or so in my opinion. After seeing Ravenwood live at Clarksville and at Franklin's own competition this past weekend, I'm very inclined to say they are at a strong 3rd right now. I'm not sure if there were any staff changes or inside things that happened, but they are on FIRE this year. If I remember correctly, they're going to GN this year, and I have high high hopes for them:) Mt. Juliet is also doing great! They just came out of a fantastic winter guard season and are carrying that momentum forward! I have them above Siegel right now. |
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Post by Marching Observer on Oct 4, 2022 14:06:43 GMT -6
Correct on why I had some bands lower than what one might expect for some groups. Lack of good competitive data makes it tricky or if they don't compete against anyone at a contest really. Penn was especially tricky because they were close to Goshen at Concord but I haven't seen them and they haven't competed since. Even though their schedule says they were supposed to go to several shows this year, they haven't for some reason. Which if anyone knows why they haven't really been following their posted calendar schedule, that'd be great to know.
When it came to putting Class B groups in, well, the Avon Invitational results really show just how much of a cluster it is right now lol! Really going to be interesting who pulls away in that class this year.
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