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Post by mrsaxophone on Apr 19, 2023 10:04:03 GMT -6
This can be used for anything Ohio in 2023
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Post by lostinthebands on Apr 24, 2023 20:20:56 GMT -6
Curious if anyone wants to rank some of the Ohio bands and figure out where they line up against another. Obviously Mason and Centerville (and both Lakota’s) are up there, but what does it look like from there on?
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Post by N.E. Brigand on May 25, 2023 23:08:28 GMT -6
Curious if anyone wants to rank some of the Ohio bands and figure out where they line up against another. Obviously Mason and Centerville (and both Lakotas) are up there, but what does it look like from there on? A few Ohio lists were put forward last year in the "Rankings by State 2022" thread, and while it may be too early to start a similar 2023 thread (what would have changed since then?), I would say that almost all contenders for an Ohio top ten are from the Dayton and Cincinnati areas: besides the four you mention, that would certainly include Miamisburg (first out of Grand Nationals semifinals two years running), Kettering Fairmont, and Beavercreek, with the next 10-15 (which in terms of BOA scores extends down into the lower 70s) including in some order last year's Class A champion Archbishop Alter, Milford, Kings, Forest Hills, West Clermont, Bellbrook, Fairfield, and, at least last year, Finneytown. Only one Columbus area band, Grove City, seems like a lock for this top ten, and that's based almost entirely on their musical talents, which I think are surpassed in Ohio only by Mason (they even beat Carmel in one performance caption the last time they appeared in BOA four years ago). But other central Ohio bands worthy of the next rank include two Dublins, two or three Hilliards, one of the Olentangys, tiny Berne Union, and knocking on the door last year was Licking Heights. There was one other greater Columbus group that was firmly on this list through 2021: Pickerington North, but they gave up competing after that. In 2022, the only band not from those two areas to make my top twenty-five was Amherst Steele, from northeast Ohio where a few other bands (like Norton) might make this list in some years -- but then, so might yet more bands from the central or southwest parts of the state. If you want to get a sense of Ohio's band scene beyond BOA and if you're free to spend a whole day in Columbus on Saturday, October 14, I strongly recommend attending the Buckeye Invitational, hosted by Ohio State University: approximately 30 competition bands, another 10 or so bands in exhibition, and a performance by OSU's band to close out the day.
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Post by ohioguy2 on Jul 10, 2023 8:50:15 GMT -6
Curious if anyone wants to rank some of the Ohio bands and figure out where they line up against another. Obviously Mason and Centerville (and both Lakotas) are up there, but what does it look like from there on? A few Ohio lists were put forward last year in the "Rankings by State 2022" thread, and while it may be too early to start a similar 2023 thread (what would have changed since then?), I would say that almost all contenders for an Ohio top ten are from the Dayton and Cincinnati areas: besides the four you mention, that would certainly include Miamisburg (first out of Grand Nationals semifinals two years running), Kettering Fairmont, and Beavercreek, with the next 10-15 (which in terms of BOA scores extends down into the lower 70s) including in some order last year's Class A champion Archbishop Alter, Milford, Kings, Forest Hills, West Clermont, Bellbrook, Fairfield, and, at least last year, Finneytown. Only one Columbus area band, Grove City, seems like a lock for this top ten, and that's based almost entirely on their musical talents, which I think are surpassed in Ohio only by Mason (they even beat Carmel in one performance caption the last time they appeared in BOA four years ago). But other central Ohio bands worthy of the next rank include two Dublins, two or three Hilliards, one of the Olentangys, tiny Berne Union, and knocking on the door last year was Licking Heights. There was one other greater Columbus group that was firmly on this list through 2021: Pickerington North, but they gave up competing after that. In 2022, the only band not from those two areas to make my top twenty-five was Amherst Steele, from northeast Ohio where a few other bands (like Norton) might make this list in some years -- but then, so might yet more bands from the central or southwest parts of the state. If you want to get a sense of Ohio's band scene beyond BOA and if you're free to spend a whole day in Columbus on Saturday, October 14, I strongly recommend attending the Buckeye Invitational, hosted by Ohio State University: approximately 30 competition bands, another 10 or so bands in exhibition, and a performance by OSU's band to close out the day. This is a very good list. I'll say the only real noticeable omission is Worthington Kilbourne. They've really upped their design and performance in the past few years and deserve mention among the better bands in the state, especially for being a smaller school. They had a very solid 6th place finish at Obetz last year, ahead of several of the bands you listed.
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Jul 10, 2023 22:12:08 GMT -6
This is a very good list. I'll say the only real noticeable omission is Worthington Kilbourne. They've really upped their design and performance in the past few years and deserve mention among the better bands in the state, especially for being a smaller school. They had a very solid 6th place finish at Obetz last year, ahead of several of the bands you listed. Thanks. And that's fair. I really liked Kilbourne the first time I think I saw them -- at OMEA state finals in 2013 -- and I liked a number of their shows since then, but as they've grown more sophisticated, I have found their shows less and less enjoyable: to me they've grown somewhat slick and pretentious. (That's painting with a very broad brush, and I hope at some point to explicate that more fully.) But I did think they were more or less tied (for second) with Dublin Jerome at the last regular season OMEA show last year (the judges put Jerome slightly ahead -- while at a different show earlier that day the judges put Jerome a little behind Licking Heights; coincidentally I first saw Jerome at OMEA state finals in 2013 -- when I did not see Licking Heights but I did have a nice conversation with Licking Heights's director, who as it happened was the chief judge at that show last year where Jerome edged out Kilbourne for second), and that would indeed put them in contention for the state's top 25.
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Post by aiden on Jul 29, 2023 18:36:47 GMT -6
Another band in the same district is Thomas Worthington HS and they have a pretty average marching band that I'm pretty sure only does OMEA unlike Worthington Kilbourne which does both OMEA and BOA
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Post by aiden on Aug 2, 2023 23:15:53 GMT -6
So we all know SW Ohio has some good bands, but what are your opinions on the ones that aren't as well known, like Beavercreek, and Kettering Fairmont
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Post by boahistorybuff on Aug 3, 2023 7:55:14 GMT -6
Well in short, they are really very good. Beavercreek has been around a very long time. As is typical with programs that have been around so long, they have certainly had their ups and down. Both Beavercreek and Kettering Fairmont were really strong last year. In this day and age, when there are so many bands competing and so many that are performing at extremely high levels, sometimes bands that may be more in the middle of the pack so to speak can get lost in the shuffle. I hope from this thread that we can hear a little more about the lesser known SW Ohio bands.
When looking at the greater Dayton area and north Cincinnati suburbs, these are all the bands that have made at least one appearance in GN Finals, going all the way back to 1982; Carroll, Northmont, Bellbrook, Centerville and William Mason. Not too shabby.
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Post by aiden on Aug 3, 2023 8:12:56 GMT -6
Beavercreek has double tonguing in their brass feature this year
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Post by Allohak on Aug 3, 2023 18:54:48 GMT -6
Well in short, they are really very good. Beavercreek has been around a very long time. As is typical with programs that have been around so long, they have certainly had their ups and down. Both Beavercreek and Kettering Fairmont were really strong last year. In this day and age, when there are so many bands competing and so many that are performing at extremely high levels, sometimes bands that may be more in the middle of the pack so to speak can get lost in the shuffle. I hope from this thread that we can hear a little more about the lesser known SW Ohio bands. When looking at the greater Dayton area and north Cincinnati suburbs, these are all the bands that have made at least one appearance in GN Finals, going all the way back to 1982; Carroll, Northmont, Bellbrook, Centerville and William Mason. Not too shabby. If you want a list of semifinalists from the 513 amd 937 area codes, it's pretty long. We add...Alter, Carlisle, Miamisburg, Fairborn, Lakota East, Lakota West, Forest Hills, Kings, La Salle, Milford, and Milton-Union There are a lot states which would love to have as strong a roster of programs as SW OH 💪 It certainly doesn't hurt to have one of the circuits which most closely resembles BOA sheets (MSBA) and easy access to Indy so frequent trips to GN isn't as much of a huge cost as it is for many
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Post by aiden on Aug 3, 2023 19:48:44 GMT -6
Beavercreek has been discussing about a possible grand nationals trip in 2024 or 2025 as well
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Post by hewhowaits on Aug 4, 2023 5:27:25 GMT -6
Beavercreek has been discussing about a possible grand nationals trip in 2024 or 2025 as well There are some board regulars whose response will be "more Ohio bands at GN? Ugh!" but 'Creek would be a welcome addition to the mix.
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Post by aiden on Aug 4, 2023 7:22:44 GMT -6
I honestly wonder how well Beavercreek would do at Grand nationals
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Post by yayband914 on Aug 4, 2023 10:35:07 GMT -6
I honestly wonder how well Beavercreek would do at Grand nationals Some years it’s really easy for AAA bands to make semifinals given that there are usually only around 8-12 a year. I think they could be a shoe in for semifinals given the right panel.
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Post by aiden on Aug 4, 2023 18:37:44 GMT -6
If Beavercreek makes semis I'd legitimately be surprised
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Aug 10, 2023 22:34:52 GMT -6
So we all know SW Ohio has some good bands, but what are your opinions on the ones that aren't as well known, like Beavercreek, and Kettering Fairmont I really liked Springboro's musical selections in 2015. Stebbins' director annoyed me by holding a meeting that blocked my car in 2014, but I did get to hear him surprise his students with the news they'd be attending Grand Nationals. Piqua did the music of "Newsies" in 1992 or 1993, and I liked that show more the second time I saw it than the first time. Are those the opinions you were seeking?
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Post by datbandman01482 on Aug 11, 2023 21:25:34 GMT -6
All the music programs in the area are great
not just band but all of the performing arts
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Post by aiden on Aug 19, 2023 23:33:49 GMT -6
This is the thread where you can put your opinions on which Ohio high school marching bands are the best
p.s make sure to add a reason why you chose those bands
In my opinion the best high school marching bands in Ohio are:
William Mason: I don't really have to give an explanation on why I chose them because they make grand national finals yearly
Centerville: the OG Ohio powerhouse that sounds amazing, and is a consistent finalist at BOA regionals and super regionals
Archbishop Alter: they may be small in size, but they sure do pack a punch, and they won Class A champion in 2022, and have made semifinals many times as well
Miamisburg: I think this explains itself as they're an outstanding program that I honestly think is slightly underrated at Grand Nats
Honorable mention
Beavercreek: they're doing really great this year so far and the double tonguing is a welcome change to their brass feature even though the articulation could be a bit better
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Aug 19, 2023 23:47:52 GMT -6
As someone very interested in Ohio bands, I wonder if we really need three threads in this subforum, all active in the past month, about that subject. In addition to this one, which had a reply just three weeks ago (prior to me replying right now), there is: What's your opinion on SW Ohio bands (most recent reply was nine days ago) And: Which bands in Ohio are the best in your opinion? (started about 15 minutes ago) Could the other two threads be merged into this one?
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Aug 19, 2023 23:53:07 GMT -6
Massillon Washington. Because of the tiger. And the tubas. But mostly the tiger.
"Really? You got somebody on the organ now?"
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Post by hewhowaits on Aug 20, 2023 6:27:23 GMT -6
As someone very interested in Ohio bands, I wonder if we really need three threads in this subforum, all active in the past month, about that subject. In addition to this one, which had a reply just three weeks ago (prior to me replying right now), there is: What's your opinion on SW Ohio bands (most recent reply was nine days ago) And: Which bands in Ohio are the best in your opinion? (started about 15 minutes ago) Could the other two threads be merged into this one? So let it be written, so let it be done.
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Post by aiden on Aug 20, 2023 10:30:26 GMT -6
As someone very interested in Ohio bands, I wonder if we really need three threads in this subforum, all active in the past month, about that subject. In addition to this one, which had a reply just three weeks ago (prior to me replying right now), there is: What's your opinion on SW Ohio bands (most recent reply was nine days ago) And: Which bands in Ohio are the best in your opinion? (started about 15 minutes ago) Could the other two threads be merged into this one? So let it be written, so let it be done. 👍
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Aug 20, 2023 13:10:09 GMT -6
This is the thread where you can put your opinions on which Ohio high school marching bands are the best. P.S.: Make sure to add a reason why you chose those bands. I'm only half joking about Massillon. They do at least five different halftime shows every year, those shows are quite entertaining, and their pregame show (with the tiger) is pretty darn cool. There's a reason they usually go last among the festival bands when they appear at the Buckeye Invitational. Also I believe they are the state's oldest high school marching band.
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Post by aiden on Aug 20, 2023 13:47:42 GMT -6
That's a lot of music to practice
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Post by ohioguy2 on Aug 22, 2023 9:44:55 GMT -6
The schedule for the first two MSBA shows are available on the MSBA website. As is tradition, the first MSBA show of the year is the annual Northmont Premiere. This is always a non-competitive event held with judges on Labor Day weekend. schedules.competitionsuite.com/cbaab2b9-6cba-4fb7-86bc-bcaf917c81f3_logistical.htmBOA bands in attendance include Centerville, Miamisburg, Kettering Fairmont, Bellbrook, and obviously Northmont. Of note, I believe this is Fairmont's first ever appearance at this show. The first competitive show on the MSBA calendar is always at Kings the following week. schedules.competitionsuite.com/ed86de06-6f3c-41d6-8ba5-e7909006c2d6_logistical.htmThis is an absolutely stacked early season show, with Centerville, Lakota East (in their first ever MSBA appearance?), Fairfield, Kettering Fairmont, and Northmont in attendance.
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Post by aiden on Aug 22, 2023 19:32:31 GMT -6
Have any OMEA competition schedules come out yet?
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Aug 22, 2023 23:21:15 GMT -6
Have any OMEA competition schedules come out yet? Not that I've seen, but there's no centralized location showing individual show schedules. (You have to search each band's website, if they even have websites.) That said, usually those aren't final until two weeks out, and the first show isn't until Sep. 9. But for general reference purposes, here's the event schedule in the order listed on OMEA's calendar for the 59 local events and 4 days of state finals: Sep. 9Hilliard Bradley Troy Cloverleaf (Lodi) Licking Heights (Pataskala) Philo (Duncan Falls) - ratings only Sep. 16Louisville Tippecanoe (Tipp City) Pickerington North Cambridge Rock Hill (Ironton) Westerville North Ottawa-Glandorf Norwood (Cincinnati) Sep. 23University of Akron CANCELED Bloom Carroll Wilmington Portsmouth West Zanesville Marion Local (Maria Stein) Logan Elm (Circleville) Perkins (Sandusky) Sep. 30Watkins Memorial (Pataskala) Revere (Richfield) Valley (Lucasville) Avon Lake Hamilton Marietta Grove City Columbus Grove Northwestern (Springfield) Oct. 7Canal Winchester Teays Valley (Ashville) Kettering Fairmont Licking Valley (Newark) Norton Springfield (Holland) Loveland Warren (Vincent) Northwest (McDermott) Oct. 14Athens (The Plains) Ohio State University (Columbus) River View (Warsaw) Maysville (Zanesville) Meadowbrook (Byesville) Piqua Versailles Copley Dawson-Bryant (Coal Grove) Oct. 21Newark Nelsonville-York Tri-Valley (Dresden) New Philadelphia Maumee Lancaster Tecumseh (New Carlisle) Turpin (Cincinnati) Brunswick Thomas Worthington Ironton State Marching Band Finals (four days)Oct. 28 -- Hilliard Darby Oct. 29 -- Piqua Nov. 4 -- Medina Nov. 5 -- Piqua There's a typo on the OMEA calendar at the moment: Versailles is listed twice on Oct. 14, but clicking through reveals the second entry is actually Dawson-Bryant. Last month, Swanton was on the schedule, but on an early date as opposed to the usual last weekend of the regular season. Now it's gone altogether. Swanton had stopped competing in the past two years, and I understand they have a new director. Maybe they did a cost analysis and decided it wasn't worthwhile. Edited to note the Akron show was canceled.
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Post by aiden on Aug 25, 2023 14:23:38 GMT -6
Does anyone know the enrollment numbers of the larger high schools here in Ohio
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Post by yayband914 on Aug 25, 2023 14:31:07 GMT -6
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Aug 25, 2023 16:59:00 GMT -6
I've never seen a halftime show performed with an audible metronome throughout before. That seems like a terrible idea.
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