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Post by hewhowaits on Sept 12, 2024 7:41:16 GMT -6
Saturday, September 14 MSBA Events
Lakota West Invitational 6:15 -Indian Hill (A) 6:30 - Martha Layne Collins (AA) 6:45 - Simon Kenton (AA) Break - plenty of time for dinner 8:00 - Walter E. Stebbins (AAAA) 8:15 - Westerville South (AAAA) 8:30 - Finneytown (AAAA) 8:45 - Kings (AAAA) 9:00 - West Clermont (AAAAA) 9:15 - Lakota West (Exhibition) 9:30 - Awards
Taylor Premiere 2:00 - Grant County, KY (A) 2:15 - Switzerland County, IN (A) 2:30 - Madison, IN (A) 2:45 - Highlands, KY (A) Break 3:15 - Mason County, KY (A) 3:30 - Rising Sun, IN (A) 3:45 - Batesville, IN (AA) 4:00 - Shawe Memoria, IN (AA) Break 4:30 - Goshen (AAA) 4:45 - Conner, KY (AAA) 5:00 - South Dearborn, IN (AAA) Dinner Break 6:15 - Hamilton (AAAA) 6:30 - Oak Hills (AAAA) 6:45 - Westerville North (AAAAA) 7:00 - Campbell County, KY (AAAAA) 7:15 - Taylor (Exhibition) 7:45 - Awards
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Post by lostinthebands on Sept 12, 2024 9:28:53 GMT -6
Two good competitions for MSBA! A few of these groups will be heading to Obetz next week, two with champion potential and another fighting to make finals. Should be quite fun to see how each group performs - anyone who sees them in person should pass on their thoughts to the forum!
Campbell County, KY Oak Hills, OH Lakota West, OH
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Post by Allohak on Sept 12, 2024 10:53:48 GMT -6
Two good competitions for MSBA! A few of these groups will be heading to Obetz next week, two with champion potential and another fighting to make finals. Should be quite fun to see how each group performs - anyone who sees them in person should pass on their thoughts to the forum! Campbell County, KY Oak Hills, OH Lakota West, OH And Westerville North
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Post by neop on Sept 14, 2024 13:47:48 GMT -6
Ran into N.E. Brigand at OMEA Hilliard Bradley this afternoon. However, our evening show destinations are different. Time required me to leave the show before awards. Brigand, could you provide the show titles along with the results? I would appreciate it!
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Post by neop on Sept 14, 2024 17:09:03 GMT -6
Update from MSBA Taylor: Campbell County is awesome.
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Post by aiden on Sept 14, 2024 19:46:53 GMT -6
Is there anyone at OMEA Kettering Fairmont to report results?
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Sept 15, 2024 0:25:33 GMT -6
Ran into N.E. Brigand at OMEA Hilliard Bradley this afternoon. However, our evening show destinations are different. Time required me to leave the show before awards. Brigand, could you provide the show titles along with the results? I would appreciate it! Very nice seeing you again (and this time getting to chat a bit)! Here are the announced results and show titles from the two OMEA competitions I attended today. Where not ranked below, bands are in performance order: 48th Hilliard Marching Band Invitational -- Sep. 14, 2024Class C1. Grove City Christian, "If I Only Had a Heart" 2. Westfall, "Heartland" 3. Northeastern, "The Entertainer" Class B1. London, "Rebellion" Class A1. Vandalia Butler, "Wanted" 2. Fairbanks, "Woodland Voices" Class AA1. Grove City, "Danzón" * 2. Worthington Kilbourne, "Typecast" 3. Newark, "Re-Renaissance" * Westland, "All Aboard" Hilliard Davidson, "Hex" (host; ratings only) * Hilliard Darby, "First Train Home" (host; ratings only) * Delaware Hayes, "Girl in Red" Hilliard Bradley, "Waiting on the Sky to Change" (host; ratings only) * No caption awards by class were announced at this event. OverallMusic -- Grove City Visual -- Worthington Kilbourne General Effect -- Grove City & Worthington Kilbourne (tie) Percussion -- Grove City Auxiliary -- Worthington Kilbourne Grand Champion: Grove City*indicates the five bands that qualified for OMEA state finals 28th Annual Logan Elm Marching Band Classic -- Sep. 14, 2024Class C1. Crooksville, "Beyond the Horizon" -- also percussion 2. Nelsonville-York, "Agent 54" 3. Westfall, "Heartland" -- also guard Class B1. Highland, "After the Rain" -- also percussion 2. Portsmouth West, "Pandora's Box" 3. Wellston, "Siren Song" -- also guard Circleville, "Outside the Toy Box" Morgan, "Go Down Gamblin'" Logan Elm, "Charlotte" (host, ratings only) * Class B/C CombinedMusic -- Portsmouth West Visual -- Highland General Effect -- Highland Class B/C Grand Champion: HighlandClass A1. Berne Union, "The Sirens" -- also percussion & guard * 2. Franklin Heights, "Power Trip" * 3. Chillicothe, "The Roaring Twenties" Athens, "The Fall of Troy" Class AA1. Hilliard Darby, "First Train Home" -- also percussion 2. Licking Heights, "En Route" -- also guard * 3. Lancaster, "Memories" Class AA/A CombinedMusic -- Berne Union Visual -- Hilliard Darby General Effect -- Berne Union Class AA/A Grand Champion: Berne Union*indicates the four bands that qualified for OMEA state finals Worthington Kilbourne and Hilliard Darby (in the evening only) apparently were short of the minimum six-minute performance time needed to qualify for state finals. (As I think were Vandalia Butler and Portsmouth West, but I think they didn't earn a Superior rating in the first place.) - - - - - - - - - - I missed the first four bands (Nelsonville-York, Crooksville, Westfall, Circleville) at Logan Elm. I would rank the 26 performances I saw today as follows: 1. Grove City; 2. Worthington Kilbourne; 3. Berne Union; 4. Licking Heights; 5. Hilliard Darby (L); 6. Hillard Davidson; 7. Hilliard Bradley; 8. Hilliard Darby (H) -- I/II cut-off -- 9. Lancaster; 10 Portsmouth West; 11. Delaware Hayes; 12. Logan Elm; 13. Newark; 14. Chillicothe; 15. Highland; 16. Franklin Heights; 17. Vandalia Butler; 18. Westland; 19. Athens; 20. Wellston; 21. London; 22. Grove City Christian -- II/III cut-off -- 23. Fairbanks; 24. Morgan; 25. Westfall; 26. Northeastern. Among the bands who have yet to qualify, I would particularly recommend Portsmouth West, Chillicothe, and Highland as worth seeing.
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Post by neop on Sept 15, 2024 0:42:19 GMT -6
I managed to attend three different shows today, driving over 500 miles to attend them and then head home. My camera is full and my gas tank is empty.
Why? Because I had no other chances to see Worthington Kilbourne, Taylor, or Lakota West this season, and all three were at different shows over a span of 121 miles in southwest Ohio. What can I say, I'm dedicated!
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Sept 15, 2024 1:26:15 GMT -6
Is there anyone at OMEA Kettering Fairmont to report results? The awards presentation for Classes AA and A at that event was posted on Youtube, as follows: Class A1. Piqua -- also percussion & auxiliary * Class AA1. Beavercreek -- also percussion * 2. Springboro -- also auxiliary * 3. Middletown Combined A/AAGeneral Effect -- Beavercreek Visual -- Beavercreek Music -- Beavercreek Grand Champion: Beavercreek *indicates the three bands which qualified for state finals
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Sept 15, 2024 1:56:22 GMT -6
I see that at least five bands qualified for state finals at Louisville, with a very narrow margin at the top.
Looking ahead a couple weeks, I see a newly competing band at Springfield.
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Post by lostinthebands on Sept 15, 2024 13:41:17 GMT -6
I managed to attend three different shows today, driving over 500 miles to attend them and then head home. My camera is full and my gas tank is empty. Why? Because I had no other chances to see Worthington Kilbourne, Taylor, or Lakota West this season, and all three were at different shows over a span of 121 miles in southwest Ohio. What can I say, I'm dedicated! Thats absolutely insane! Hope the bands were worth the long trip. Dedication, indeed!
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Post by neop on Sept 15, 2024 15:48:40 GMT -6
I managed to attend three different shows today, driving over 500 miles to attend them and then head home. My camera is full and my gas tank is empty. Why? Because I had no other chances to see Worthington Kilbourne, Taylor, or Lakota West this season, and all three were at different shows over a span of 121 miles in southwest Ohio. What can I say, I'm dedicated! Thats absolutely insane! Hope the bands were worth the long trip. Dedication, indeed! Definitely. My big takeaway: look out for Lakota West this season
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Post by cheesemcdiddlesworth on Sept 15, 2024 17:03:28 GMT -6
Thats absolutely insane! Hope the bands were worth the long trip. Dedication, indeed! Definitely. My big takeaway: look out for Lakota West this season Having seen LW and CC in the same day you have a pretty good perspective on obetz this weekend. Curious on your obetz picks. Both of these programs have been ripping these past years. Can't wait to finally see them this weekend. It's a great lineup.
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Post by neop on Sept 15, 2024 17:17:00 GMT -6
Definitely. My big takeaway: look out for Lakota West this season Having seen LW and CC in the same day you have a pretty good perspective on obetz this weekend. Curious on your obetz picks. Both of these programs have been ripping these past years. Can't wait to finally see them this weekend. It's a great lineup. Both shows are so fun in such different ways. My favorite of the two was CC, as the "Flip Out" props, uniforms, and repertoire work so well, but "A Lakota Western" totally pulls off the theme with just the right amount of cheese. I'd currently put Lakota West in front, but it is extremely close. A week is a lot of time, though, so who knows? Come the end of the season, I'd expect Lakota West to be further out in front, as I thought they had more room to grow. Having not seen the closer for either show, though, I could be wrong. P.S. Campbell County definitely wins the crowd support game. If you know, you know.
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Post by ccbop on Sept 15, 2024 17:35:21 GMT -6
Thats absolutely insane! Hope the bands were worth the long trip. Dedication, indeed! Definitely. My big takeaway: look out for Lakota West this season I would like to say that for Obetz Lakota probably does probably have more room to grow, but Campbell has an extremely strong closer both visually, musically, and GE wise that by time for GN will really tie everything together.
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Post by neop on Sept 15, 2024 17:41:18 GMT -6
Definitely. My big takeaway: look out for Lakota West this season I would like to say that for Obetz Lakota probably does probably have more room to grow, but Campbell has an extremely strong closer both visually, musically, and GE wise that by time for GN will really tie everything together. Don't get me wrong, they were both by far the very best bands I saw yesterday. It was very close.
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Post by ccbop on Sept 15, 2024 18:29:14 GMT -6
Don't get me wrong, they were both by far the very best bands I saw yesterday. It was very close. I get it I just have a preference.
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Post by ohioguy2 on Sept 16, 2024 6:08:36 GMT -6
OMEA Cambridge 9/14
Class AA
1. Thomas Worthington 85.9 (I) 2. Perry 80.3 (I)
Class A
1. Tri-Valley 76.7 (II) 2. Zanesville 72.4 (II)
Class B
1. Maysville 77.1 (II) 2. Meadowbrook 74.1 (II) 3. John Glenn 73.0 (II) (I did not see a rating for Cambridge)
Class C
1. Philo 71.3 (II) 2. Shenandoah 68.9 (III) 3. Claymont 67.3 (III) 4. Fort Frye 65.1 (III)
OMEA Hilliard 9/14
Class AA
1. Grove City 86.16 (I) 2. Worthington Kilbourne 85.6 (I) 3. Newark 79.79 (I) 4. Delaware Hayes 78.2 (II) 5. Westland 75.7 (II) Ex. Hilliard Bradley, Darby, and Davidson (All Is)
Class A
1. Vandalia-Butler 76.49 (II) 2. Fairbanks 70.06 (II)
Class B
1. London 69.9 (II)
Class C
1. Grove City Christian 73.15 (II) 2. Westfall 66.56 (III) 3. Northeastern 65.8 (III)
OMEA Kettering 9/14
Class AA
1. Beavercreek 86. 4(I) 2. Springboro 83.7 (I) 3. Middletown 77.04 (II) (I did not see a rating for Fairmont, I assume they got a I)
Class A
1. Piqua 78.74 (I)
Class B
1. Madeira 75.8 (II) 2. Versailles 74.76 (II) 3. Kalida 74.3 (II) 4. Northwestern 68.46 (III) 5. Clinton-Massie 67.04 (III) 6. St. John's Jesuit 65.9 (III) 7. Tecumseh 65.46 (III)
Class C
1. Marion Local 72.3 (II) 2. Brookville 68.7 (III) 3. Covington 67.7 (III)
OMEA Logan Elm 9/14
Class AA
1. Hilliard Darby 84.69 (I) 2. Licking Heights 84.56 (I) 3. Lancaster 79.06 (II)
Class A
1. Berne Union 86.15 (I) 2. Franklin Heights 80.2 (I) 3. Chillicothe 78.22 (II) 4. Athens 74.42 (II)
Class B
1. Highland 76.3 (II) 2. Portsmouth West 75.5 (II) 3. Wellston 74.74 (II) 4. Morgan 71.87 (II) 5. Circleville 70.86 (II) Ex. Logan Elm (I)
Class C
1. Crooksville 74.38 (II) 2. Nelsonville-York 69.86 (II) 3. Westfall 66.08 (III)
OMEA Louisville 9/14
Class AA
1. Brunswick 87.7 (I) 2. Hoover 87.52 (I) 3. Nordonia 85.2 (I) 4. Dublin Scioto 85.1 (I)
Class A
1. Revere 83.58 (I) 2. Crestwood 82.84 (I) 3. Van Buren 80.38 (II) 4. Avon Lake 78.7 (II) Ex. Louisville (I)
Class B
1. St. Clairsville 80.2 (I) 2. Cloverleaf 78.2 (II) 3. Buckeye 76.0 (II)
Class C
1. Crestview 65.7 (III)
OMEA Norwood 9/14
Class AA
1. Forest Hills 82.0 (I)
Class A
1. Ross 75.8 (II)
Class B
1. Carlisle 69.7 (III) Ex. Norwood (III)
Class C
1. Lynchburg-Clay 62.5 (III)
OMEA Rock Hill 9/14
Class A
1. South Point 78.472 (II) 2. Dawson-Bryant 73.456 (II) 3. Point Pleasant 70.672 (II) 4. Chesapeake 70.188 (II)
Class B
1. Minford 77.052 (II) 2. Gallia Academy 75.876 (II) Ex. Rock Hill (II)
Class C
1. Southastern 75.616 (II) 2. Green 65.354 (III) 3. Symmes Valley 47.78 (IV)
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Sept 16, 2024 11:06:42 GMT -6
OMEA Kettering 9/14 (I did not see a rating for Fairmont, I assume they got a I) If they did, it wasn't announced during the AA/A awards ceremony (which someone posted on Youtube). Perhaps they have no plans to attend OMEA state finals and asked for comments only? Or perhaps their show was too short? Although in that case, you'd think they'd still be indicated as receiving a Superior. You note that Worthington Kilbourne at Hilliard and Hilliard Darby at Logan Elm both received Superior ratings, but at the shows -- in keeping with what you shared about the rules last week -- they were not announced as qualifying for state. At Hilliard, it was pretty obvious that that Kilbourne was under time. Darby's evening performance seemed stronger than their afternoon performance, but some Darby parents pointed out to me the reason that they didn't qualify in the Logan Elm performance. Darby has some preshow business in which the band does some movement to the sounds of a train station. In the afternoon show, the drum major salute -- which as you know triggers the "you may take the field" announcement and the start of judging -- happened on the field during that preshow business. In the evening show, the salute happened from the podium after the preshow, and that put them just under six minutes of judged performance.
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Post by neop on Sept 16, 2024 14:29:05 GMT -6
3. Symmes Valley 47.78 (IV) Whoa, was there a penalty involved here?
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Post by ohioguy2 on Sept 16, 2024 14:42:13 GMT -6
3. Symmes Valley 47.78 (IV) Whoa, was there a penalty involved here? There was not.
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Post by neop on Sept 16, 2024 15:10:58 GMT -6
Taylor Premiere2:30 - Madison, IN (A) I also wanted to note that this turned out to be the Madison from Middletown, Ohio
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Sept 16, 2024 15:36:17 GMT -6
3. Symmes Valley 47.78 (IV) Whoa, was there a penalty involved here? With that score, it seems likely the band nearly got a V. I hope they can overcome whatever challenges brought them to this pass. Symmes Valley appears to have been a competition band for many years, and I believe they've qualified for OMEA state finals seven times, but not since 1996. OMEA Cambridge 9/14 ... Class A1. Tri-Valley 76.7 (II) ... Class B1. Maysville 77.1 (II) ... I think it's been a while since Maysville outscored Tri-Valley. I hope they're both doing something quirky this year. This score bodes well for Maysville's chances not only of making it to state finals -- which only happens about two-thirds of the time -- but of earning a Superior there, which I don't think they've ever done. The judges and I were in near agreement about most scores at this event, but I'm noting this one in particular because I told neop after they performed that I thought they'd be scored a 77. They only plan to attend one more OMEA competition this year (in two weeks at Grove City). A state qualification would be all but assured if they were attending a local event in October, but I'm not sure they can clean this show sufficiently in that amount of time. Here's hoping. That's three points better than I had scored them a week earlier -- which would be excellent improvement -- but six tenths lower than the judges had scored them on that date, which is not a promising trend to get the band to state finals. Either Brunswick and Hoover are very good this year, or we have some north coast scoring inflation. Those are the two highest scores you list. 1. Glad to see Revere scoring so well early in their second year under Tom Chiera. 2. What a good early score for Crestwood. 3. That's a surprisingly low showing for Van Buren compared to past years. 4. But with that score, Van Buren obviously is on the cusp and sure to qualify soon. 5. Here we seen another case of a band (Van Buren) outscoring another (St. Clairsville), but it's the latter not the former that gets (at least) three judges to find it Superior and thus qualifies. A surprisingly low score for them. But I want to live in a world where Crestwood and Forest Hills are performing at comparable levels! I don't believe Southeastern has ever qualified for state finals before. If this score isn't a fluke, they could certainly do it. Their mailing address is Chillicothe, although the location is more than five miles outside of the town proper. Chillicothe H.S. surely will qualify (imagine writing that five years ago!), and it would be fun to see them both in finals. Obviously it's a long shot for both of them with those scores, but in light of what they've been going through, I'm pulling for these two bands to qualify by season's end.
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Post by neop on Sept 16, 2024 16:54:51 GMT -6
Class C... 3. [Springfield] Northeastern 65.8 (III) ... OMEA Hillard 9/14... Class B... 4. [Springfield] Northwestern 68.46 (III) Obviously it's a long shot for both of them with those scores, but in light of what they've been going through, I'm pulling for these two bands to qualify by season's end. For what it's worth, Northwestern has managed to pull out a state qualification every year since 2015. They're scoring about 3 points under what they were at this point last season, which isn't too far outside of what I would consider to be the OMEA scoring "margin of error" between judging panels. Whoa, was there a penalty involved here? With that score, it seems likely the band nearly got a V. I hope they can overcome whatever challenges brought them to this pass. Symmes Valley appears to have been a competition band for many years, and I believe they've qualified for OMEA state finals seven times, but not since 1996. I was so surprised because that is 21 points below their score at this time last year. They even managed a high 74 during the last week of 2023, not too far from a state qualification.
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Post by hewhowaits on Sept 16, 2024 18:03:46 GMT -6
Taylor Premiere2:30 - Madison, IN (A) I also wanted to note that this turned out to be the Madison from Middletown, Ohio It wasn't too many years ago that Middletown Madison was competing in AAAA. Madison Consolidated, IN is usually just referred to as Madison by MSBA and typically in A. Thanks for the update.
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Post by ohioguy2 on Sept 16, 2024 18:22:29 GMT -6
I also wanted to note that this turned out to be the Madison from Middletown, Ohio It wasn't too many years ago that Middletown Madison was competing in AAAA. Madison Consolidated, IN is usually just referred to as Madison by MSBA and typically in A. Thanks for the update. Maybe a long time ago, but Middletown Madison has been been “Madison Marching Band” for MSBA for at least 5-10 years. Madison Consolidated has been listed as that for at least that same amount of time.
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Post by hewhowaits on Sept 17, 2024 3:58:56 GMT -6
It wasn't too many years ago that Middletown Madison was competing in AAAA. Madison Consolidated, IN is usually just referred to as Madison by MSBA and typically in A. Thanks for the update. Maybe a long time ago, but Middletown Madison has been been “Madison Marching Band” for MSBA for at least 5-10 years. Madison Consolidated has been listed as that for at least that same amount of time. The switch took place after I departed the area, then. The biggest part leading me to create the error was the band being in Class A.
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Post by ohmbandfan26 on Sept 17, 2024 8:34:29 GMT -6
One of my favorite quirks about Ohio school districting is that the state has five districts that are Northwest or Northwestern Local and none are in the northwestern portion of the state.
Additionally, there's a Northeastern Local in Springfield as well as a Northeastern Local in Defiance County, both famously not in the northeast
(I realize there are perfectly reasonable reasons why they are named as such, but it's a funny coincidence).
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