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Post by marimba11 on Jun 14, 2020 16:08:32 GMT -6
Some of it is going to be driven by how much people are willing to sacrifice for the overall goal. The goal of a local invitational (in Indiana) is to give bands a venues too perform and be evaluated with the goal of getting better AND provide a fundraiser to the local booster organization/school The goal of ISSMA (or other state organization) is to further music education and adjudicate who is a state finalist/state champion. For the local schools who host these competitions it is also a fundraiser but is not coequal with the goals of ISSMA. Of course we can’t ignore that ISSMA makes money as well. For this reason it was much easier to cancel concert band contest in the spring than marching band contests in the fall. The goal of BOA is to make money for BOA in order to promote music education. The give awards because it drives bands to attend and help them make money. (Admittedly I am probably more skeptical of BOA compared to state organizations, but am also willing to admit that I am wrong) With this in mind, if you are Fishers (who has a nice invitational but not as well established as a Ben Davis, Center Grove or Avon) how willing are you to host if they ability to make money is greatly reduced? If you are ISSMA are you willing to adjust your schedule and look for a streaming partner to keep state finals viable even if you don’t make as much money for you and your school partners? BOA can’t lose money so it may be best to cut shows to avoid the expense. A dollar spent has to be recouped plus make profit. Money not spent stays in your pocket and all you have lost is the opportunity make money. I guess ultimately I am wondering how committed are people to providing a competitive outlet for bands if the profit factor is absent. I am willing to give up nothing. The new normal is outrageous.
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Post by bandaid on Jun 14, 2020 16:13:14 GMT -6
I know in Hendricks County where you have bands such as Avon, Brownsburg, Plainfield, Danville and Tri-West all of the Superintendents got together last week to discuss the upcoming school year and the "Re-Opening Considerations" released by the Indiana Department of Education.
Having watched Plainfield's school board meeting last week the Superintendent is supposed to start releasing information this week.
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Post by paddy on Jun 14, 2020 17:04:50 GMT -6
Some of it is going to be driven by how much people are willing to sacrifice for the overall goal. The goal of a local invitational (in Indiana) is to give bands a venues too perform and be evaluated with the goal of getting better AND provide a fundraiser to the local booster organization/school The goal of ISSMA (or other state organization) is to further music education and adjudicate who is a state finalist/state champion. For the local schools who host these competitions it is also a fundraiser but is not coequal with the goals of ISSMA. Of course we can’t ignore that ISSMA makes money as well. For this reason it was much easier to cancel concert band contest in the spring than marching band contests in the fall. The goal of BOA is to make money for BOA in order to promote music education. The give awards because it drives bands to attend and help them make money. (Admittedly I am probably more skeptical of BOA compared to state organizations, but am also willing to admit that I am wrong) With this in mind, if you are Fishers (who has a nice invitational but not as well established as a Ben Davis, Center Grove or Avon) how willing are you to host if they ability to make money is greatly reduced? If you are ISSMA are you willing to adjust your schedule and look for a streaming partner to keep state finals viable even if you don’t make as much money for you and your school partners? BOA can’t lose money so it may be best to cut shows to avoid the expense. A dollar spent has to be recouped plus make profit. Money not spent stays in your pocket and all you have lost is the opportunity make money. I guess ultimately I am wondering how committed are people to providing a competitive outlet for bands if the profit factor is absent. I am willing to give up nothing. The new normal is outrageous. Without info about what demographic (for lack of a better word) you represent it is impossible to have a conversation.
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Post by marimba11 on Jun 14, 2020 17:19:29 GMT -6
I am willing to give up nothing. The new normal is outrageous. Without info about what demographic (for lack of a better word) you represent it is impossible to have a conversation. Lol I’m not sure I deserve a response. But SC is home base
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Post by paddy on Jun 14, 2020 17:44:51 GMT -6
Without info about what demographic (for lack of a better word) you represent it is impossible to have a conversation. Lol I’m not sure I deserve a response. But SC is home base But are you a current student, a parent/booster, a unaffiliated fan, a staff member/director? I can’t say that I have any brilliant insights, but I’m always interested in good conversation.
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Post by marimba11 on Jun 14, 2020 17:46:17 GMT -6
Lol I’m not sure I deserve a response. But SC is home base But are you a current student, a parent/booster, a unaffiliated fan, a staff member/director? I can’t say that I have any brilliant insights, but I’m always interested in good conversation. Alumni/ unaffiliated band fan of all bands 😊
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Post by paddy on Jun 15, 2020 8:42:01 GMT -6
But are you a current student, a parent/booster, a unaffiliated fan, a staff member/director? I can’t say that I have any brilliant insights, but I’m always interested in good conversation. Alumni/ unaffiliated band fan of all bands 😊 If I was in the leadership of one of the groups I mentioned above, you would unfortunately be in the first group of folks to be excluded from onsite attendance. But I would also be working to provide a streaming option. If (and I am not currently being asked by anyone who matters) I was helping with this I would be looking at ways to safely get kids to compete with at least their parents/supporters (by issuing tickets to groups) in the stands. Next would be looking at blocks of bands (in most competitions that would be grouped by class) where I would allow anyone who has a group issued ticket in the stands.
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Post by hewhowaits on Jun 15, 2020 8:48:40 GMT -6
At least one frequent GN finalist school is currently holding Guard and Percussion camps in person. These camps include gathering restrictions and require a special waiver being signed (in addition to the normal participation waivers always in place).
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Post by ohioguy2 on Jun 15, 2020 9:07:35 GMT -6
At least one frequent GN finalist school is currently holding Guard and Percussion camps in person. These camps include gathering restrictions and require a special waiver being signed (in addition to the normal participation waivers always in place). Several schools in Ohio are going into their third or fourth week of rehearsals.
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Post by paddy on Jun 15, 2020 10:09:05 GMT -6
At least one frequent GN finalist school is currently holding Guard and Percussion camps in person. These camps include gathering restrictions and require a special waiver being signed (in addition to the normal participation waivers always in place). Several schools in Ohio are going into their third or fourth week of rehearsals. In person? Indiana schools have been barred from school related activities (on campus and off) by the state through June 30.
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Post by ohioguy2 on Jun 15, 2020 10:56:17 GMT -6
Several schools in Ohio are going into their third or fourth week of rehearsals. In person? Indiana schools have been barred from school related activities (on campus and off) by the state through June 30. Yes, in person. Very small groups, lots of temperature screenings and social distancing.
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Post by paddy on Jun 15, 2020 11:31:17 GMT -6
In person? Indiana schools have been barred from school related activities (on campus and off) by the state through June 30. Yes, in person. Very small groups, lots of temperature screenings and social distancing. Interesting given overall differences in response between the 2 states. I always felt that Ohio was a bit more restrictive than Indiana.
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Post by cinnamonpromenade on Jun 15, 2020 13:10:30 GMT -6
I am willing to give up nothing. The new normal is outrageous. It is inconvenient, for sure... What, specifically, would you describe as outrageous?
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Post by ilikeguard on Jun 15, 2020 17:18:18 GMT -6
Hebron has been having in-person drum camp if I’m not mistaken. BA is also doing in-person guard camp.
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Post by marimba11 on Jun 15, 2020 21:28:24 GMT -6
I am willing to give up nothing. The new normal is outrageous. It is inconvenient, for sure... What, specifically, would you describe as outrageous? What we have had to give up, for science that changes daily? Come on this is getting absurd. South Carolina has hundreds of cases daily, (700+) but usually only one or two deaths. The curve has flattened, and now healthy people are getting it to develop herd immunity. hydroxychloroquine alone, pretty sure on the odd number days it’s good and the even number days it’s good. So much conflicting reports. I know I know they say they didn’t know before... okay so if health officials didn’t know before what science said these lockdown measures were necessary in the first place?. I have a family friend who is a mass causality MD who has worked for some very large companies. She says no where in any epidemiological textbooks does the term “social distancing” or quarantining healthy people mentioned. Say what you will about whatever, but that’s certainly something I didn’t know before. Sure the virus is real and it has killed, but at some point living like this just isn’t right. So what we have to fight for all the things we had before? DCI WGI, ... I’m sick of it. We should be drooling over leaked dci videos right now getting ready for an incredible season, but no we can’t because China has to release a virus on the world and our authorities had to overreact. And not only that if you don’t support these measures you basically take the side of death to humanity. I call this outrageous.
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Post by Carlos C on Jun 15, 2020 22:19:31 GMT -6
My high school marching band is from Illinois and we just barely started our marching season today! There are a few restrictions such as each section rehearses one day a week. An example is that our Trumpet, Clarinets, and Mellophones rehearse only on mondays from 3:30 to 6:30 while maintaining our distance from each other and we all split up into different groups around the football field. We do have to sign a liability form and for every rehearsal we have we have to do a covid-19 form. We do get our temperatures checked but other than that it's definitely better then doing nothing. My band is still currently going to Grand Nats this year!
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Post by bigtrombone on Jun 15, 2020 23:24:04 GMT -6
It is inconvenient, for sure... What, specifically, would you describe as outrageous? What we have had to give up, for science that changes daily? Come on this is getting absurd. South Carolina has hundreds of cases daily, (700+) but usually only one or two deaths. The curve has flattened, and now healthy people are getting it to develop herd immunity. hydroxychloroquine alone, pretty sure on the odd number days it’s good and the even number days it’s good. So much conflicting reports. I know I know they say they didn’t know before... okay so if health officials didn’t know before what science said these lockdown measures were necessary in the first place?. I have a family friend who is a mass causality MD who has worked for some very large companies. She says no where in any epidemiological textbooks does the term “social distancing” or quarantining healthy people mentioned. Say what you will about whatever, but that’s certainly something I didn’t know before. Sure the virus is real and it has killed, but at some point living like this just isn’t right. So what we have to fight for all the things we had before? DCI WGI, ... I’m sick of it. We should be drooling over leaked dci videos right now getting ready for an incredible season, but no we can’t because China has to release a virus on the world and our authorities had to overreact. And not only that if you don’t support these measures you basically take the side of death to humanity. I call this outrageous. I live in South Dakota, and we have over 5,500 cases and will likely pass 6,000 by the end of the week or at the beginning of next week. We have had 75 people die in the state and we've been fortunate that those numbers have stayed low considering what's been happening in the states surrounding us. Those that have died are older people and immunocompromised people. There are also younger people and perfectly healthy people who have died too. I think the best way to describe it is this; getting COVID-19 is like playing a game of Russian Roulette. You can get it and recover fine, or you can get it and a couple days later be fighting for your life on a ventilator. The virus is wildly unpredictable. My mom is immunocompromised and is a teacher at a public school in Sioux Falls. Right now, all systems are go for schools to reopen in Sioux Falls come late August and she's damned scared. Because if she catches the virus from a student who may be asymptomatic, she's basically recieving a death sentence. Right now we need to make concessions, if we want to beat this damn thing. I understand the frustration about not having DCI or the fears that BOA might not happen this fall. I get it. It sucks that DCI isn't happening this season. It really sucks. Last year I marched as a rook out with an open class corp. Right before finals week, right after our final show before Open Class Prelims, one of our members went into a school to use the bathroom before we departed for our final housing site, and this was when Gold was experiencing their plague (hand-foot-and-mouth if I recall correctly) and our member accidentally went through a door close to where Gold's sick members were being quarantined. Thankfully he was not exposed, but he had to wear a mask for the next couple days whenever we weren't rehearsing. If WGI had finished off their season, or if DCI went ahead with their season and a cluster of COVID-19 started springing up within a corp or an indoor drumline, and then god forbid, a performer or a staff member was hospitalized or died from it? That would have been 10 times more disastrous then a cancellation of a season, and would've guaranteed the extinction of the activity entirely. If giving up drum corps, music festivals, or having remote learning instead of in-person classes for a temporary amount of time can prevent my mom and others from catching COVID-19 and keep them safe, then I'm all for it.
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Post by marimba11 on Jun 16, 2020 5:27:09 GMT -6
What we have had to give up, for science that changes daily? Come on this is getting absurd. South Carolina has hundreds of cases daily, (700+) but usually only one or two deaths. The curve has flattened, and now healthy people are getting it to develop herd immunity. hydroxychloroquine alone, pretty sure on the odd number days it’s good and the even number days it’s good. So much conflicting reports. I know I know they say they didn’t know before... okay so if health officials didn’t know before what science said these lockdown measures were necessary in the first place?. I have a family friend who is a mass causality MD who has worked for some very large companies. She says no where in any epidemiological textbooks does the term “social distancing” or quarantining healthy people mentioned. Say what you will about whatever, but that’s certainly something I didn’t know before. Sure the virus is real and it has killed, but at some point living like this just isn’t right. So what we have to fight for all the things we had before? DCI WGI, ... I’m sick of it. We should be drooling over leaked dci videos right now getting ready for an incredible season, but no we can’t because China has to release a virus on the world and our authorities had to overreact. And not only that if you don’t support these measures you basically take the side of death to humanity. I call this outrageous. I live in South Dakota, and we have over 5,500 cases and will likely pass 6,000 by the end of the week or at the beginning of next week. We have had 75 people die in the state and we've been fortunate that those numbers have stayed low considering what's been happening in the states surrounding us. Those that have died are older people and immunocompromised people. There are also younger people and perfectly healthy people who have died too. I think the best way to describe it is this; getting COVID-19 is like playing a game of Russian Roulette. You can get it and recover fine, or you can get it and a couple days later be fighting for your life on a ventilator. The virus is wildly unpredictable. My mom is immunocompromised and is a teacher at a public school in Sioux Falls. Right now, all systems are go for schools to reopen in Sioux Falls come late August and she's damned scared. Because if she catches the virus from a student who may be asymptomatic, she's basically recieving a death sentence. Right now we need to make concessions, if we want to beat this damn thing. I understand the frustration about not having DCI or the fears that BOA might not happen this fall. I get it. It sucks that DCI isn't happening this season. It really sucks. Last year I marched as a rook out with an open class corp. Right before finals week, right after our final show before Open Class Prelims, one of our members went into a school to use the bathroom before we departed for our final housing site, and this was when Gold was experiencing their plague (hand-foot-and-mouth if I recall correctly) and our member accidentally went through a door close to where Gold's sick members were being quarantined. Thankfully he was not exposed, but he had to wear a mask for the next couple days whenever we weren't rehearsing. If WGI had finished off their season, or if DCI went ahead with their season and a cluster of COVID-19 started springing up within a corp or an indoor drumline, and then god forbid, a performer or a staff member was hospitalized or died from it? That would have been 10 times more disastrous then a cancellation of a season, and would've guaranteed the extinction of the activity entirely. If giving up drum corps, music festivals, or having remote learning instead of in-person classes for a temporary amount of time can prevent my mom and others from catching COVID-19 and keep them safe, then I'm all for it. I respect your opinion. But saving how many lives would DCI have killed vs. how many lives will be made better because of it? It’s starts to become a calculation government officials can’t even make. Young people are like zero risk of dying from it, perhaps an elderly bus driver could be at risk or something.
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Post by angelee on Jun 16, 2020 5:47:11 GMT -6
My high school marching band is from Illinois and we just barely started our marching season today! There are a few restrictions such as each section rehearses one day a week. An example is that our Trumpet, Clarinets, and Mellophones rehearse only on mondays from 3:30 to 6:30 while maintaining our distance from each other and we all split up into different groups around the football field. We do have to sign a liability form and for every rehearsal we have we have to do a covid-19 form. We do get our temperatures checked but other than that it's definitely better then doing nothing. My band is still currently going to Grand Nats this year! If my son is going to have to sign liability waivers, I’m not sure I’ll let him participate this year. If the school is not taking proper precautions, then that’s a no go from me. Sorry. I know drill is written, and shows are complete, but at this point if a program recognizes risk of infection due to their program, then he’s out. I know I’m not alone.
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Post by angelee on Jun 16, 2020 5:54:53 GMT -6
I respect your opinion. But saving how many lives would DCI have killed vs. how many lives will be made better because of it? It’s starts to become a calculation government officials can’t even make. Young people are like zero risk of dying from it, perhaps an elderly bus driver could be at risk or something. No activity should kill for the enjoyment of others. Your statement is heartless. No one is expendable for your enjoyment. Even the “elderly bus driver” 🙄
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Post by marimba11 on Jun 16, 2020 6:22:57 GMT -6
I respect your opinion. But saving how many lives would DCI have killed vs. how many lives will be made better because of it? It’s starts to become a calculation government officials can’t even make. Young people are like zero risk of dying from it, perhaps an elderly bus driver could be at risk or something. No activity should kill for the enjoyment of others. Your statement is heartless. No one is expendable for your enjoyment. Even the “elderly bus driver” 🙄 Not for my enjoyment, for the experience of the members. You value your band experience right, or you wouldn’t be posting here.
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Post by angelee on Jun 16, 2020 6:25:39 GMT -6
No activity should kill for the enjoyment of others. Your statement is heartless. No one is expendable for your enjoyment. Even the “elderly bus driver” 🙄 Not for my enjoyment, for the experience of the members. You value your band experience right, or you wouldn’t be posting here. I do as does my entire family, but not at the expense of someone’s life. Nope.
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Post by hewhowaits on Jun 16, 2020 7:00:55 GMT -6
My high school marching band is from Illinois and we just barely started our marching season today! There are a few restrictions such as each section rehearses one day a week. An example is that our Trumpet, Clarinets, and Mellophones rehearse only on mondays from 3:30 to 6:30 while maintaining our distance from each other and we all split up into different groups around the football field. We do have to sign a liability form and for every rehearsal we have we have to do a covid-19 form. We do get our temperatures checked but other than that it's definitely better then doing nothing. My band is still currently going to Grand Nats this year! If my son is going to have to sign liability waivers, I’m not sure I’ll let him participate this year. If the school is not taking proper precautions, then that’s a no go from me. Sorry. I know drill is written, and shows are complete, but at this point if a program recognizes risk of infection due to their program, then he’s out. I know I’m not alone. Don't you already sign liability waivers for your son to participate in marching band and other activities? The coronavirus-related waiver is merely another layer of the same documentation stating, in essence, "I understand the risk involved in participation. I won't hold the staff or school liable for anything bad that happens so long as the actions were taken in good faith."
And even WITH those signed waivers, the right to sue isn't forfeited in our litigious society. It just requires a little more proof of negligence than would be needed in the absence of the waiver.
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Post by angelee on Jun 16, 2020 7:36:21 GMT -6
If my son is going to have to sign liability waivers, I’m not sure I’ll let him participate this year. If the school is not taking proper precautions, then that’s a no go from me. Sorry. I know drill is written, and shows are complete, but at this point if a program recognizes risk of infection due to their program, then he’s out. I know I’m not alone. Don't you already sign liability waivers for your son to participate in marching band and other activities? The coronavirus-related waiver is merely another layer of the same documentation stating, in essence, "I understand the risk involved in participation. I won't hold the staff or school liable for anything bad that happens so long as the actions were taken in good faith."
And even WITH those signed waivers, the right to sue isn't forfeited in our litigious society. It just requires a little more proof of negligence than would be needed in the absence of the waiver.
Nope. We have no waivers to sign (I just graduated my first). Only a medical card for permission to treat and a willingness to be drug tested. GN finalist band program.
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Post by paddy on Jun 16, 2020 7:45:36 GMT -6
My high school marching band is from Illinois and we just barely started our marching season today! There are a few restrictions such as each section rehearses one day a week. An example is that our Trumpet, Clarinets, and Mellophones rehearse only on mondays from 3:30 to 6:30 while maintaining our distance from each other and we all split up into different groups around the football field. We do have to sign a liability form and for every rehearsal we have we have to do a covid-19 form. We do get our temperatures checked but other than that it's definitely better then doing nothing. My band is still currently going to Grand Nats this year! If my son is going to have to sign liability waivers, I’m not sure I’ll let him participate this year. If the school is not taking proper precautions, then that’s a no go from me. Sorry. I know drill is written, and shows are complete, but at this point if a program recognizes risk of infection due to their program, then he’s out. I know I’m not alone. Because a waiver is asked for doesn't mean that the school is not taking proper precautions.
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Post by paddy on Jun 16, 2020 7:48:35 GMT -6
Don't you already sign liability waivers for your son to participate in marching band and other activities? The coronavirus-related waiver is merely another layer of the same documentation stating, in essence, "I understand the risk involved in participation. I won't hold the staff or school liable for anything bad that happens so long as the actions were taken in good faith."
And even WITH those signed waivers, the right to sue isn't forfeited in our litigious society. It just requires a little more proof of negligence than would be needed in the absence of the waiver.
Nope. We have no waivers to sign (I just graduated my first). Only a medical card for permission to treat and a willingness to be drug tested. GN finalist band program. I am guessing that in the medical card process there is a statement that you acknowledge the risk of participation. It is pretty common practice among schools in Indiana, GN Finalist or not.
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Post by marimba11 on Jun 16, 2020 8:23:03 GMT -6
Not for my enjoyment, for the experience of the members. You value your band experience right, or you wouldn’t be posting here. I do as does my entire family, but not at the expense of someone’s life. Nope. I don’t mean to sound heartless, but the question becomes what are you willing to give up based on the facts - that change daily mind you. Perhaps people would die but honestly that’s conjecture, can’t prove one way or the other. You touch the credit card machine at the grocery checkout counter no?
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Post by marimba11 on Jun 16, 2020 8:42:59 GMT -6
Let’s play this scenario out... DCI happens, 1 member in a corps gets sick, spreads it to another person, that person spreads it, etc. etc. Now you have a bunch of members out for 2 weeks (at minimum). Let’s say these people are 2 drum majors, a lead guard member, etc. and the show is already close to being finished. I know this might seem like a stretch as to who gets sick, but it would be something that could have happened. Ok so these people are out, you now need to rehearse for 2 weeks (or more) without these people as they’re quarantined. Where are they quarantined? In a special bus? The corps has to keep moving, and how on earth would they keep someone quarantined while doing that? Now the even worse possibility. One of these members passes away from Covid 19 on tour and this reaches local press, eventually to national press. Just think about the headline. “Marching Band Member Dies While on National Tour from Covid 19”. It would be the end of the season at the very minimum, quite possibly the end of the activity. How about the fans? Many of the fans of the activity are older people. The ones that are most in harms way from the virus. How bout that headline? “Man dies after going to Marching Band Contest”. How about before all of this? Who (kids and parents both) are going to actually want to put themselves/their child in harms way? I sincerely doubt many would be ok with this. I truly don’t have any clue how someone could think this is a good idea. Did the cavaliers quarantine their members in 2015 When they came down with their sickness? No they did not, they just stopped for a few days and kept on going. But now it’s different?? Come on
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Post by Allohak on Jun 16, 2020 10:15:40 GMT -6
Let’s play this scenario out... DCI happens, 1 member in a corps gets sick, spreads it to another person, that person spreads it, etc. etc. Now you have a bunch of members out for 2 weeks (at minimum). Let’s say these people are 2 drum majors, a lead guard member, etc. and the show is already close to being finished. I know this might seem like a stretch as to who gets sick, but it would be something that could have happened. Ok so these people are out, you now need to rehearse for 2 weeks (or more) without these people as they’re quarantined. Where are they quarantined? In a special bus? The corps has to keep moving, and how on earth would they keep someone quarantined while doing that? Now the even worse possibility. One of these members passes away from Covid 19 on tour and this reaches local press, eventually to national press. Just think about the headline. “Marching Band Member Dies While on National Tour from Covid 19”. It would be the end of the season at the very minimum, quite possibly the end of the activity. How about the fans? Many of the fans of the activity are older people. The ones that are most in harms way from the virus. How bout that headline? “Man dies after going to Marching Band Contest”. How about before all of this? Who (kids and parents both) are going to actually want to put themselves/their child in harms way? I sincerely doubt many would be ok with this. I truly don’t have any clue how someone could think this is a good idea. Did the cavaliers quarantine their members in 2015 When they came down with their sickness? No they did not, they just stopped for a few days and kept on going. But now it’s different?? Come on You seem to think the virus is going away, which it isn't. The spread has slowed, not stopped nor decreased. On a Cartesian coordinate chart, we're on a plateau, not a downcurve. And with everything starting to open back up, there's a very real risk of the spread speeding up to exponential again. All in all, let's call the caution and precaution "better safe(r) than sorry".
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Post by marimba11 on Jun 16, 2020 11:24:31 GMT -6
Did the cavaliers quarantine their members in 2015 When they came down with their sickness? No they did not, they just stopped for a few days and kept on going. But now it’s different?? Come on You seem to think the virus is going away, which it isn't. The spread has slowed, not stopped nor decreased. On a Cartesian coordinate chart, we're on a plateau, not a downcurve. And with everything starting to open back up, there's a very real risk of the spread speeding up to exponential again. All in all, let's call the caution and precaution "better safe(r) than sorry". Not at all what I am saying. In fact the idea that we have to “destroy” the virus at all is absurd. The concept that we can only go back to normal when we have zero cases is also absurd. The only virus we have a cure for on the SURFACE OF THE EARTH is small pox. That’s it. Everything else we have to live with. Swine flu, AIDS( no vaccine), West Nile, Malaria, SARS (no vaccine), the common cold, the list goes on. Curves rise and flatten naturally on their own, but of course you won’t hear about that. We cannot destroy the virus, it is Mother Nature man made or not. This we must learn to live with it like we live with every virus.
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