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Post by paddy on May 12, 2020 5:52:03 GMT -6
A successful show is typically designed now. I assume if the season is cancelled many schools will roll the design forward a year.
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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on May 12, 2020 6:01:26 GMT -6
Considering that we've seen many groups revealing their 2020 productions, there certainly seems to be a business as usual tone to everything. Perhaps these bands know things that we do not. One would assume so. Still, it does seem rather out of place with many of the the other messages that we're receiving from the States. In the words of a director who has had a show reveal: "I'm giving the kids something to look forward to even though we all know it's unlikely to happen this fall" Well, that's not a happy thought.
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Post by Allohak on May 12, 2020 6:04:30 GMT -6
In the words of a director who has had a show reveal: "I'm giving the kids something to look forward to even though we all know it's unlikely to happen this fall" Well, that's not a happy thought. That's not how it was put to the kids; rather behind-the-scenes conversation
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Post by LeanderMomma on May 12, 2020 7:36:15 GMT -6
I think that’s the reason show reveals are still happening. They want the kids to have some hope and something to look forward to.
@samuelculper That’s a very interesting idea! Holding your Senior back a year if this thing doesn’t die down by the fall.
What a crazy time. These kids will sure have a story to tell their children and grandchildren. Forget walking two miles to school, barefoot and in the snow! That’s nuthin! (2020 says Hold my beer!). 😂
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Post by Samuel Culper on May 12, 2020 8:16:49 GMT -6
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Post by atxbandnerd on May 12, 2020 9:14:53 GMT -6
I honestly was super positive at the onset of this thing. Now? Not so much. I feel bad for these kids...especially the incoming seniors.
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Post by paddy on May 12, 2020 10:01:36 GMT -6
I honestly was super positive at the onset of this thing. Now? Not so much. I feel bad for these kids...especially the incoming seniors. I feel bad for the current seniors (class of 2020) but I believe the incoming seniors (class of 2021) stand to lose much more.
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Post by WoodlandsMom4ever on May 12, 2020 13:03:44 GMT -6
I honestly was super positive at the onset of this thing. Now? Not so much. I feel bad for these kids...especially the incoming seniors. I feel bad for the current seniors (class of 2020) but I believe the incoming seniors (class of 2021) stand to lose much more. I’m feeling the same- probably because I have a junior this year- so senior next year. Here they just announced last week they have scheduled graduation at the beginning of June. Graduating class is around 1100. Normally it’s done in one graduation ceremony at a local outdoor performance venue. Kids are given 4 tickets for family members to sit in seats to attend, but it’s open for anyone to attend and sit in the grass seating area. This year the graduation will be split into two ceremonies. It will take place at the isd stadium where everyone will be spread out much more instead of the performance venue and only 4 tickets per graduate will be handed out- only those with tickets will be allowed to attend.
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Post by WoodlandsMom4ever on May 12, 2020 13:06:35 GMT -6
In the words of a director who has had a show reveal: "I'm giving the kids something to look forward to even though we all know it's unlikely to happen this fall" Well, that's not a happy thought. Our director has told us that they are putting plans in place to carry on as normal... and will try to have everything planned out in case they can have a normal season. But they have alternative ideas for a shortened or modified season as well. If they don’t put time into planning now- there’s absolutely no chance of pulling off a normal season if by some chance they can have it. So they plan and work on it now and wait and see what life looks like late summer/fall
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Post by marimba11 on May 12, 2020 21:40:01 GMT -6
I did a quick Google search with keywords "reopening schools". I found a few docs of reccomendations, etc. But not one mention of the words extracurricular, sports, band, music, etc. Only mention I've seen is Missouri saying "band classes are cancelled or reimagined". Literally the second biggest thing to education, and first in us students minds, is extracurriculars and sports. And no mention of them? I find it very weird that there's no mention, unless they're inferring that they are just cancelled. But still, put it in print. One last thing to point out and I know we've had conversations here before about it. We might be seeing a fall where let's say TX, AL, GA, IN, etc. are having seasons, but Northeast states, CA, etc. are not. I personally believe we will see football seasons no matter what in many states, even if it's in the spring. But the thing to think about is do organizations such as UIL/ISSMA just forget about marching season if say football is moved later or to the spring? We'll have to wait and see I guess. We all have activites we love, and students certainly look forward to their extracurriculars, but in the grand scheme of things, they are just that: extra. The focus for schools reopening is, rightly, getting students the best, safest education possible under the circumstances. If that means students in classrooms but limiting contact time/potential by saying sports/activities don't happen, so be it. Unfortunate as it is, that would probably be the safest course of action. I disagree. School is not an extra in the western world. Extracurriculars, co-curriculars are not an extra. They are vital to the culture of the American k12 system. Not only that, they are healthy for our young adults socially (daily interaction), physically (exposing ourselves to diseases and keeping up our immune system, exercise), and mentally (the actual learning ect.) Now we are just pushing the benchmark further and further. The government can not stop the spread of the virus. It must be managed within the constitutional limits of power which it currently is not being. We can’t sweep aside centuries of freedoms... for what?? The virus is real, the statistics are not. We’ve had virus’ for centuries and none of this reaction has public approval. The damage we have done to our economy, our businesses, our healthy population.... is just unbelievable. I do however think it is extremely difficult to plan anything, because it’s arbitrary there is no process atm for our government, let alone bands of America. I am not a doctor but we are killing this virus with chemotherapy and it may kill the patient soon enough.
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Post by LeanderMomma on May 12, 2020 22:21:07 GMT -6
We all have activites we love, and students certainly look forward to their extracurriculars, but in the grand scheme of things, they are just that: extra. The focus for schools reopening is, rightly, getting students the best, safest education possible under the circumstances. If that means students in classrooms but limiting contact time/potential by saying sports/activities don't happen, so be it. Unfortunate as it is, that would probably be the safest course of action. I disagree. School is not an extra in the western world. Extracurriculars, co-curriculars are not an extra. They are vital to the culture of the American k12 system. Not only that, they are healthy for our young adults socially (daily interaction), physically (exposing ourselves to diseases and keeping up our immune system, exercise), and mentally (the actual learning ect.) Now we are just pushing the benchmark further and further. The government can not stop the spread of the virus. It must be managed within the constitutional limits of power which it currently is not being. We can’t sweep aside centuries of freedoms... for what?? The virus is real, the statistics are not. We’ve had virus’ for centuries and none of this reaction has public approval. The damage we have done to our economy, our businesses, our healthy population.... is just unbelievable. I do however think it is extremely difficult to plan anything, because it’s arbitrary there is no process atm for our government, let alone bands of America. I am not a doctor but we are killing this virus with chemotherapy and it may kill the patient soon enough. Many will disagree, but I think you’re dead right.
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Post by kvbrass on May 13, 2020 0:49:21 GMT -6
I disagree. School is not an extra in the western world. Extracurriculars, co-curriculars are not an extra. They are vital to the culture of the American k12 system. Not only that, they are healthy for our young adults socially (daily interaction), physically (exposing ourselves to diseases and keeping up our immune system, exercise), and mentally (the actual learning ect.) Now we are just pushing the benchmark further and further. The government can not stop the spread of the virus. It must be managed within the constitutional limits of power which it currently is not being. We can’t sweep aside centuries of freedoms... for what?? The virus is real, the statistics are not. We’ve had virus’ for centuries and none of this reaction has public approval. The damage we have done to our economy, our businesses, our healthy population.... is just unbelievable. I do however think it is extremely difficult to plan anything, because it’s arbitrary there is no process atm for our government, let alone bands of America. I am not a doctor but we are killing this virus with chemotherapy and it may kill the patient soon enough. Many will disagree, but I think you’re dead right. I think this is correct as well. I knew an exchange student a few years back who said the biggest difference with American school is that it’s not all about school. She was dead on. So much of our school experience is outside of the “tested” subjects. I also agree that the kids need something to look forward to so as long as your director friend isn’t leading them on just to save face for now and he actually knows that it’s going to get canceled officially, I think it’s a good thing. On the chance that the season happens they’ll be prepared!
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Post by TeamIndiana on May 13, 2020 7:29:37 GMT -6
I still think that things will carry on as "normal" as possible this school year. Will things be exactly as they have always been? No, but we all know that the virus is NOT going away anytime soon, and it is something that we will learn to live with (just like the seasonal flu). Each day we are learning more about it and fear levels have dropped with time. With extra health and safety precautions, this upcoming season can move forward as planned (of course that is assuming we don't all turn into zombies).
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Post by supersound on May 13, 2020 11:09:38 GMT -6
If anything schools and organizations will push for football to happen if they have to reduce the amount of spectators they have or limit to family that's how it'll be
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Post by atxbandnerd on May 13, 2020 11:19:45 GMT -6
Here is the latest from TEA. The sent this to ISD's yesterday. linkThere are many who believe that there are powers that be who are pushing those in leadership at the highest levels to move Texas to a year round school state, and are using Covid 19 as the launching pad to do so. Again, this mentions nothing of UIL/Football or any other extra curricular activity.
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Post by LeanderMomma on May 13, 2020 11:28:59 GMT -6
Here is the latest from TEA. The sent this to ISD's yesterday. linkThere are many who believe that there are powers that be who are pushing those in leadership at the highest levels to move Texas to a year round school state, and are using Covid 19 as the launching pad to do so. Again, this mentions nothing of UIL/Football or any other extra curricular activity. That was definitely the impression I got after reading the first article. Being a preschool Director who operates my school pretty much on the basis of the Round Rock ISD calendar, this could really affect me greatly. I have no idea if parents would expect year round preschool as well or if they would be fine with the current September thru May schedule we’ve always followed. Lots to think about here.
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Post by supersound on May 13, 2020 11:56:14 GMT -6
Here is the latest from TEA. The sent this to ISD's yesterday. linkThere are many who believe that there are powers that be who are pushing those in leadership at the highest levels to move Texas to a year round school state, and are using Covid 19 as the launching pad to do so. Again, this mentions nothing of UIL/Football or any other extra curricular activity. I've known many that have experienced year round school years. I knew a teacher that specifically moved because they couldn't handle their schools year-round policy. I've had friends move here from parts where schooling is year round they claim that students seem to work in a fog like state through most of the school year with the understanding there never truly is a break. I understand summer slide , and especially with covid year long school seems lucrative but when you look at students and teachers wellbeing it just doesn't pan out. Another aspect is taxes likely increase to support year long schooling.
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Post by atxbandnerd on May 13, 2020 12:16:05 GMT -6
I have to say that if this is the plan that districts will follow, I will be on my hands and knees..thankful that the kid has 1 year left of school.
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Post by paddy on May 13, 2020 13:39:20 GMT -6
Here is the latest from TEA. The sent this to ISD's yesterday. linkThere are many who believe that there are powers that be who are pushing those in leadership at the highest levels to move Texas to a year round school state, and are using Covid 19 as the launching pad to do so. Again, this mentions nothing of UIL/Football or any other extra curricular activity. I've known many that have experienced year round school years. I knew a teacher that specifically moved because they couldn't handle their schools year-round policy. I've had friends move here from parts where schooling is year round they claim that students seem to work in a fog like state through most of the school year with the understanding there never truly is a break. I understand summer slide , and especially with covid year long school seems lucrative but when you look at students and teachers wellbeing it just doesn't pan out. Another aspect is taxes likely increase to support year long schooling. How are you defining year round school? Is it true 9 weeks on/3 weeks off with a 6 week summer and actual remediation/enrichment during breaks? Is it early August start with 2 weeks at fall, 2 weeks at winter, 2 weeks at spring and and a 10 week summer with little to no remediation/enrichment?
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Post by WoodlandsMom4ever on May 13, 2020 13:46:32 GMT -6
Here is the latest from TEA. The sent this to ISD's yesterday. linkThere are many who believe that there are powers that be who are pushing those in leadership at the highest levels to move Texas to a year round school state, and are using Covid 19 as the launching pad to do so. Again, this mentions nothing of UIL/Football or any other extra curricular activity. That was definitely the impression I got after reading the first article. Being a preschool Director who operates my school pretty much on the basis of the Round Rock ISD calendar, this could really affect me greatly. I have no idea if parents would expect year round preschool as well or if they would be fine with the current September thru May schedule we’ve always followed. Lots to think about here. I have teacher friends that saw this schedule being pushed as early as the first week of March with screen shots- that means it was already thought out and organized for the first push... Which means they were trying to push for the schedule before the covid crisis happened. I’m not a fan... have friends and family in other states that are on year round school and it’s impossible to ever plan things to see each other because someone is always in school. At least with a traditional summer we generally have a couple weeks in July that the whole family can gather for reunions.
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Post by LeanderMomma on May 13, 2020 14:18:56 GMT -6
That was definitely the impression I got after reading the first article. Being a preschool Director who operates my school pretty much on the basis of the Round Rock ISD calendar, this could really affect me greatly. I have no idea if parents would expect year round preschool as well or if they would be fine with the current September thru May schedule we’ve always followed. Lots to think about here. I have teacher friends that saw this schedule being pushed as early as the first week of March with screen shots- that means it was already thought out and organized for the first push... Which means they were trying to push for the schedule before the covid crisis happened. I’m not a fan... have friends and family in other states that are on year round school and it’s impossible to ever plan things to see each other because someone is always in school. At least with a traditional summer we generally have a couple weeks in July that the whole family can gather for reunions. Yes I hate it! It could wreck my preschool program. And band practice schedules. Who’s big idea is this anyway, and why?!
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Post by twhsalumniparent on May 13, 2020 16:52:27 GMT -6
I have teacher friends that saw this schedule being pushed as early as the first week of March with screen shots- that means it was already thought out and organized for the first push... Which means they were trying to push for the schedule before the covid crisis happened. I’m not a fan... have friends and family in other states that are on year round school and it’s impossible to ever plan things to see each other because someone is always in school. At least with a traditional summer we generally have a couple weeks in July that the whole family can gather for reunions. Yes I hate it! It could wreck my preschool program. And band practice schedules. Who’s big idea is this anyway, and why?! Glad all mine have graduated.... I have many concerns with the responses that are being pushed in education and in the responses to this current virus.
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Post by lostchoirguy on May 13, 2020 17:51:02 GMT -6
I'm a teacher and I would probably quit and find a new profession if schools around me went to year-round schools. What I do is already a tiresome and thankless job, but to expect me to do it without a much needed break in the summer just doesn't seem worth it for the pay (which would likely stay the same as contracted days aren't changing). I feel selfish and deplorable for saying this stuff, but sometimes you have to put your own well-being in consideration.
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Post by turfday on May 13, 2020 19:15:21 GMT -6
I'm a teacher and I would probably quit and find a new profession if schools around me went to year-round schools. What I do is already a tiresome and thankless job, but to expect me to do it without a much needed break in the summer just doesn't seem worth it for the pay (which would likely stay the same as contracted days aren't changing). I feel selfish and deplorable for saying this stuff, but sometimes you have to put your own well-being in consideration. It's good you're saying this. You're showing the system that you're putting your foot down if push comes to shove and all year school happens that they'll be losing educators.
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Post by atxbandnerd on May 14, 2020 7:43:48 GMT -6
I'm a teacher and I would probably quit and find a new profession if schools around me went to year-round schools. What I do is already a tiresome and thankless job, but to expect me to do it without a much needed break in the summer just doesn't seem worth it for the pay (which would likely stay the same as contracted days aren't changing). I feel selfish and deplorable for saying this stuff, but sometimes you have to put your own well-being in consideration. Good. Lots of my teacher friends are saying the exact same thing. In Texas, there is one group of wealthy individuals who are pushing this thing forward. They have lots of influence with the Governor. Heck, they even hired folks to mess with the last Round Rock ISD bond election. Good luck to my teacher friends out there.
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Post by Allohak on May 14, 2020 8:40:40 GMT -6
It's funny to see so much anti-year-round sentiment here.
My cousin's kids were on a year-round schedule and they (the kids and my cousin) LOVED it because it spread out their off time and allowed them to go on interesting vacations without having to use all their PTO at once and the regular breaks were good for keeping their minds sharp.
They're no longer on that schedule (they moved), and miss it.
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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on May 14, 2020 8:50:10 GMT -6
It's funny to see so much anti-year-round sentiment here. My cousin's kids were on a year-round schedule and they (the kids and my cousin) LOVED it because it spread out their off time and allowed them to go on interesting vacations without having to use all their PTO at once and the regular breaks were good for keeping their minds sharp. They're no longer on that schedule (they moved), and miss it. My mom, long retired, was a Teacher. And I guarantee that she'd have hated the idea of year around school with longer breaks as being described. But...doesn't it all really come down to what we're all used to? I guarantee that if we'd all grown up generation after generation with a school year as described above (year around) and some nut case came along and suggested condensing it down to 9 months with almost no break and then 3 months off...people would revolt.
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Post by hewhowaits on May 14, 2020 10:28:06 GMT -6
One advantage to a true year-round school program would be the ability to develop four sports seasons, rather than three. This would be a bigger deal for smaller schools where the same athletes are spread very thin than for big schools where all but the elite athletes tend to specialize in fewer activities.
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Post by kvbrass on May 22, 2020 21:23:34 GMT -6
Yep! Hope they lead the way for other states.
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Post by hewhowaits on May 23, 2020 6:20:49 GMT -6
Not a SINGLE mention of ANY limitation on the number of weekly hours that Texas folks like to quote so often.
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