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Post by esco on Nov 15, 2019 21:07:08 GMT -6
Will the same judges, judge all of the semi final bands? Completely new slate Understand there will be a new combination of judges for semifinals, but will this be a one panel or two panel for all 39 bands? |
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Post by TeamIndiana on Nov 15, 2019 21:07:53 GMT -6
Understand there will be a new combination of judges for semifinals, but will this be a one panel or two panel for all 39 bands? One |
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Post by principalagent on Nov 15, 2019 21:07:58 GMT -6
Understand there will be a new combination of judges for semifinals, but will this be a one panel or two panel for all 39 bands? Sorry for the misread! One panel for all 39. |
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Post by esco on Nov 15, 2019 21:09:44 GMT -6
Understand there will be a new combination of judges for semifinals, but will this be a one panel or two panel for all 39 bands? Sorry for the misread! One panel for all 39. no worries, I should've worded a little differently. Thanks |
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Post by synthpatch14 on Nov 15, 2019 21:10:23 GMT -6
I don't think James Madison is only a class rep (yes, I understand they are performing in the class rep slots). I could find only 9 Panel 1 bands that are in the Top 22 slots. They are:
Ayala H.S., CA
Union H.S., OK
Homestead H.S., IN
Centerville H.S., OH
Rockford H.S., MI
Leander H.S., TX
The Woodlands H.S., TX
Vandegrift H.S., TX
Hebron H.S., TX
Did they change how they slot Semifinalists?
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Post by yuh on Nov 15, 2019 21:12:49 GMT -6
It’s weird that Panther Creek lost to James Madison by several points at BOA Virginia and now Panther Creek is the one in the next 8 not Madison. Guess that’s how it goes.
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Post by Allohak on Nov 15, 2019 21:13:11 GMT -6
17 from Panel 1
21 from Panel 2
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Post by principalagent on Nov 15, 2019 21:13:20 GMT -6
I don't think James Madison is only a class rep (yes, I understand they are performing in the class rep slots). I could find only 9 Panel 1 bands that are in the Top 22 slots. They are: Ayala H.S., CA Union H.S., OK Homestead H.S., IN Centerville H.S., OH Rockford H.S., MI Leander H.S., TX The Woodlands H.S., TX Vandegrift H.S., TX Hebron H.S., TX Did they change how they slot Semifinalists? This is correct. They put the top 22 overall in those spots, not necessarily both top 11s. |
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Post by indyguard on Nov 15, 2019 21:15:48 GMT -6
I feel bad they also had to kick off issma state finals, can’t catch a break with these first time performances And on the chance if they make finals, I wonder who drew #1? crazy enough I heard fishers also drew #1 but I’m not sure if that’s true I saw it online somewhere |
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Post by indianabandfan on Nov 15, 2019 21:15:55 GMT -6
I don't think James Madison is only a class rep (yes, I understand they are performing in the class rep slots). I could find only 9 Panel 1 bands that are in the Top 22 slots. They are: Ayala H.S., CA Union H.S., OK Homestead H.S., IN Centerville H.S., OH Rockford H.S., MI Leander H.S., TX The Woodlands H.S., TX Vandegrift H.S., TX Hebron H.S., TX Did they change how they slot Semifinalists? This is correct. They put the top 22 overall in those spots, not necessarily both top 11s. They do take the top 11 from both panels. Brownsburg and Miamisburg are the other 2 in the top 11 from panel 1. |
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Post by Allohak on Nov 15, 2019 21:17:20 GMT -6
And on the chance if they make finals, I wonder who drew #1? crazy enough I heard fishers also drew #1 but I’m not sure if that’s true I saw it online somewhere This is correct |
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Post by tuba2019indiana on Nov 15, 2019 21:17:54 GMT -6
Who are the class AA bands
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Post by principalagent on Nov 15, 2019 21:18:13 GMT -6
This is correct. They put the top 22 overall in those spots, not necessarily both top 11s. They do take the top 11 from both panels. Brownsburg and Miamisburg are the other 2 in the top 11 from panel 1. Then it worked out evenly this year, but that isn’t necessarily the case every year. |
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Post by rabb2t on Nov 15, 2019 21:18:46 GMT -6
crazy enough I heard fishers also drew #1 but I’m not sure if that’s true I saw it online somewhere This is correct Maybe next year they'll draw the highest number possible and it'll keep going down by one haha |
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Post by yayband914 on Nov 15, 2019 21:18:59 GMT -6
Who are the class AA bands Greenfield Central, North Hardin, Marian Catholic, Jenison, Lake Hamilton. |
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Post by Allohak on Nov 15, 2019 21:19:50 GMT -6
Who are the class AA bands Greenfield Central, North Hardin, Marian Catholic, Jenison, Lake Hamilton. And Miamisburg |
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Post by indianabandfan on Nov 15, 2019 21:21:24 GMT -6
They do take the top 11 from both panels. Brownsburg and Miamisburg are the other 2 in the top 11 from panel 1. Then it worked out evenly this year, but that isn’t necessarily the case every year. I'm pretty sure they take the top 11 from both panels and the next 8 highest regardless of panel for a total of 30 bands. The reason there are 38 this year is because they make sure there are at least 4 bands from each of the four classes. |
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Post by hewhowaits on Nov 15, 2019 21:25:10 GMT -6
I see 3 AAA groups as class representatives out of 4. That means the 4th group qualified for semis based on score, which means they won their class in prelims. Who is that for AAA? Leander is the only AAA band in the top 30. The class awards are based on semifinals, not prelims. |
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Post by principalagent on Nov 15, 2019 21:25:27 GMT -6
Then it worked out evenly this year, but that isn’t necessarily the case every year. I'm pretty sure they take the top 11 from both panels and the next 8 highest regardless of panel for a total of 30 bands. The reason there are 38 this year is because they make sure there are at least 4 bands from each of the four classes. Yes that’s all true. But the 5-26 spots in the schedule in the top 30 are the top 22 overall. marching.musicforall.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2019/05/2019-BOA-Rulebook.pdf Note the nuance in the advancement procedures on page 9 and the scheduling procedures on the top of page 10. |
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Post by tuba2019indiana on Nov 15, 2019 21:25:50 GMT -6
Greenfield Central, North Hardin, Marian Catholic, Jenison, Lake Hamilton. And Miamisburg I thought Miamisburg was AAA |
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Post by Allohak on Nov 15, 2019 21:27:41 GMT -6
Clarification:
The top 11 scoring bands from each panel advance to semifinals, then the next 8 highest scoring overall (regardless of panel) advance as well.
Once that 30 is determined, the top 2 bands in each class from each panel (if not already included) get advanced.
For performance slots, each of the following groups are placed in order as determined by a random draw:
-Those bands advancing for class representation
-The top 22 bands overall (regardless of panel)
-the bands finishing 23-30 overall (regardless of panel)
The first X (in this case, 8) bands on the schedule are the class advancers.
The top 22 perform in the middle of the semifinalists who qualified by score. The 23-30 group is split into two sets of 4, half at the beginning and half at the end.
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Post by hewhowaits on Nov 15, 2019 21:27:58 GMT -6
17 from Panel 1 21 from Panel 2 The top 30 breakdown is 13 from Panel 1 and 17 from Panel 2. The 6/2 split for the next 8 was not uncommon when we had Thursday/Friday setup and it continues with the Panel 1/Panel 2 setup. Also not overly surprising to me based on the bands assigned to each panel. |
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Post by oldnsdm on Nov 15, 2019 21:28:59 GMT -6
I thought Miamisburg was AAA And I thought Lake Hamilton was AAA. Doesn’t make sense for Greenfield Central to be added as a class rep if there are already 5 AA bands. ? |
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Post by Allohak on Nov 15, 2019 21:31:21 GMT -6
I thought Miamisburg was AAA And I thought Lake Hamilton was AAA. Doesn’t make sense for Greenfield Central to be added as a class rep if there are already 5 AA bands. ? Because they were 2nd place in AA on their panel. |
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Post by hewhowaits on Nov 15, 2019 21:31:28 GMT -6
I thought Miamisburg was AAA And I thought Lake Hamilton was AAA. Doesn’t make sense for Greenfield Central to be added as a class rep if there are already 5 AA bands. ? Four of the AA bands were from Panel 2. The requirement is for at least two per class per panel. Greenfield Central was the 2nd highest scoring AA band on Panel 1. |
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Post by indyguardmom on Nov 15, 2019 21:32:01 GMT -6
I thought Miamisburg was AAA And I thought Lake Hamilton was AAA. Doesn’t make sense for Greenfield Central to be added as a class rep if there are already 5 AA bands. ? But if four of them are from the same panel, then they'd need to get another one from the other panel. |
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Post by Allohak on Nov 15, 2019 21:32:07 GMT -6
I thought Miamisburg was AAA They can't be AAA because Milford and Chattahoochee are both AAA and advanced as class qualifiers from that panel. |
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Post by marimba11 on Nov 15, 2019 21:33:52 GMT -6
I see 3 AAA groups as class representatives out of 4. That means the 4th group qualified for semis based on score, which means they won their class in prelims. Who is that for AAA? Leander is the only AAA band in the top 30. The class awards are based on semifinals, not prelims. Wow, when has that ever happened before? |
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Post by midwamericanarts on Nov 15, 2019 21:34:11 GMT -6
I see 3 AAA groups as class representatives out of 4. That means the 4th group qualified for semis based on score, which means they won their class in prelims. Who is that for AAA? Leander is the only AAA band in the top 30. The class awards are based on semifinals, not prelims. Right, I’m aware of that. I just meant that the group was obviously the highest placing group of their class. If they were the only one to qualify via score, their odds of sweeping in semis would be really high. Of course, all of this is meaningless knowledge, now that I learned that the group was Leander. Kinda a no-brainer at that point  |
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Post by marimba11 on Nov 15, 2019 21:35:38 GMT -6
So question... it is possible for Miamisburg to have had a lower score than say Panther Creek? Since they were on separate panels
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