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Post by thewho on Aug 10, 2019 21:14:40 GMT -6
240 is my absolute favorite section because the music judges are situated in that box, so you will get the best sound. Furthermore, you're further up, so you will get tons of visual clarity. You'd be surprised at how much 2 feet makes a difference over 140.
If you want to save, get seats as far as back as possible in 140. I'm not a particular fan of 140 because the vantage point is low enough that the drill formation doesn't come quite across as clearly. Sound is roughly about same to my ears, but I feel the intensity of the noise is much higher in 140 than 240. If you want to avoid migraines, earplugs are helpful. I've also found 139-141 to be pretty popular among groups given the amount of seats, so you may need to get a bit lucky if you're bringing +1. Going alone opens up a loooooot of seats.
340 isn't too bad either, but good luck getting a seat in the front row. Not that it's too bad in the back either, but watching the field through a clear window is significantly more enjoyable than watching over heads. Unfortunately, you'll be right over the judges so you'll lose some sound up there.
440-640 has no semblance of sound whatsoever- you'd think there's barely a breeze up there while the people down at the field are flattened by the wall of sound. If drill is your thing, that's the best place to go. HOWEVER..... this is the "cheap" section that no one ever sits in, so it's readily available for large groups. I think a lot of bands end up sitting up there through preliminaries/semifinals after their performances.
You'll start losing sound clarity about 2 sections out from 140, so 135-138 and 142-145 and their respective higher sections. Be warned that the dropoff is fairly large in Lucas Oil based off of testimonies, similar to 440-640. If I'm not mistaken, I think this is because 1. the seats (especially when people are sitting in them) absorb a lot more of the sound than most places (concrete bleachers, etc.) and 2. the spaciousness of the stadium. The area isn't quite as confined compared to the RCA Dome- open roof instead a continuous roof, open entrances to field instead of doors, etc.
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Post by LeanderMomma on Aug 10, 2019 22:10:06 GMT -6
240 is my absolute favorite section because the music judges are situated in that box, so you will get the best sound. Furthermore, you're further up, so you will get tons of visual clarity. You'd be surprised at how much 2 feet makes a difference over 140. If you want to save, get seats as far as back as possible in 140. I'm not a particular fan of 140 because the vantage point is low enough that the drill formation doesn't come quite across as clearly. Sound is roughly about same to my ears, but I feel the intensity of the noise is much higher in 140 than 240. If you want to avoid migraines, earplugs are helpful. I've also found 139-141 to be pretty popular among groups given the amount of seats, so you may need to get a bit lucky if you're bringing +1. Going alone opens up a loooooot of seats. 340 isn't too bad either, but good luck getting a seat in the front row. Not that it's too bad in the back either, but watching the field through a clear window is significantly more enjoyable than watching over heads. Unfortunately, you'll be right over the judges so you'll lose some sound up there. 440-640 has no semblance of sound whatsoever- you'd think there's barely a breeze up there while the people down at the field are flattened by the wall of sound. If drill is your thing, that's the best place to go. HOWEVER..... this is the "cheap" section that no one ever sits in, so it's readily available for large groups. I think a lot of bands end up sitting up there through preliminaries/semifinals after their performances. You'll start losing sound clarity about 2 sections out from 140, so 135-138 and 142-145 and their respective higher sections. Be warned that the dropoff is fairly large in Lucas Oil based off of testimonies, similar to 440-640. If I'm not mistaken, I think this is because 1. the seats (especially when people are sitting in them) absorb a lot more of the sound than most places (concrete bleachers, etc.) and 2. the spaciousness of the stadium. The area isn't quite as confined compared to the RCA Dome- open roof instead a continuous roof, open entrances to field instead of doors, etc. Thank you SO much! This is fantastic information. When we went with Leander in 2016 we sat so high up it was nearly impossible to see or hear anything at all. Truly terrible. What on earth is the point of EVER having stadium seats so freakin high up? It’s just plain awful and yet they charge you for the privilege! Ummm...no. Never again if I can help it. |
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Post by supersound on Aug 14, 2019 10:24:44 GMT -6
I just got curious, If Marian Catholic doesn’t make finals and assuming they place first in the AA Class would they perform in exhibition instead of the A Class Champion?
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Post by paddy on Aug 14, 2019 10:34:48 GMT -6
I just got curious, If Marian Catholic doesn’t make finals and assuming they place first in the AA Class would they perform in exhibition instead of the A Class Champion? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The way I understand it from last year's rules... The top 12 regardless of class advance. If the class champion doesn't make finals on score they get to perform in exhibition. So if MC is the AA champion and doesn't make finals they perform in finals exhibition. If the class A champion doesn't make finals they will also perform in finals exhibition. There can be more than 1 class champion exhibition performance. Of course I may also be wrong. |
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Post by dbalash on Aug 14, 2019 11:54:18 GMT -6
I just got curious, If Marian Catholic doesn’t make finals and assuming they place first in the AA Class would they perform in exhibition instead of the A Class Champion? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The way I understand it from last year's rules... The top 12 regardless of class advance. If the class champion doesn't make finals on score they get to perform in exhibition. So if MC is the AA champion and doesn't make finals they perform in finals exhibition. If the class A champion doesn't make finals they will also perform in finals exhibition. There can be more than 1 class champion exhibition performance. Of course I may also be wrong. This is correct. Whatever class champions (A, AA, AAA) don't make top 12 will perform in finals exhibition. |
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Post by boahistorybuff on Aug 16, 2019 4:19:09 GMT -6
So far, 2002 and 2004 have been the only years in which the Class AA Champion failed to make finals. In both of those years, two bands (2A and 1A class champs) performed in exhibition.
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Post by LeanderMomma on Aug 16, 2019 5:58:45 GMT -6
So far, 2002 and 2004 have been the only years in which the Class AA Champion failed to make finals. In both of those years, two bands (2A and 1A class champs) performed in exhibition. You know what’s crazy? I can’t remember a time in recent years when a 2A band EVER made finals in San Antonio. I’m not sure it’s ever happened?? |
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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on Aug 16, 2019 6:15:26 GMT -6
So far, 2002 and 2004 have been the only years in which the Class AA Champion failed to make finals. In both of those years, two bands (2A and 1A class champs) performed in exhibition. You know what’s crazy? I can’t remember a time in recent years when a 2A band EVER made finals in San Antonio. I’m not sure it’s ever happened?? ----------------------------------- Too may huge schools in Texas, I imagine. But really, today how many AA schools can even hope to make Finals at GN's? Marian and Tarpon? That's pretty much it. Obviously Marian has carried the weight up to 2018, when Tarpon happened to be there to represent. Marian probably wouldn't have made finals at San Antonio in recent years, but Tarpon would. But if Marian doesn't bounce back you'll see a lot more years when the is no AA finalist at GN's. Bimm can't run that program forever. |
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Post by LeanderMomma on Aug 16, 2019 6:24:30 GMT -6
You know what’s crazy? I can’t remember a time in recent years when a 2A band EVER made finals in San Antonio. I’m not sure it’s ever happened?? ----------------------------------- Too may huge schools in Texas, I imagine. But really, today how many AA schools can even hope to make Finals at GN's? Marian and Tarpon? That's pretty much it. Obviously Marian has carried the weight up to 2018, when Tarpon happened to be there to represent. Marian probably wouldn't have made finals at San Antonio in recent years, but Tarpon would. But if Marian doesn't bounce back you'll see a lot more years when the is no AA finalist at GN's. Bimm can't run that program forever. Yeah, I’ll grant you that. The schools in general here are rather large. It would be near impossible for a 2A band to make finals at just about any Texas BOA competition really. But I would love to see it happen some day! I thought Bimm was retiring. And Tarpon is unfairly categorized as a 2A band in my opinion. Don’t they draw from several schools? Dang Disney kids.  |
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Post by dbalash on Aug 16, 2019 6:51:13 GMT -6
Yeah, I’ll grant you that. The schools in general here are rather large. It would be near impossible for a 2A band to make finals at just about any Texas BOA competition really. But I would love to see it happen some day! I thought Bimm was retiring. And Tarpon is unfairly categorized as a 2A band in my opinion. Don’t they draw from several schools? Dang Disney kids. Nope, Greg is still there for year 43. |
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Post by paddy on Aug 16, 2019 7:27:11 GMT -6
Yeah, I’ll grant you that. The schools in general here are rather large. It would be near impossible for a 2A band to make finals at just about any Texas BOA competition really. But I would love to see it happen some day! I thought Bimm was retiring. And Tarpon is unfairly categorized as a 2A band in my opinion. Don’t they draw from several schools? Dang Disney kids. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tarpon is a magnet school that draws from Pinellas County School Corp. which has ~100,000 students k-12 |
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Post by 18Saxes on Aug 16, 2019 8:49:52 GMT -6
So far, 2002 and 2004 have been the only years in which the Class AA Champion failed to make finals. In both of those years, two bands (2A and 1A class champs) performed in exhibition. You know what’s crazy? I can’t remember a time in recent years when a 2A band EVER made finals in San Antonio. I’m not sure it’s ever happened?? Everything’s bigger in Texas. |
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Post by LeanderMomma on Aug 16, 2019 10:08:02 GMT -6
You know what’s crazy? I can’t remember a time in recent years when a 2A band EVER made finals in San Antonio. I’m not sure it’s ever happened?? Everything’s bigger in Texas. You should see the cockroaches. 😳 |
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Post by LeanderMomma on Aug 16, 2019 10:10:31 GMT -6
Yeah, I’ll grant you that. The schools in general here are rather large. It would be near impossible for a 2A band to make finals at just about any Texas BOA competition really. But I would love to see it happen some day! I thought Bimm was retiring. And Tarpon is unfairly categorized as a 2A band in my opinion. Don’t they draw from several schools? Dang Disney kids. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tarpon is a magnet school that draws from Pinellas County School Corp. which has ~100,000 students k-12 Well there ya go. 😱 |
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Post by LeanderMomma on Aug 18, 2019 21:13:43 GMT -6
When are those darn tickets going to go on sale?
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Post by Allohak on Aug 19, 2019 1:32:39 GMT -6
When are those darn tickets going to go on sale? November 18th  |
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Post by LeanderMomma on Aug 19, 2019 6:20:37 GMT -6
When are those darn tickets going to go on sale? November 18th Oh shut up.  |
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Post by LeanderMomma on Aug 19, 2019 6:22:30 GMT -6
Seriously though, I NEED those tickets to go on sale. I’m afraid I’ll end up on top of the rafters like we did in 2016. Or the catwalk even. Truly awful seats.
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Post by marimba11 on Aug 19, 2019 15:22:04 GMT -6
Agreed Tarpon is unfairly a 2A band because we all know now that they’re really good kids want to come and be a part of the program from the county. But there were many years they were super small soon some ways they’ve earned it
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Post by paddy on Aug 19, 2019 18:39:30 GMT -6
Agreed Tarpon is unfairly a 2A band because we all know now that they’re really good kids want to come and be a part of the program from the county. But there were many years they were super small soon some ways they’ve earned it ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I’m not sure I am willing to say unfair, but they do have an advantage today. It is similar to letting the school corporations that feed Fishers, Carmel, Avon and Center Grove recruit to a small high school. I’m sure there are som kids that won’t go there because performing arts isn’t there path, but there will be some talent. |
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Post by thewho on Aug 20, 2019 10:28:05 GMT -6
FWIW, BOA went through some staff restructuring. This was back in mid-July or so, so I don't know if they're still sorting out the logistics or dealing with the aftermath.
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Post by LeanderMomma on Aug 20, 2019 12:56:48 GMT -6
FWIW, BOA went through some staff restructuring. This was back in mid-July or so, so I don't know if they're still sorting out the logistics or dealing with the aftermath. I wonder if this is part of the reason ticket sales are so late this year. |
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Post by thewho on Aug 20, 2019 15:35:38 GMT -6
FWIW, BOA went through some staff restructuring. This was back in mid-July or so, so I don't know if they're still sorting out the logistics or dealing with the aftermath. I wonder if this is part of the reason ticket sales are so late this year. I wouldn't be surprised if it was. To be fair, I think the tickets were a bit late too last year, like mid-September or something. |
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Post by LeanderMomma on Aug 20, 2019 16:20:53 GMT -6
Tickets are out!
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Post by Allohak on Aug 20, 2019 17:10:44 GMT -6
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Post by warehouse314 on Aug 21, 2019 10:31:22 GMT -6
Just took a look on Ticketmaster for Finals seats and there don't seem to be many options in the 300 and 400 level areas. I've always gotten our tickets about 3 weeks before Finals, and never had a problem getting something in Section 337/437... or something similar on the other end of the field. But those sections aren't even showing up as an option. Does anyone happen to know if they hold off seating areas for competing schools first and then open them back up for others... is that why the majority of the sections aren't showing up as being available right now? |
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Post by Allohak on Aug 21, 2019 11:01:12 GMT -6
Just took a look on Ticketmaster for Finals seats and there don't seem to be many options in the 300 and 400 level areas. I've always gotten our tickets about 3 weeks before Finals, and never had a problem getting something in Section 337/437... or something similar on the other end of the field. But those sections aren't even showing up as an option. Does anyone happen to know if they hold off seating areas for competing schools first and then open them back up for others... is that why the majority of the sections aren't showing up as being available right now? Probably. After all, the target audience for BOA is the students they serve, so making sure student groups can reserve a section is certainly a priority. |
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Post by supersound on Sept 7, 2019 18:21:35 GMT -6
Maybe too early predictions but after a few clips show reveals and all of that good stuff I think this is a very possible outcome. Very possible.
1.Claudia Taylor Johnson
2.Carmel
3.Vandegrift
4.Hebron
5.Avon
6.Leander
7.Homestead
8.Round Rock
9.The Woodlands
10.William Mason
11.Marian Catholic
12.Center Grove
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13.Union
14.Park Vista
15.Lawrence Township
16Ayala
17.Rockford
Notes:
•Top six no matter the order will be extremely close. Don’t take Avon being in fifth as a sign of extreme decline, it’s just this years competition is insane.
•All the bands 13-17 All have chances to make finals. All of them. They’re there for a reason they’re all extremely strong groups that with the right performance can skyrocket. I’m predicting a big jump for Lawrence Township this year by the way.
•This is probably one of the most competitive grand nationals we’ve seen in years. An outstanding band can end up in seventh or eleventh. Like I’ve stated before it’s crazy close. Imagine if Broken Arrow, Blue Springs, Jenks And Flower Mound showed up that would be a bloodbath we’re lucky we can get a good three places this year for bands to sneak in at least with some those big hitters staying home.
•This is an unpredictable competition. There will be surprises. I want every band attending to know you’ve got all of our full supports. You’re all amazing.
•The reason for my medalist predictions are as following:
Claudia Taylor Johnson (1st) : The clips making rounds are no joke. They’re up to an insane level before any Texan band even takes the field for competition. From what I’ve seen the show seems like the whole package and yet it doesn’t feel like they’re overdoing it. They’ve got a ton of theatrics but the sounds we’ve heard from this group are insane. Their marching teqnuiches we’ve seen while they aren’t perfect are still insane and it’s still crazy early. With a later grand nationals this year they have the time to polish this after a successful San Antonio run with critiques from thei fresh on their mind. Would not be surprised AT ALL if they won.
•Carmel (2nd) This group hasn’t perfected the BOA Style show. We all know about how amazing of a group they are. I don’t see them falling too much because of all the Texan bands but I can’t see them taking first. I don’t think they can match CTJ music-wise but visual wise they are still a force to be reckoned with. A nice show like they’ve done in the past two years will set them up for a comfortable silver medal, that is if they don’t go too all out with a show that the performers can’t deliver on which I doubt they will.
•Vandegrift (3rd) this is more of a gut feeling to be honest but after seeing their show and clips from it I can’t not put them in the top five. They have the musical abilities and visual abilities already. Combined Aria Of The Night can become a beautiful show with great techniques and strong music. I think it’s not one specific thing that’ll bring them to a medal but a combination of all their strengths. They’re going to bring a full package with a nice balance of music and marching and wrapping it with a very possible medal.
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Post by LeanderMomma on Sept 7, 2019 19:59:48 GMT -6
Yeah....I’m not really following your reasoning. I see so many flaws in this list I don’t even know where to start. Round Rock ahead of TWHS? Vandy medaling their first trip before we’ve even seen anything from Carmel or Avon? I just don’t know. It’s way too soon. I think after BOA Austin, DFW and some key Midwest comps, we will be much more likely to have a decent guess. But it’s fun to try and predict, I know. You could be dead on.
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Post by yayband914 on Sept 7, 2019 20:11:31 GMT -6
•This is probably one of the most competitive grand nationals we’ve seen in years. In the top 20? Definitely. In the top 21-35? Yes. But the bottom half to two thirds are pretty weak overall. This year is incredibly bottom-heavy. Unlike 2016 where you had almost 50 bands that could have made semis alone. |
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