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Post by hewhowaits on Sept 26, 2022 14:59:54 GMT -6
Is there ever a judging discrepancy between panel 1 and panel 2? It seems like it could be hard for the 2 groups to be judged equally. Different panels will have different takes and there is likely to be some chatter about one panel being "tougher" than the other. We usually have some debate about whether scores for a particular panel are "inflated" or not.
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Post by abtwitch on Sept 26, 2022 15:05:35 GMT -6
By the way, no I am not backing down from my Lake Travis take.
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Post by redteam1114 on Sept 26, 2022 15:16:18 GMT -6
Bands that dropped since 07/19:Bellevue West H.S., NE Mahomet-Seymour H.S., IL Morton H.S., IL Nevada H.S., MO Oak Ridge H.S., TX Bands that joined since 07/19:East Peoria Community H.S., IL Fort Zumwalt West H.S., MO Hard to see Bellevue West, Morton, and Oak Ridge out. All were finals contenders this year, IMO. Watching Bellevue West this past weekend, it was clear that they have both a stronger group and show compared to last year. Love their concept and the presentation both musically and visually, and they definitely deserved the bronze placing in Iowa. Darn shame we won't get to see the final product on a big stage like this 😕
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Post by bigtrombone on Sept 26, 2022 15:47:18 GMT -6
My Predictions as of 9/26 (in no particular order). Feel free to tell me why I'm wrong. Panel 1 Top 5:Blue Springs H.S., MO Lake Travis H.S., TX Marian Catholic H.S., IL Bentonville H.S., AR Millard West H.S., NE (Bold prediction I know but don't sleep on these guys) Panel 2 Top 5:
Broken Arrow H.S., OK Mustang H.S., OK Grain Valley H.S., MO L.D. Bell H.S., TX O'Fallon Township H.S., IL Next 4 Highest Scoring:Lincoln H.S., SD (Panel 2) Lakota West H.S., OH (Panel 2) Papillion-La Vista South H.S., NE (Panel 1) Blue Springs South H.S., NE (Panel 1) Class Champions:A: Sullivan H.S., MO AA: Grain Valley H.S., MO AAA: Blue Springs H.S., MO AAAA: Broken Arrow H.S., OK
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Post by supersound on Sept 26, 2022 15:47:23 GMT -6
Oak Ridge has dropped out.
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Post by yayband914 on Sept 26, 2022 16:40:25 GMT -6
Oak Ridge has dropped out. We been knew. 😉 (Was posted earlier.)
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Post by ilikeguard on Sept 26, 2022 17:46:13 GMT -6
Millard West H.S., NE (Bold prediction I know but don't sleep on these guys) This is how I feel about Edwardsville! I haven't seen Millard West yet, but all of the Millard programs look to be pretty solid. I don't think I'll be disappointed.
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Post by nomorehoney on Sept 26, 2022 20:19:45 GMT -6
Millard West H.S., NE (Bold prediction I know but don't sleep on these guys) This is how I feel about Edwardsville! I haven't seen Millard West yet, but all of the Millard programs look to be pretty solid. I don't think I'll be disappointed. I have a feeling both Edwardsville and Normal will break the top 20! I hope to see either or both in finals, especially now that some other finalist-contender groups have dropped.
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Post by nomorehoney on Sept 26, 2022 20:36:20 GMT -6
Since I'm all hyped up, I'll once again post some predictions
Broken Arrow ======== Blue Springs ======================== Lake Travis, O'Fallon Township, LD Bell ================== Mustang, Grain Valley, Lincoln ========================= Bentonville, Marian Catholic, Lakota West =============================== (Bubble) Yukon, Normal, Edwardsville, Fayetteville
More bubble groups: Millard West, Fort Zumwalt North, Millard North, Papillion-La Vista South, Prospect, Nixa
If I had to take a crack at how it would all shake out:
Music: Broken Arrow Visual: Broken Arrow GE: Broken Arrow
1. Broken Arrow 2. Blue Springs 3. Lake Travis 4. O'Fallon Township 5. LD Bell 6. Mustang 7. Grain Valley 8. Lincoln 9. Bentonville 10. Lakota West 11. Marian Catholic 12. Yukon 13. Normal 14. Edwardsville
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Post by principalagent on Sept 27, 2022 16:11:29 GMT -6
I saw a video of Blue Springs at a recent football game, and I gotta say, I was really impressed. The kids are handling their show like champs, and even from a football game video that band is far and away the best they've ever sounded. If BA is anything like last year, I'm not sure it's enough--I'm actually pretty sure it won't be. But if BA is more 2017 level, and especially if they're 2018 level, BA's winning streak here could be in serious danger. Even more so because Blue Springs can pace their season to mid-October this year instead of Mid-November.
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Post by dbalash on Sept 27, 2022 18:57:41 GMT -6
Interesting side note regarding Edwardsville... last weekend at the Eastern Illinois Panther Marching band Festival, they were third in their class, behind Belleville East and Granite City, and it wasn't particularly close.
I'll post full scores tonight or early tomorrow.
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Post by nomorehoney on Sept 27, 2022 21:32:59 GMT -6
Interesting side note regarding Edwardsville... last weekend at the Eastern Illinois Panther Marching band Festival, they were third in their class, behind Belleville East and Granite City, and it wasn't particularly close. I'll post full scores tonight or early tomorrow. Don't tell me that... I'm going to cry
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Post by ilikeguard on Sept 27, 2022 22:33:15 GMT -6
Interesting side note regarding Edwardsville... last weekend at the Eastern Illinois Panther Marching band Festival, they were third in their class, behind Belleville East and Granite City, and it wasn't particularly close. I'll post full scores tonight or early tomorrow. Don't tell me that... I'm going to cry This message is so me
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Post by glass on Sept 27, 2022 23:21:44 GMT -6
Interesting side note regarding Edwardsville... last weekend at the Eastern Illinois Panther Marching band Festival, they were third in their class, behind Belleville East and Granite City, and it wasn't particularly close. I'll post full scores tonight or early tomorrow. Edwardsville were supposed to be the chosen ones... some day we Illinoisans will have another nationally competitive band
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Post by dbalash on Sept 29, 2022 16:04:12 GMT -6
Hoping MFA releases the schedule this week. Hoping CompetitionSuite updates the classification of a certain band. *cough* Now they're just screwing with us.
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Post by srv1084 on Sept 29, 2022 18:07:55 GMT -6
Hoping CompetitionSuite updates the classification of a certain band. *cough* Now they're just screwing with us. Have seen some others also updated to "Chamber" today (whatever that means...).
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Post by bigtrombone on Sept 29, 2022 20:36:54 GMT -6
Does anyone know how Prospect is doing? Historically, they've done pretty well in St. Louis yet not many of us have put them in our finals predictions.
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Post by nomorehoney on Sept 29, 2022 21:40:25 GMT -6
Does anyone know how Prospect is doing? Historically, they've done pretty well in St. Louis yet not many of us have put them in our finals predictions. Haven't heard much about them this season. The only thing keeping them out of my finals predictions is their placement at ISU last year (under VJA, John Hersey, and Edwardsville)
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Post by marimba11 on Sept 29, 2022 23:34:05 GMT -6
I saw a video of Blue Springs at a recent football game, and I gotta say, I was really impressed. The kids are handling their show like champs, and even from a football game video that band is far and away the best they've ever sounded. If BA is anything like last year, I'm not sure it's enough--I'm actually pretty sure it won't be. But if BA is more 2017 level, and especially if they're 2018 level, BA's winning streak here could be in serious danger. Even more so because Blue Springs can pace their season to mid-October this year instead of Mid-November. You think? I really like the show a lot (more so than 21’ and 19’) but it’s pretty park n bark again.
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Post by dbalash on Sept 30, 2022 7:00:03 GMT -6
Does anyone know how Prospect is doing? Historically, they've done pretty well in St. Louis yet not many of us have put them in our finals predictions. First competition (http://ilmarching.com/scores_indiv.php?FestivalID=1100&archive=0) they beat Greendale by almost 2 points, 2nd competition at NIU was rained out for their class. They host their competition this weekend.
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Post by trumpette123 on Sept 30, 2022 18:21:25 GMT -6
I saw a video of Blue Springs at a recent football game, and I gotta say, I was really impressed. The kids are handling their show like champs, and even from a football game video that band is far and away the best they've ever sounded. If BA is anything like last year, I'm not sure it's enough--I'm actually pretty sure it won't be. But if BA is more 2017 level, and especially if they're 2018 level, BA's winning streak here could be in serious danger. Even more so because Blue Springs can pace their season to mid-October this year instead of Mid-November. You think? I really like the show a lot (more so than 21’ and 19’) but it’s pretty park n bark again. I agree, their visual program tends to carry their shows. Vento does a really good job at getting the kids to get their visuals to the box. Tomorrow it’ll still feel like they just have the drill on the field. Not that visuals = marching. But I’m sure it’ll not feel as stale by this show.
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Post by ilikeguard on Oct 3, 2022 8:59:29 GMT -6
Southmoore is definitely in the finals conversation after this week, and to a lesser degree, so is Nixa. Southmoore is playing like a top half band.
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Post by bigtrombone on Oct 3, 2022 9:09:58 GMT -6
My Predictions as of 10/3 (in no particular order). Feel free to tell me why I'm wrong. Panel 1 Top 5:Blue Springs H.S., MO Lake Travis H.S., TX Marian Catholic H.S., IL Bentonville H.S., AR Millard West H.S., NE (Bold prediction I know but don't sleep on these guys) Panel 2 Top 5:
Broken Arrow H.S., OK Mustang H.S., OK Grain Valley H.S., MO L.D. Bell H.S., TX O'Fallon Township H.S., IL Next 4 Highest Scoring:Lincoln H.S., SD (Panel 2) Lakota West H.S., OH (Panel 2) Blue Springs South H.S., NE (Panel 1) Southmoore H.S., OK (Panel 2) Class Champions:A: Sullivan H.S., MO AA: Grain Valley H.S., MO AAA: Blue Springs H.S., MO AAAA: Broken Arrow H.S., OK Amended following this past weekend.
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Post by hewhowaits on Oct 3, 2022 14:54:27 GMT -6
Adjudication Panel (Panel 1 and Panel 2 to be announced later)
Music - Martin Griffin, Allan Kristensen, Jager Loyde, Mark McGahey, Joni Perez, Caleb Rothe, Kim Shuttlesworth, W.L. Whaley Visual - Lee Carlson, Jackie Gilley, Tim Landess, Tim Ochran, Jim Sturgeon, John Turner Chief Judge - Nola Jones
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Post by Momof20613 on Oct 5, 2022 14:50:40 GMT -6
I know you can buy tickets online for St Louis, but can you buy them at the gate? Do they sell out?
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Post by hewhowaits on Oct 5, 2022 18:21:24 GMT -6
I know you can buy tickets online for St Louis, but can you buy them at the gate? Do they sell out? Tickets will certainly be available on site. The biggest advantage to purchasing online ahead of time is improving your chance of getting seats where you prefer them.
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Post by coleeich on Oct 5, 2022 19:20:31 GMT -6
Since I am on a bold predictions kick tonight, here are some bold predictions for St. Louis (official placement predictions to come next week sometime): - Mustang in 3rd - Yukon and Southmoore make finals - L.D. Bell in the bottom half - Bentonville in the top half Goodnight
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Post by dbalash on Oct 8, 2022 16:33:17 GMT -6
Marian Catholic has dropped. They will be attending Lincoln-Way instead and going up against Morton.
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Post by redteam1114 on Oct 8, 2022 16:44:12 GMT -6
Marian Catholic has dropped. They will be attending Lincoln-Way instead and going up against Morton. Wait, if that brings it down to 64 bands, doesn't that now not meet the minimum threshold for 2 panels being necessary for prelims? Anyone that knows feel free to correct me if I'm wrong
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Post by yayband914 on Oct 8, 2022 16:49:24 GMT -6
OFFICIAL PRELIMS SCHEDULE AS OF 10/11
FRIDAY
Panel 2 11:30 - Wentzville-Liberty H.S., MO 11:45 - East Peoria Community H.S., IL 12:00 - Wright City H.S., MO 12:15 - Windsor H.S., MO 12:30 - Belleville East H.S., IL 12:45 - Danville H.S., IL 1:00 - Collinsville H.S., IL 1:15 - Yukon H.S, OK 1:30 - David H. Hickman H.S., MO 1:45 - Fort Zumwalt West H.S., MO 2:00 - Cape Girardeau Central H.S., MO 2:15 - Granite City H.S., IL
BREAK
Panel 1 3:00 - Francis Howell North H.S., MO 3:15 - Francis Howell Central H.S., MO 3:30 - Marquette H.S., MO 3:45 - Wentzville Holt H.S., MO 4:00 - Parkway South H.S., MO 4:15 - Monticello H.S., IL 4:30 - Lindbergh H.S., MO 4:45 - Timberland H.S., MO 5:00 - Normal H.S., IL 5:15 - Parkway Central H.S., MO 5:30 - Fort Zumwalt North H.S., MO 5:45 - Southmoore H.S., OK 6:00 - O'Fallon Township H.S., IL
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Panel 2 6:45 - Mascoutah H.S., IL 7:00 - Edwardsville H.S., IL 7:15 - Oakville H.S., MO 7:30 - Blue Springs H.S., MO 7:45 - Millard West H.S., NE 8:00 - Sullivan H.S., MO 8:15 - Herscher H.S., IL 8:30 - Lafayette H.S., MO 8:45 - Blue Springs South H.S., MO 9:00 - Lake Travis H.S., TX 9:15 - Rockwood Summit H.S., MO 9:30 - Hernando H.S., MS
SATURDAY
Panel 1 8:00 - L.D. Bell H.S., TX 8:15 - Bentonville West H.S., AR 8:30 - Washington H.S., MO 8:45 - Lakota West H.S., OH 9:00 - Fayetteville H.S., AR 9:15 - Lincoln H.S., SD 9:30 - Berryhill H.S., OK
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Panel 2 10:15 - Francis Howell H.S., MO 10:30 - Hollister H.S., MO 10:45 - Willard H.S., MO 11:00 - Millard North H.S., NE 11:15 - Huntley H.S., IL 11:30 - Russell County H.S., KY 11:45 - Bentonville H.S., AR
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Panel 1 12:30 - Papillion-La Vista South H.S., NE 12:45 - Bryant H.S., AR 1:00 - Lake Park H.S., IL 1:15 - Limestone Community H.S., IL 1:30 - Mustang H.S., OK 1:45 - Germantown H.S., MS 2:00 - Nixa H.S., MO 2:15 - Prospect H.S., IL 2:30 - Plainfield North H.S., IL 2:45 - Grain Valley H.S., MO 3:00 - Broken Arrow H.S., OK
3:15 - Ex. Univ. of Arkansas at Pine Bluff
A Berryhill H.S., OK Herscher H.S., IL Hollister H.S., MO Monticello H.S., IL Sullivan H.S., MO Windsor H.S., MO Wright City H.S., MO
AA Cape Girardeau Central H.S., MO Danville H.S., IL East Peoria Community H.S., IL Fort Zumwalt North H.S., MO Francis Howell Central H.S., MO Francis Howell North H.S., MO Germantown H.S., MS Grain Valley H.S., MO Hernando H.S., MS Lafayette H.S., MO Limestone Community H.S., IL Mascoutah H.S., IL Oakville H.S., MO Parkway Central H.S., MO Parkway South H.S., MO Rockwood Summit H.S., MO Russell County H.S., KY Timberland H.S., MO Washington H.S., MO Wentzville Libery H.S., MO Willard H.S., MO
AAA Bentonville West H.S., AR Blue Springs H.S., MO Blue Springs South H.S., MO Collinsville H.S., IL David H. Hickman H.S., MO Edwardsville H.S., IL Fort Zumwalt West H.S., MO Francis Howell H.S., MO Granite City H.S., IL Lincoln H.S., SD Lindbergh H.S., MO Marquette H.S., MO Millard West H.S., NE Nixa H.S., MO Papillion-La Vista South H.S., NE Plainfield North H.S., IL Prospect H.S., IL Southmoore H.S., OK Wentzville Holt H.S., MO
AAAA Belleville East H.S., IL Bentonville H.S., AR Broken Arrow H.S., OK Bryant H.S., AR Fayetteville H.S., AR Huntley H.S., IL L.D. Bell H.S., TX Lake Park H.S., IL Lake Travis H.S., TX Lakota West H.S., OH Millard North H.S., NE Mustang H.S., OK Normal H.S., IL O’Fallon Township H.S., IL Yukon H.S., OK
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