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Post by N.E. Brigand on Nov 5, 2022 22:37:27 GMT -6
Who's trippin' down the streets of the city Smilin' at everybody she sees? Who's reachin' out to capture a moment? Everyone knows. "It's Windy!" Very, very windy for most of the day. Many of Cloverleaf's trees blew over. Some rolled right off the field onto the track. Indian Valley had a pretty sturdy firebird prop backfield. Halfway through their show, it blew over. They also had a flying firebird tarp that was supposed to sail over the band at the end of the show. It only got about a third of the way across the field before the wind pushed it back down onto the band. After that, OMEA told the remaining bands: no props that can be knocked down by the wind. And while they told the judges to make allowances for that, I don't think all the judges has already seen all the shows, so how could they imagine what they didn't know was supposed to be there? Mind you, I can't think of a better solution. It was very windy. Also, early in the day, just as Coventry was about to start their show, the city of Medina tested their tornado siren. Coventry had to hold for at least three minutes. It was very loud. Better that it happened then than during the middle of a band's show! Then OMEA's announcer, who's usually very good about such technicalities, forgot to turn off his microphone after making a second announcement before Coventry started thanking everyone (and especially Coventry) for their patience. So we could hear him making lunch plans. I ran over to the press box to say something, but he had caught the problem before I got there. It was probably less than 15 seconds. Returning to my seat, I found that my seat cushion had blown away: literally blown out of the stadium. I had to leave the grounds to get it during the next break. It was very windy.
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Nov 5, 2022 23:13:45 GMT -6
I thought there were a lot of edge cases today: bands that could get either a I or a II -- and in several such instances, the judges and I parted ways.
In simplistic terms, a band needs a score of 80 out of 100 to get a I. (At state finals, there actually are no scores, so a band needs three out of five judges to determine that they would award a score of 80 if there were scores.) Of 27 bands today, I would have scored 17 between 78 and 82. There were three bands in a row that I put down at 79.8, 79.9, and 79.6, yet the judges gave them each a I. But there were three other bands that I would have scored 80, 80.1, and 80.5, and the judges gave each of them a II.
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Post by ohioguy2 on Nov 6, 2022 7:26:17 GMT -6
Saturday’s Straight 1s were Cloverleaf, Norton, St. Clairsville, Heath, and Brunswick.
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Nov 6, 2022 9:05:58 GMT -6
Saturday’s Straight 1s were Cloverleaf, Norton, St. Clairsville, Heath, and Brunswick. If there were scores at state finals, I'd say that some of those bands were much closer than others to the 80 cut-off. Did Nordonia get a II in guard? In my notes yesterday, I predicted they wouldn't be on this list for that reason.
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Post by neop on Nov 6, 2022 13:39:53 GMT -6
Saturday’s Straight 1s were Cloverleaf, Norton, St. Clairsville, Heath, and Brunswick. Wow, go Heath!!
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Post by neop on Nov 6, 2022 13:45:12 GMT -6
OMEA SMBF Day 4 - Piqua 11/6
Time
| Band
| Last Appearance
| 2022 RATING
| 1:00 PM
| Clinton-Massie (B)
| 2021 (II - B)
| II
| 1:15 PM
| John Glenn (B)
| 2021 (I - B)
| I
| 1:30 PM
| Walter E. Stebbins (A)
| 2021 (I - A)
| II
| 1:45 PM
| Edgewood (A)
| 2021 (I - A)
| I
| 2:00 PM
| Springfield (A)
| 2021 (I - A)
| II
| 2:15 PM
| Athens (A)
| 2021 (I - A)
| II
| 2:30 PM
| Miamisburg (AA)
| 2021 (I - AA)
| I
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| 3:00 PM
| London (B)
| 2021 (II - B)
| I
| 3:15 PM
| Versailles (B)
| 2021 (I - B)
| I
| 3:30 PM
| Piqua (A)
| 2021 (I - A)
| I
| 3:45 PM
| Kings (AA)
| 2021 (I - AA)
| I
| 4:00 PM
| Forest Hills (AA)
| 2021 (I - AA)
| I
| 4:15 PM
| Lakota East (AA)
| 2021 (I - AA)
| I
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| 4:45 PM
| Kalida (C)
| 2021 (II - C)
| I
| 5:00 PM
| Lynchburg-Clay (C)
| 2021 (I - C)
| I
| 5:15 PM
| Carlisle (B)
| 2021 (II - B)
| II
| 5:30 PM
| Logan Elm (B)
| 2021 (I - B)
| I
| 5:45 PM
| Tippecanoe (A)
| 2021 (I - A)
| II
| 6:00 PM
| Canal Winchester (AA)
| 2021 (II - AA)
| I
| 6:15 PM
| Hamilton (AA)
| 2021 (I - AA)
| I
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| 6:45 PM
| Fort Recovery (C)
| 2021 (II - C)
| II
| 7:00 PM
| Arcanum (B)
| 2021 (I - B)
| I
| 7:15 PM
| Northwest (B)
| 2019 (II - B)
| I
| 7:30 PM
| Finneytown (B)
| 2021 (I - B)
| I
| 7:45 PM
| Wilmington (A)
| 2021 (I - A)
| I
| 8:00 PM
| Ross (A)
| 2021 (II - A)
| I
| 8:15 PM
| Marysville (AA)
| 2021 (I - AA)
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Post by neop on Nov 6, 2022 15:37:51 GMT -6
Since I've never seen a band be announced as receiving a III at state, does anyone know if they still announce it the same way as a I or II? Do they say "Three, Good! Congratulations!" just like they would announce a "Two, Excellent! Congratulations!" or a "One, Superior! Congratulations!"? I can't imagine how else they would do it, but I still can't picture it. I also can't help but speculate that the almost complete lack of IIIs at state since 2007 is representative of an ideological shift on OMEA's part.
Yes, that's how they do it: "Three, Good! Congratulations!" Since I wasn't following OMEA closely in the aughts, I can't say whether there was a shift. If there was, it may have been that they tightened up expectations in the local shows so as to keep erratic, potentially merely "Good" bands from advancing. Since I started attending every day of state in 2014, the only band I saw that I thought was going to get a III was the one that actually did. London's 76.5 at Worthington seems about right to me, so pending a disastrous run, I think they're probably safe, but we'll see! Last year there was a band who scored in the high 80s on the final regular season weekend, winning G.E. at that event, and then at state the next week, both G.E. judges gave them a II, putting them closer to an overall II than they probably expected. (Their consistency in performance saved them.) London does at least have another nine days to polish. Well then!
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Post by neop on Nov 6, 2022 19:40:44 GMT -6
And that's that! The final tally is 84 Is and 36 IIs. That is an unprecedented 70% superiors, eclipsing 2021's 68%. I thought the judges were a bit too generous this year, but I am happy that so many students achieved their ultimate OMEA goals.
As for my predictions, I incorrectly predicted that there would be 68 Is and 52 IIs.
Bands I predicted to get a I that received a II:
Marion Harding New Philadelphia
Springfield Tri-Valley Rossford
Bands I predicted to get a II that received a I:
Arcanum Black River Bloom Carroll Deer Park Delaware Hayes Dublin Scioto Edgewood Grove City Christian Hamilton Heath Highland Kalida London Lynchburg-Clay Meadowbrook Northwest Perry Philo Reynoldsburg Rock Hill St. John's Jesuit
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Post by rlrrll on Nov 6, 2022 19:57:22 GMT -6
And that's that! The final tally is 84 Is and 36 IIs. That is an unprecedented 70% superiors, eclipsing 2021's 68%. I thought the judges were a bit too generous this year, but I am happy that so many students achieved their ultimate OMEA goals.
As for my predictions, I incorrectly predicted that there would be 68 Is and 52 IIs.
Bands I predicted to get a I that received a II:
Marion Harding New Philadelphia
Springfield Tri-Valley Rossford
Bands I predicted to get a II that received a I:
Arcanum Black River Bloom Carroll Deer Park Delaware Hayes Dublin Scioto Edgewood Grove City Christian Hamilton Heath Highland Kalida London Lynchburg-Clay Meadowbrook Northwest Perry Philo Reynoldsburg Rock Hill St. John's Jesuit
Well I won't go into my personal feelings on the rating system and how the sheets are exactly the same so if your performances was superior to get you there, how is it not superior now? Sure there could be a few one-offs like bands who were gifted ones that didn't deserve them by a bad judging panel or bad performances but under normal reasoning you should theoretically see 95% Superior ratings.
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Post by neop on Nov 6, 2022 20:05:00 GMT -6
And that's that! The final tally is 84 Is and 36 IIs. That is an unprecedented 70% superiors, eclipsing 2021's 68%. I thought the judges were a bit too generous this year, but I am happy that so many students achieved their ultimate OMEA goals. As for my predictions, I incorrectly predicted that there would be 68 Is and 52 IIs.
Bands I predicted to get a I that received a II:
Marion Harding New Philadelphia
Springfield Tri-Valley Rossford Bands I predicted to get a II that received a I: Arcanum Black River Bloom Carroll Deer Park Delaware Hayes Dublin Scioto Edgewood Grove City Christian Hamilton Heath Highland Kalida London Lynchburg-Clay Meadowbrook Northwest Perry Philo Reynoldsburg Rock Hill St. John's Jesuit
Well I won't go into my personal feelings on the rating system and how the sheets are exactly the same so if your performances was superior to get you there, how is it not superior now? Sure there could be a few one-offs like bands who were gifted ones that didn't deserve them by a bad judging panel or bad performances but under normal reasoning you should theoretically see 95% Superior ratings. That's entirely fair! I always thought that the idea was to be significantly tougher on judging at state versus at local shows. At least, that's how it was presented to me in high school. We were told that a Superior rating in any caption at state, while technically requiring an "80", would actually require the same effort as scoring an 85 in that same caption at a local show. It would probably be a good idea to solidify some idea of how much tougher to be, exactly, if they haven't done it already.
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Post by rlrrll on Nov 6, 2022 21:30:39 GMT -6
Well I won't go into my personal feelings on the rating system and how the sheets are exactly the same so if your performances was superior to get you there, how is it not superior now? Sure there could be a few one-offs like bands who were gifted ones that didn't deserve them by a bad judging panel or bad performances but under normal reasoning you should theoretically see 95% Superior ratings. That's entirely fair! I always thought that the idea was to be significantly tougher on judging at state versus at local shows. At least, that's how it was presented to me in high school. We were told that a Superior rating in any caption at state, while technically requiring an "80", would actually require the same effort as scoring an 85 in that same caption at a local show. It would probably be a good idea to solidify some idea of how much tougher to be, exactly, if they haven't done it already. That's the idea but I don't feel it is right. The sheets are the same and the judging criteria is the same so why should someone's perception of what is considered "superior" be different? Groups generally don't get worse as the season goes along. If I was still a performer, I could go out and have my best show of the season and someone could tell me my show wasn't superior even though it was 2 weeks ago. The whole concept of judging "harder" because its state finals is ludicrous in theory. They don't change the rules of sports to make them harder because its the playoffs. Why change the rules of how we "do band" where it is nothing more than a festival format and everyone gets a participation award? This is all done after you pay your $300 fee for the right to perform at such a prestigious exhibition.
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Nov 7, 2022 0:21:14 GMT -6
In bold, my opinion about these bands when contrary to the judges' determination is: And that's that! The final tally is 84 Is and 36 IIs. That is an unprecedented 70% superiors, eclipsing 2021's 68%. I thought the judges were a bit too generous this year, but I am happy that so many students achieved their ultimate OMEA goals. As for my predictions, I incorrectly predicted that there would be 68 Is and 52 IIs. Bands I predicted to get a I that received a II:
Marion Harding - deserved a I New Philadelphia - deserved a I
Springfield Tri-Valley - deserved a I Rossford Bands I predicted to get a II that received a I: Arcanum Black River Bloom Carroll Deer Park Delaware Hayes Dublin Scioto Edgewood - deserved a II Grove City Christian - deserved a II Hamilton Heath Highland Kalida - deserved a II London - deserved a II Lynchburg-Clay Meadowbrook - deserved a II Northwest Perry Philo - deserved a II Reynoldsburg Rock Hill St. John's Jesuit - deserved a II
A number of these were close calls, in my view. For instance, I scored London, whom you mentioned in a separate post, at 79. Not hard to imagine three judges putting them above 80. I think I was slightly tougher than the judges overall (there are other bands besides those on our list where we disagreed, going both ways), but honestly, it was just a really good year at the lower end. I think the new five-judge system introduced last year probably makes it harder to qualify for state finals in the first place. (Last year, to account for the pandemic, a band only needed two Superiors to qualify.) The lowest score I put down was 74. Most previous years since I started attending every day of state finals in 2014, I had a few in the 70-72 range. No one seemed even close to earning a III this time. In general, state finals are a chance to prove that you didn't fluke into your berth. The sheets are the same -- just as they are the same in BOA between Prelims, Semifinals, and Finals, yet look how scores fluctuate between those events -- but judges are only human and having a separate round recognizes psychology. At any given local show, the average quality of the bands is lower, so a moderately better band can seem better than it is by comparison.
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Nov 7, 2022 0:23:05 GMT -6
I'd like the band with ten tubas who gives those tubas the melody at one point to work on the balance so we can actually hear that over all the stuff coming through the speakers, please.
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Post by ohioguy2 on Nov 7, 2022 4:27:59 GMT -6
Sunday’s Straight 1s were Miamisburg, Kings, Lakota East, Logan Elm, Hamilton, Finneytown, and Marysville
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Post by rlrrll on Nov 7, 2022 8:53:09 GMT -6
In bold, my opinion about these bands when contrary to the judges' determination is: And that's that! The final tally is 84 Is and 36 IIs. That is an unprecedented 70% superiors, eclipsing 2021's 68%. I thought the judges were a bit too generous this year, but I am happy that so many students achieved their ultimate OMEA goals. As for my predictions, I incorrectly predicted that there would be 68 Is and 52 IIs. Bands I predicted to get a I that received a II:
Marion Harding - deserved a I New Philadelphia - deserved a I
Springfield Tri-Valley - deserved a I Rossford Bands I predicted to get a II that received a I: Arcanum Black River Bloom Carroll Deer Park Delaware Hayes Dublin Scioto Edgewood - deserved a II Grove City Christian - deserved a II Hamilton Heath Highland Kalida - deserved a II London - deserved a II Lynchburg-Clay Meadowbrook - deserved a II Northwest Perry Philo - deserved a II Reynoldsburg Rock Hill St. John's Jesuit - deserved a II
A number of these were close calls, in my view. For instance, I scored London, whom you mentioned in a separate post, at 79. Not hard to imagine three judges putting them above 80. I think I was slightly tougher than the judges overall (there are other bands besides those on our list where we disagreed, going both ways), but honestly, it was just a really good year at the lower end. I think the new five-judge system introduced last year probably makes it harder to qualify for state finals in the first place. (Last year, to account for the pandemic, a band only needed two Superiors to qualify.) The lowest score I put down was 74. Most previous years since I started attending every day of state finals in 2014, I had a few in the 70-72 range. No one seemed even close to earning a III this time. In general, state finals are a chance to prove that you didn't fluke into your berth. The sheets are the same -- just as they are the same in BOA between Prelims, Semifinals, and Finals, yet look how scores fluctuate between those events -- but judges are only human and having a separate round recognizes psychology. At any given local show, the average quality of the bands is lower, so a moderately better band can seem better than it is by comparison.I see your point but I don't think comparing a competitive scoring system to a festival scoring system is really the same. In the competitive system such as BOA, numbers given by a panel are relative and placements are more important. The OMEA system of rankings is a bit more liberal because you aren't and shouldn't be comparing the bands directly to each other. Numbers can be used to rank them in the competition season but as long as judges manage their numbers correctly numbers should still fall into the broader rating scale. If a band got their Superior rating by being the best mediocre band at a rural Ohio competition that failure is on the judges for inflating numbers just to be nice to lesser bands. Regardless of surrounding competition, if you have bad intonation, poor feet, no general effect or a dirty drumline, those can slot into specific Rating categories pretty easily in local competitions regardless of the quality of bands at the competition as long as the judges do their job well. But OMEA also benefits when more bands get into State Finals since everyone pays for the opportunity to perform. If OMEA wants or needs more money they can just start handing out I's like Oprah hands out cars. I don't doubt the bands that got II's didn't deserve them. I just question the system that got them there to begin with. But I also cringe when I looked at some of the names on the Finals judging panels.
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Post by oldtimer on Nov 7, 2022 10:30:17 GMT -6
I would love to see the OMEA system of judging go the way of the dinosaur. They need to blow it all up and start over again. Lot's of talented groups in Ohio that avoid OMEA contests all together. It shouldn't be that hard to look at other state's systems and do better.
As a fan, I would love to see the best of the state all competing head to head. What we have is certainly not that.
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Post by AFLuver on Nov 7, 2022 10:45:22 GMT -6
I would love to see the OMEA system of judging go the way of the dinosaur. They need to blow it all up and start over again. Lot's of talented groups in Ohio that avoid OMEA contests all together. It shouldn't be that hard to look at other state's systems and do better. As a fan, I would love to see the best of the state all competing head to head. What we have is certainly not that. I totally agree with you. Seeing UIL and ISSMA have all of their top bands in the state perform makes me kinda jealous. I would love to see Centerville, Mason, Both Lakotas, Grove City, Forrest Hills, Miamisburg, and every other top band in the state go head to head all at once in state finals!
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Post by ohioguy2 on Nov 7, 2022 10:58:07 GMT -6
I would love to see the OMEA system of judging go the way of the dinosaur. They need to blow it all up and start over again. Lot's of talented groups in Ohio that avoid OMEA contests all together. It shouldn't be that hard to look at other state's systems and do better. As a fan, I would love to see the best of the state all competing head to head. What we have is certainly not that. Two things on this: 1. With the obvious exception of Mason and Centerville, plus probably Milford, every band in what most people would consider the top 10-15 in Ohio participate in OMEA marching band events. 2. There is evidence to suggest that Ohio directors really aren’t that interested in a competitive state finals. MSBA Championships were held this past weekend and that has traditionally been the avenue for bands that want a competitive end of the season experience. Six bands signed up in the biggest class (two withdrew for weather related reasons). If the directors wanted to do something like you’re suggesting, the option currently exists.
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Post by oldtimer on Nov 7, 2022 11:40:47 GMT -6
I disagree that the format is set up to do that in Ohio for bands that want to be competitive.
In every other competitive endeavor for Ohio High schools there is a state tournament. Not only sports, but academic clubs as well. There's something to be said about winning a state title and bringing that home to their school! It would be great for the band kids.
Not saying it's for every band program, but for the ones that want that level, it would be great. Something about bringing home the I rating from OMEA, that falls flat for many programs.
P.S. Not sure you will ever see Lakota West at another OMEA show again any time soon.
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Nov 7, 2022 11:53:33 GMT -6
In general, state finals are a chance to prove that you didn't fluke into your berth. The sheets are the same -- just as they are the same in BOA between Prelims, Semifinals, and Finals, yet look how scores fluctuate between those events -- but judges are only human and having a separate round recognizes psychology. At any given local show, the average quality of the bands is lower, so a moderately better band can seem better than it is by comparison. I see your point but I don't think comparing a competitive scoring system to a festival scoring system is really the same. In the competitive system such as BOA, numbers given by a panel are relative and placements are more important. The OMEA system of rankings is a bit more liberal because you aren't and shouldn't be comparing the bands directly to each other. Numbers can be used to rank them in the competition season but as long as judges manage their numbers correctly numbers should still fall into the broader rating scale. If a band got their Superior rating by being the best mediocre band at a rural Ohio competition that failure is on the judges for inflating numbers just to be nice to lesser bands. Regardless of surrounding competition, if you have bad intonation, poor feet, no general effect or a dirty drumline, those can slot into specific Rating categories pretty easily in local competitions regardless of the quality of bands at the competition as long as the judges do their job well.But OMEA also benefits when more bands get into State Finals since everyone pays for the opportunity to perform. If OMEA wants or needs more money they can just start handing out I's like Oprah hands out cars. I don't doubt the bands that got II's didn't deserve them. I just question the system that got them there to begin with. But I also cringe when I looked at some of the names on the Finals judging panels. I myself have seen more than a few bands who I thought deserved I at a local competition, and then I've seen the same band at state finals and I thought where I thought they deserved a II. Lots of performances at state are a little better or a little worse than they were at a previous event. Sometimes that difference crosses the invisible 79.9 vs. 80.0 threshold, that's all. It's not poor feet. It's OMEA's version of Box 4 feet vs. Box 5 feet. Even though there are no scores, the cut-off is still there in the judges' minds. OMEA had fewer bands at state this year than in most recent years -- and most of the bands who got a Superior rating at state deserved it, at least as Superior is currently defined, and thus they deserved to be at state in the first place -- so I think the supposed financial motivation is unlikely.
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Post by ohioguy2 on Nov 7, 2022 12:12:51 GMT -6
I disagree that the format is set up to do that in Ohio for bands that want to be competitive. In every other competitive endeavor for Ohio High schools there is a state tournament. Not only sports, but academic clubs as well. There's something to be said about winning a state title and bringing that home to their school! It would be great for the band kids. Not saying it's for every band program, but for the ones that want that level, it would be great. Something about bringing home the I rating from OMEA, that falls flat for many programs. P.S. Not sure you will ever see Lakota West at another OMEA show again any time soon. To the best of my knowledge, 122 bands qualified for state this year, and 120 of them chose to attend. Obviously, this is providing something that the bands want. Lakota West did attend an OMEA event this year, but the fact remains that a lot of great bands attend OMEA.
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Post by oldtimer on Nov 7, 2022 12:31:50 GMT -6
122 bands. Great!
Who won?
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Nov 7, 2022 12:38:12 GMT -6
I'd like the band with ten tubas who gives those tubas the melody at one point to work on the balance so we can actually hear that over all the stuff coming through the speakers, please. Sunday’s Straight 1s were Miamisburg, Kings, Lakota East, Logan Elm, Hamilton, Finneytown, and Marysville Well, I'll be darned. Both music judges apparently agreed with me.
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Post by ohioguy2 on Nov 7, 2022 12:43:43 GMT -6
122 bands. Great! Who won? Nobody, which is apparently fine with the 120 bands that attended.
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Post by oldtimer on Nov 7, 2022 12:59:34 GMT -6
My point is no one cares or likely even knows about it outside of the band program.
My daughter won a state championship in basketball. It was a huge deal at the school, within the school's community, and within the entire city.
And guess what? The interest level in girl's basketball went way up with regards to coverage, attendance, and participation at the younger age groups. If it's OMEA's mission to bring music to more kids, what better way to do that than crown champions and celebrate those band's achievements.
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Post by rlrrll on Nov 7, 2022 13:12:22 GMT -6
I would love to see the OMEA system of judging go the way of the dinosaur. They need to blow it all up and start over again. Lot's of talented groups in Ohio that avoid OMEA contests all together. It shouldn't be that hard to look at other state's systems and do better. As a fan, I would love to see the best of the state all competing head to head. What we have is certainly not that. Two things on this: 1. With the obvious exception of Mason and Centerville, plus probably Milford, every band in what most people would consider the top 10-15 in Ohio participate in OMEA marching band events. 2. There is evidence to suggest that Ohio directors really aren’t that interested in a competitive state finals. MSBA Championships were held this past weekend and that has traditionally been the avenue for bands that want a competitive end of the season experience. Six bands signed up in the biggest class (two withdrew for weather related reasons). If the directors wanted to do something like you’re suggesting, the option currently exists. As much as has been tried, MSBA really only exists as an option in the Dayton/Cincinnati area. Sure there are a few Columbus area bands that participate but they have to go to Dayton to do it. Attempts to hold MSBA shows in the Columbus area have failed because Dayton/Cincinnati bands don't want to travel that far. Columbus area bands don't want to have to travel that for for every competition either. Time and travel budgets dictate where a lot of where bands participate and frankly bands need to do local stuff because there are parents who can't/don't travel to see their kids perform far away. I know there are bands around who do OMEA just because they have to (school administrator request) and other options are not feasible due to costs. I will say that if you are a band with bigger competitive desires like being competitive in BOA, OMEA judging does very little if nothing to help prepare you for success in that world.
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Post by ohbandie48 on Nov 7, 2022 14:10:11 GMT -6
I personally never took OMEA State Finals super seriously since I guess I lucked out to be in one of the powerhouse Ohio bands, so there was an unspoken understanding that we would earn a Superior (I) rating. BOA was much more high pressure to me, and I also wished OMEA State Finals was a ranked competition instead of just ratings.
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Nov 7, 2022 15:03:26 GMT -6
My point is no one cares or likely even knows about it outside of the band program. My daughter won a state championship in basketball. It was a huge deal at the school, within the school's community, and within the entire city. And guess what? The interest level in girl's basketball went way up with regards to coverage, attendance, and participation at the younger age groups. If it's OMEA's mission to bring music to more kids, what better way to do that than crown champions and celebrate those band's achievements. This is 30+ years ago, but when we got a I at State, our returning buses got a police escort from the city line to the high school. We thought that was cool.
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Nov 7, 2022 16:12:43 GMT -6
Although there was much less wind Sunday than Saturday, Lakota East didn't have fabric on their props, which cut into what I assume is some of the effect of their show. Are those the same frames they used for last year's Zodiac show?
Toward the end of Lakota East's show, they also delivered the single loudest moment of all this year's state finals. Admittedly their brass was right down on the sideline at that point (and their drill is very field forward). But it was very impressive regardless.
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Post by trumpetohio on Nov 9, 2022 8:06:36 GMT -6
Although there was much less wind Sunday than Saturday, Lakota East didn't have fabric on their props, which cut into what I assume is some of the effect of their show. Are those the same frames they used for last year's Zodiac show? Yes, those are the same props used for their Horoscope show.
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