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Post by paddy on Jul 1, 2023 18:01:11 GMT -6
People aren't ready for this show, it's crazy... don't think they'll challenge for the title this year, but I think they'll be neck-in-neck with Boston I wouldn’t count out Crown and Cadets. I have a feeling that Boston is going to start off really strong, but eventually get passed by Cadets and Crown late season, and probably BC as well. They sound great don’t get me wrong, but I don’t think the show, at least musically, is as demanding as the other top 5 groups. I believe you are overestimating the Crown book. There is not a crazy amount of demand and when there is they have cut out a number of players and used mics to bring volume. And Crown may not be able to overcome the deficit in GE, Visuals, and Percussion again.
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Post by dbalash on Jul 1, 2023 20:26:27 GMT -6
Bluecoats 2023 Production: "The Garden of Love"Repretoire includes: - The Woods - Chick Corea - The Garden of Love - JacobTV - Finding and Believing - Pat Metheny - 45 - Bon Iver - Bump - Anna Meredith People aren't ready for this show, it's crazy... don't think they'll challenge for the title this year, but I think they'll be neck-in-neck with Boston Pass.
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Post by tubalord11 on Jul 1, 2023 20:32:47 GMT -6
People aren't ready for this show, it's crazy... don't think they'll challenge for the title this year, but I think they'll be neck-in-neck with Boston Pass. yeah I’m with you. This show is just not it, at least for me. It feels all over the place, music book seems to easy for BC, props are super distracting..it just feels so disconnected, and the voice overs are just too much. It just feels like to off the rails of what dci is, and yes, Ik it’s evolving, but this is just to much, at least for me.
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Post by philodemus on Jul 2, 2023 8:13:54 GMT -6
Bloo isn't that crazy... I mean, yeah, wild colors and stuff, but Riffs and Revelations was, to my way of thinking, a bit more of a creative risk. And for me, both work really well. Haven't seen Boston yet, but so far Bluecoats is my favorite thing on the field in 2024, just as they were in 2023.
Sidebar...
Just thinking about The Garden of Love, and the source material which inspired it. To what degree do you think it's appropriate for a show to have a clear 'point of view' on potentially controversial things? William Blake is widely understood to be critical of organized religion in this poem, a perspective I have no qualms with, but which I could imagine many might. I'm sure that in a group the size of the Bluecoats there are a wide variety of opinions on these subjects among the performers. Is this, you know... cool? The marching arts are art, but they're popular art, aimed at entertaining a broad spectrum. Is it cool to take a stance on something that might alienate some of the performers or some of the audience?
To me, it's complicated. I think public high schools should probably avoid some subjects, but I don't mind religious schools taking stronger stances that align with their creeds because, presumably, everyone knows what they're signing up for. I also don't mind it so much in independent winter guards and drumlines [Pride of Cincinnati 2012 was absolute genius] for much the same reason. I could make the same argument for drum and bugle corps, but it feels like a bit more of an edge case just because the scale of the thing. It's less 'niche,' with a much larger audience, you know?
Anyway, I'm not personally bothered by the perspective Bluecoats are taking on in this show, but it does make me ponder whether corps ought to have a perspective more generally.
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Post by Shroom on Jul 3, 2023 8:25:16 GMT -6
BAC's shows always seemed to me like they just took the worst aspects of Crown and SCV's design philosophy and just threw them together, and this year it seems way more pronounced. The whole show just feels incredibly choppy and they rely too heavily on the drum line to push the show forward rather than pit/hornline. It has a lot of cool ideas but it doesn't really stick to any and I struggle to see them medaling this year over Bloo/Crown.
They seem to have a really strong corps this year but I kind of doubt they're going to be able to clean that "wave" drill about 3 and a half minutes into the show, it's way too fast and technical.
Their cohesion at the beginning despite being spread across the entire field is pretty stunning
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Post by marimba11 on Jul 3, 2023 19:07:10 GMT -6
Idk… I hear over and over how BD does the same show every year, but at least their concepts differ vastly.
Coats has basically done the same show now for 4 season focusing on this phycadelic theme… which doesn’t appeal to me but nothing about this show seems to speak to me. Unlike Boston where it is clear what is happening
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Post by supersound on Jul 3, 2023 19:12:01 GMT -6
Idk… I hear over and over how BD does the same show every year, but at least their concepts differ vastly. Coats has basically done the same show now for 4 season focusing on this phycadelic theme… which doesn’t appeal to me but nothing about this show seems to speak to me. Unlike Boston where it is clear what is happening This comment feels a little boomer-y with all respect. The last four shows have hardly anything similar other than the hippie aesthetics (and they even have a range of difference within that if you care to look a little deeper than the surface). They all touch on different themes and ideas uniquely, you cannot tell me that just because they're both "psychedelic" (and then mispell the word) that you don't really gel with the show. Sorry, but I just can't get past half-baked criticisms that exist just to complain instead of coming from a place of understanding and provide avenues for improvement. This really is just one of the most vast misunderstandings I have seen on this forum yet.
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Post by marimba11 on Jul 3, 2023 19:31:35 GMT -6
Idk… I hear over and over how BD does the same show every year, but at least their concepts differ vastly. Coats has basically done the same show now for 4 season focusing on this phycadelic theme… which doesn’t appeal to me but nothing about this show seems to speak to me. Unlike Boston where it is clear what is happening This comment feels a little boomer-y with all respect. The last four shows have hardly anything similar other than the hippie aesthetics (and they even have a range of difference within that if you care to look a little deeper than the surface). They all touch on different themes and ideas uniquely, you cannot tell me that just because they're both "psychedelic" (and then mispell the word) that you don't really gel with the show. Sorry, but I just can't get past half-baked criticisms that exist just to complain instead of coming from a place of understanding and provide avenues for improvement. This really is just one of the most vast misunderstandings I have seen on this forum yet. Sorry it’s a tough word to spell as a phonics learner LOL. I mean look I am 27, live in Colorado, and definitely have had my fair share of it all. But that’s not really the point. I like it when shows can appeal to the lowest common denominator “grandma in the audience,” and I just think this niche of the hippies in the 60s seems so over done by them now… honestly yawn. Yes the in house concept is different sure and well developed by their design staff, but at the surface these 4 niches are all very close IMO. Just kinda tired of it! As much as I attack crown for some of their zingers the past 5 years or so but, at least they’re trying to find it.
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Post by supersound on Jul 3, 2023 20:07:07 GMT -6
This comment feels a little boomer-y with all respect. The last four shows have hardly anything similar other than the hippie aesthetics (and they even have a range of difference within that if you care to look a little deeper than the surface). They all touch on different themes and ideas uniquely, you cannot tell me that just because they're both "psychedelic" (and then mispell the word) that you don't really gel with the show. Sorry, but I just can't get past half-baked criticisms that exist just to complain instead of coming from a place of understanding and provide avenues for improvement. This really is just one of the most vast misunderstandings I have seen on this forum yet. Sorry it’s a tough word to spell as a phonics learner LOL. I mean look I am 27, live in Colorado, and definitely have had my fair share of it all. But that’s not really the point. I like it when shows can appeal to the lowest common denominator “grandma in the audience,” and I just think this niche of the hippies in the 60s seems so over done by them now… honestly yawn. Yes the in house concept is different sure and well developed by their design staff, but at the surface these 4 niches are all very close IMO. Just kinda tired of it! As much as I attack crown for some of their zingers the past 5 years or so but, at least they’re trying to find it. This reply just seems 10x more offensive to the marching arts as a whole than the previous one. The four shows are way beyond just "hippies in the sixties" even on the surface level, especially 2021's. This really just feels like an attempt to drag on Bluecoats to seem "cool" now that they're consistently a contender corp. The inability to even slightly think below the surface and have some common sense is just kind of sad. If every show was catered specifically to the lowest denominator in the audience, then we'd never get some of the best masterpieces, in both DCI and even BOA (L.D. Bell's Trilogy and Cadets early 2000's shows come to mind). The *yawn* comment feels particularly disrespectful imo.
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Post by marimba11 on Jul 3, 2023 20:23:58 GMT -6
Sorry it’s a tough word to spell as a phonics learner LOL. I mean look I am 27, live in Colorado, and definitely have had my fair share of it all. But that’s not really the point. I like it when shows can appeal to the lowest common denominator “grandma in the audience,” and I just think this niche of the hippies in the 60s seems so over done by them now… honestly yawn. Yes the in house concept is different sure and well developed by their design staff, but at the surface these 4 niches are all very close IMO. Just kinda tired of it! As much as I attack crown for some of their zingers the past 5 years or so but, at least they’re trying to find it. This reply just seems 10x more offensive to the marching arts as a whole than the previous one. The four shows are way beyond just "hippies in the sixties" even on the surface level, especially 2021's. This really just feels like an attempt to drag on Bluecoats to seem "cool" now that they're consistently a contender corp. The inability to even slightly think below the surface and have some common sense is just kind of sad. If every show was catered specifically to the lowest denominator in the audience, then we'd never get some of the best masterpieces, in both DCI and even BOA (L.D. Bell's Trilogy and Cadets early 2000's shows come to mind). The *yawn* comment feels particularly disrespectful imo. 🤷 imo there is nothing offensive just because you have a different view I would say you are incorrect on the LD Bell trilogy. In fact that was quite an easy concept to understand being “the remaining” from 2006 were now transcending to “whatever is next” in 2007. The mother figure with the child is a mythological reference is referenced in everything from the Bible up to present day. For argument sake, some of Wes’ wilder shows like “face me” still have a very approachable side even if there is a complicated in house narrative. But that coats 22 show, no way on earth I would ever be able to connect to it. Beatles show, sure that was a hit. Anyway, yes I am not a huge fan of the psychedelic shows they’re doing not only because I am not a massive fan of the genre (which is subjective i’m sure some love it) but, that coats design team is pretty incredible - and to be rehashing the same concept 4 years on now… seems silly to me. Just my opinion!
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Post by Allohak on Jul 3, 2023 21:06:02 GMT -6
Mod comment - Careful, folks - bordering on excessively aggressive response to perfectly reasonable opinion, which we don't need more of
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Post by yayband914 on Jul 3, 2023 21:22:54 GMT -6
Mod comment - Careful, folks - bordering on excessively aggressive response to perfectly reasonable opinion, which we don't need more of I’m just glad it’s not me this time! 🤭
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Post by yayband914 on Jul 3, 2023 21:38:13 GMT -6
This reply just seems 10x more offensive to the marching arts as a whole than the previous one. The four shows are way beyond just "hippies in the sixties" even on the surface level, especially 2021's. This really just feels like an attempt to drag on Bluecoats to seem "cool" now that they're consistently a contender corp. The inability to even slightly think below the surface and have some common sense is just kind of sad. If every show was catered specifically to the lowest denominator in the audience, then we'd never get some of the best masterpieces, in both DCI and even BOA (L.D. Bell's Trilogy and Cadets early 2000's shows come to mind). The *yawn* comment feels particularly disrespectful imo. 🤷 imo there is nothing offensive just because you have a different view I would say you are incorrect on the LD Bell trilogy. In fact that was quite an easy concept to understand being “the remaining” from 2006 were now transcending to “whatever is next” in 2007. The mother figure with the child is a mythological reference is referenced in everything from the Bible up to present day. For argument sake, some of Wes’ wilder shows like “face me” still have a very approachable side even if there is a complicated in house narrative. But that coats 22 show, no way on earth I would ever be able to connect to it. Beatles show, sure that was a hit. Anyway, yes I am not a huge fan of the psychedelic shows they’re doing not only because I am not a massive fan of the genre (which is subjective i’m sure some love it) but, that coats design team is pretty incredible - and to be rehashing the same concept 4 years on now… seems silly to me. Just my opinion! Rather than attack you for having an opinion, I will share my own thoughts and perhaps open up a discourse. I have been a big fan of the direction the Bluecoats have gone in their design since The Beatles show, everything from the music selections to the aesthetics (which, in my opinion, have been incredibly fresh every single year since Tilt). While I highly disagree that their last four shows have been the “same,” there is a definite formula that they found and have been sticking to lately. It is particularly evident in the brass book for me. I definitely hear similarities between last year’s brass book and this year’s, from the general “vibe” and down to the way things are orchestrated and paced. The Anna Meredith pieces are very distinctive, for example, and Doug Thrower’s trademark arranging style only adds to the similarities. While the execution of the arrangements are starting to feel predictable (to me), no one can say that Bluecoats aren’t programming some of the freshest, unexpected repertoire that most programs wouldn’t dare touch. Looking at their past shows since 2014, it seems as though they tend to “reinvent” themselves every two or three years. Tilt and Kinetic Noise feel like spiritual siblings, and were a breakthrough in sound design. Down Side Up more or less stands on its own. Jagged Line and Session 44 also felt connected to each other in several ways. The Bluecoats and Lucy were a planned duology; a psychedelic exploration of The Beatles and obvious passion projects for Mr. Thrower. And now we come to Riffs & Revelations and The Garden of Love, with their highly musical (if somewhat overwrought) narration, both shows expanding the psychedelic vibe but are bigger think-pieces, with a more dreamlike quality than the Beatles pair. Of course, this view is not objective and I am not the most articulate at explaining my thought processes, but that’s just what I have noticed over the last ten seasons. If history repeats itself, it is possible we will see them refresh their design aesthetics within the next year or two. But then again, maybe not!
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Post by josephbandfan on Jul 3, 2023 21:44:26 GMT -6
This reply just seems 10x more offensive to the marching arts as a whole than the previous one. The four shows are way beyond just "hippies in the sixties" even on the surface level, especially 2021's. This really just feels like an attempt to drag on Bluecoats to seem "cool" now that they're consistently a contender corp. The inability to even slightly think below the surface and have some common sense is just kind of sad. If every show was catered specifically to the lowest denominator in the audience, then we'd never get some of the best masterpieces, in both DCI and even BOA (L.D. Bell's Trilogy and Cadets early 2000's shows come to mind). The *yawn* comment feels particularly disrespectful imo. 🤷 imo there is nothing offensive just because you have a different view I would say you are incorrect on the LD Bell trilogy. In fact that was quite an easy concept to understand being “the remaining” from 2006 were now transcending to “whatever is next” in 2007. The mother figure with the child is a mythological reference is referenced in everything from the Bible up to present day. For argument sake, some of Wes’ wilder shows like “face me” still have a very approachable side even if there is a complicated in house narrative. But that coats 22 show, no way on earth I would ever be able to connect to it. Beatles show, sure that was a hit. Anyway, yes I am not a huge fan of the psychedelic shows they’re doing not only because I am not a massive fan of the genre (which is subjective i’m sure some love it) but, that coats design team is pretty incredible - and to be rehashing the same concept 4 years on now… seems silly to me. Just my opinion! It is interesting how different minds interpret different matters as I find these Bluecoats shows far more approachable than Face Me. I kept seeing comments all last year about how too out there Riffs and Revelations was but I personally thought it was still very tame. I agree that these shows share a similar niche, especially compared to most drum corps shows, but I agree with super sound that they really aren’t the same themes at all. Not fully on board with The Garden of Love yet due to the choppiness but I fully expect it to come together as they add more. I’d much rather watch them than crown whom I love and I enjoy their shows, but they just feel so unispired. I really love BD’s themes, but far more than the actual show design. I think I’m tolerating this one more though.
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Post by marimba11 on Jul 3, 2023 22:06:47 GMT -6
Mod comment - Careful, folks - bordering on excessively aggressive response to perfectly reasonable opinion, which we don't need more of I agree! I think also think my opinion is extremely reasonable 😁 But yeah it still is early in the season and there is always time for opinions to change and shows to develop! Definitely an interesting start to the season already. Crown is actually my dark horse rn - they have some powerful source music!!
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Post by marimba11 on Jul 3, 2023 22:07:37 GMT -6
Mod comment - Careful, folks - bordering on excessively aggressive response to perfectly reasonable opinion, which we don't need more of I’m just glad it’s not me this time! 🤭 I mean let’s be honest, something I say usually starts 80% of issues on here lol
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Post by yayband914 on Jul 3, 2023 22:11:11 GMT -6
Mod comment - Careful, folks - bordering on excessively aggressive response to perfectly reasonable opinion, which we don't need more of I agree! I think also think my opinion is extremely reasonable 😁 But yeah it still is early in the season and there is always time for opinions to change and shows to develop! Definitely an interesting start to the season already. Crown is actually my dark horse rn - they have some powerful source music!! Crown has the most seamless music design this year, in my opinion. The brass orchestration from Michael Klesch and Michael Martin is simply MASTERFUL (though I'm not sure if one of them designed and the other consulted, or if both designed it together), enhanced by Kevin Shah's and Mike Jackson's nuanced and colorful percussion arrangements. Such an absolute treat for the ears.
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Post by marimba11 on Jul 3, 2023 22:13:51 GMT -6
🤷 imo there is nothing offensive just because you have a different view I would say you are incorrect on the LD Bell trilogy. In fact that was quite an easy concept to understand being “the remaining” from 2006 were now transcending to “whatever is next” in 2007. The mother figure with the child is a mythological reference is referenced in everything from the Bible up to present day. For argument sake, some of Wes’ wilder shows like “face me” still have a very approachable side even if there is a complicated in house narrative. But that coats 22 show, no way on earth I would ever be able to connect to it. Beatles show, sure that was a hit. Anyway, yes I am not a huge fan of the psychedelic shows they’re doing not only because I am not a massive fan of the genre (which is subjective i’m sure some love it) but, that coats design team is pretty incredible - and to be rehashing the same concept 4 years on now… seems silly to me. Just my opinion! Rather than attack you for having an opinion, I will share my own thoughts and perhaps open up a discourse. I have been a big fan of the direction the Bluecoats have gone in their design since The Beatles show, everything from the music selections to the aesthetics (which, in my opinion, have been incredibly fresh every single year since Tilt). While I highly disagree that their last four shows have been the “same,” there is a definite formula that they found and have been sticking to lately. It is particularly evident in the brass book for me. I definitely hear similarities between last year’s brass book and this year’s, from the general “vibe” and down to the way things are orchestrated and paced. The Anna Meredith pieces are very distinctive, for example, and Doug Thrower’s trademark arranging style only adds to the similarities. While the execution of the arrangements are starting to feel predictable (to me), no one can say that Bluecoats aren’t programming some of the freshest, unexpected repertoire that most programs wouldn’t dare touch. Looking at their past shows since 2014, it seems as though they tend to “reinvent” themselves every two or three years. Tilt and Kinetic Noise feel like spiritual siblings, and were a breakthrough in sound design. Down Side Up more or less stands on its own. Jagged Line and Session 44 also felt connected to each other in several ways. The Bluecoats and Lucy were a planned duology; a psychedelic exploration of The Beatles and obvious passion projects for Mr. Thrower. And now we come to Riffs & Revelations and The Garden of Love, with their highly musical (if somewhat overwrought) narration, both shows expanding the psychedelic vibe but are bigger think-pieces, with a more dreamlike quality than the Beatles pair. Of course, this view is not objective and I am not the most articulate at explaining my thought processes, but that’s just what I have noticed over the last ten seasons. If history repeats itself, it is possible we will see them refresh their design aesthetics within the next year or two. But then again, maybe not! No yeah behind BD, coats has the 2nd best design team in the DCI activity no question about it. If you’ve ever listened to them on the marching round table podcast the thought that goes into their shows is really incredible. I think it’s really the genre of shows I’m really not a fan of, but I will still stick by my statement that the last 4 shows have similar colors patterns, brass writing, visual styles, all of which many corps reuse year in year out too - but I took issue with them reaching back to basically similar hippie themes which I think they have fully explored at infinite IMO but, clearly someone over there likes to explore that time and music!
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Post by marimba11 on Jul 3, 2023 22:16:20 GMT -6
I agree! I think also think my opinion is extremely reasonable 😁 But yeah it still is early in the season and there is always time for opinions to change and shows to develop! Definitely an interesting start to the season already. Crown is actually my dark horse rn - they have some powerful source music!! Crown has the most seamless music design this year, in my opinion. The brass orchestration from Michael Klesch and Michael Martin is simply MASTERFUL (though I'm not sure if one of them designed and the other consulted, or if both designed it together), enhanced by Kevin Shah's and Mike Jackson's nuanced and colorful percussion arrangements. Such an absolute treat for the ears. I agree!! I think this is finally the fresh Crown show we’ve been waiting for! They have quite the vehicle. Unlike last year everytime I was dreading having to watch “right here rn!”
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Post by marimba11 on Jul 3, 2023 22:22:29 GMT -6
I think my fav coats show was Session 44 it was one of those shows that went by in the blink of an eye and the integration of all the music moving from one movement to another was so seamless. Of course this is just thinking out load, but I would have liked if they explored more of jazzy music accompaniment show style sort of a Blue Springs solo heavy show (like 2021) and The Woodlands the past few years … I could see that marriage working.
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Post by marimba11 on Jul 3, 2023 22:27:15 GMT -6
🤷 imo there is nothing offensive just because you have a different view I would say you are incorrect on the LD Bell trilogy. In fact that was quite an easy concept to understand being “the remaining” from 2006 were now transcending to “whatever is next” in 2007. The mother figure with the child is a mythological reference is referenced in everything from the Bible up to present day. For argument sake, some of Wes’ wilder shows like “face me” still have a very approachable side even if there is a complicated in house narrative. But that coats 22 show, no way on earth I would ever be able to connect to it. Beatles show, sure that was a hit. Anyway, yes I am not a huge fan of the psychedelic shows they’re doing not only because I am not a massive fan of the genre (which is subjective i’m sure some love it) but, that coats design team is pretty incredible - and to be rehashing the same concept 4 years on now… seems silly to me. Just my opinion! It is interesting how different minds interpret different matters as I find these Bluecoats shows far more approachable than Face Me. I kept seeing comments all last year about how too out there Riffs and Revelations was but I personally thought it was still very tame. I agree that these shows share a similar niche, especially compared to most drum corps shows, but I agree with super sound that they really aren’t the same themes at all. Not fully on board with The Garden of Love yet due to the choppiness but I fully expect it to come together as they add more. I’d much rather watch them than crown whom I love and I enjoy their shows, but they just feel so unispired. I really love BD’s themes, but far more than the actual show design. I think I’m tolerating this one more though. Crown really does march and play a lot! Id say Coats move a lot too but in different ways besides drill. I think coats layers music and electronics better than anyone, even BD. Their shows are just so seamless these days which all designers should take note!
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Jul 3, 2023 22:59:31 GMT -6
Just thinking about The Garden of Love, and the source material which inspired it. To what degree do you think it's appropriate for a show to have a clear 'point of view' on potentially controversial things? William Blake is widely understood to be critical of organized religion in this poem, a perspective I have no qualms with, but which I could imagine many might. I'm sure that in a group the size of the Bluecoats there are a wide variety of opinions on these subjects among the performers. Is this, you know... cool? The marching arts are art, but they're popular art, aimed at entertaining a broad spectrum. Is it cool to take a stance on something that might alienate some of the performers or some of the audience?... Haven't seen any drum corps performances yet this year, but your comment brings to mind the Cavaliers' 2016 show, "Propaganda," which featured many aural and visual examples of that subject, including both commercial slogans and political references. That included "Trump" and "Clinton" banners that crashed into each other midfield. I thought it made for cool collage impression overall (for one season; the next two years continued the aesthetic and got a bit tiresome for me). But early in the season -- I remember this from the first show of the season that was broadcast from Indianapolis and five days later in Dublin -- either one of the banners was missing or it wasn't as prominent as it later would be, and there were some angry grumbling around me in the audience at Dublin at seeing only their side being included among examples of "propaganda."
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Post by hewhowaits on Jul 5, 2023 6:41:24 GMT -6
This comment feels a little boomer-y with all respect. The last four shows have hardly anything similar other than the hippie aesthetics (and they even have a range of difference within that if you care to look a little deeper than the surface). They all touch on different themes and ideas uniquely, you cannot tell me that just because they're both "psychedelic" (and then mispell the word) that you don't really gel with the show. Sorry, but I just can't get past half-baked criticisms that exist just to complain instead of coming from a place of understanding and provide avenues for improvement. This really is just one of the most vast misunderstandings I have seen on this forum yet. Sorry it’s a tough word to spell as a phonics learner LOL. I mean look I am 27, live in Colorado, and definitely have had my fair share of it all. But that’s not really the point. I like it when shows can appeal to the lowest common denominator “grandma in the audience,” and I just think this niche of the hippies in the 60s seems so over done by them now… honestly yawn. Yes the in house concept is different sure and well developed by their design staff, but at the surface these 4 niches are all very close IMO. Just kinda tired of it! As much as I attack crown for some of their zingers the past 5 years or so but, at least they’re trying to find it. The current "grandma in the audience" was quite possibly a 60s hippie!
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Post by marimba11 on Jul 5, 2023 14:28:59 GMT -6
Sorry it’s a tough word to spell as a phonics learner LOL. I mean look I am 27, live in Colorado, and definitely have had my fair share of it all. But that’s not really the point. I like it when shows can appeal to the lowest common denominator “grandma in the audience,” and I just think this niche of the hippies in the 60s seems so over done by them now… honestly yawn. Yes the in house concept is different sure and well developed by their design staff, but at the surface these 4 niches are all very close IMO. Just kinda tired of it! As much as I attack crown for some of their zingers the past 5 years or so but, at least they’re trying to find it. The current "grandma in the audience" was quite possibly a 60s hippie! When I wrote that, that thought crossed my mind LOLOL
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Aug 14, 2023 19:17:38 GMT -6
Bluecoats 2023 Production: "The Garden of Love"Repretoire includes: - The Woods - Chick Corea - The Garden of Love - JacobTV - Finding and Believing - Pat Metheny - 45 - Bon Iver - Bump - Anna Meredith The opening number in this NPR "Tiny Desk" concert by Anna Meredith in 2018 is listed as "Nautilus" (and she herself calls it that), but it sounds an awful lot like the Meredith tune that Bluecoats list as "Bump." Does anyone here know Meredith's work well enough to shed some light on that? Edits: 1. Fixed link. 2. See reply below where I explained my error. (I also wrote to one of Bluecoats' designers, whom I know slightly from his other work, with the same question. If he responds -- not sure if the email I have is still current -- I'll share that information here. Edit: And then I wrote him to apologize for my confusion.)
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Post by yayband914 on Aug 14, 2023 19:35:29 GMT -6
Bluecoats 2023 Production: "The Garden of Love"Repretoire includes: - The Woods - Chick Corea - The Garden of Love - JacobTV - Finding and Believing - Pat Metheny - 45 - Bon Iver - Bump - Anna Meredith The opening number in this NPR "Tiny Desk" concert by Anna Meredith in 2018 is listed as "Nautilus" (and she herself calls it that), but it sounds an awful lot like the Meredith tune that Bluecoats list as "Bump." Does anyone here know Meredith's work well enough to shed some light on that? (I also wrote to one of Bluecoats' designers, whom I know slightly from his other work, with the same question. If he responds -- not sure if the email I have is still current -- I'll share that information here.) Is that link supposed to take us to a YouTube video?
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Aug 14, 2023 20:11:11 GMT -6
Is that link supposed to take us to a YouTube video? Yeah. Fixed above. But also I figured out my mistake. I never made note of what Bluecoats played last year, and I guess I've been conflating Meredith's "Nautilus," which they played in Riffs & Revelations, with her "Bump," which they played in The Garden of Love. Sorry for the confusion. (And I just heard back from the Bluecoats designer who hadn't read my follow-up email yet and quite properly set me straight.) Edit: Hmm. Dig Meredith's blouse in the Tiny Desk video.
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