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Post by LeanderMomma on Jun 3, 2023 19:25:21 GMT -6
When are we gonna get the TEA on Lewisville ISD?!
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Post by yayband914 on Jun 3, 2023 19:33:55 GMT -6
Drop: New Braunfels H.S., TX (switched to Waco) booooo!! Hey, at least they’ll have a better shot at finals at Waco!
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Post by checkandclose on Jun 3, 2023 21:10:39 GMT -6
Drop:
Cy-Fair H.S., TX
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Post by LeanderMomma on Jun 4, 2023 5:40:37 GMT -6
I need a “dislike” button.
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Post by josephbandfan on Jun 5, 2023 12:59:07 GMT -6
I also heard from a source that they will not be in attendance Will certainly be a different and interesting finals.
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Post by yayband914 on Jun 5, 2023 13:07:49 GMT -6
I also heard from a source that they will not be in attendance Will certainly be a different and interesting finals. That is wild if this turns out to be true. No Coppell, Cy-Fair, Hendrickson, Keller, Pearland, Seven Lakes, Waxahachie, Wylie, and now no Flower Mound, Hebron or Marcus? That is six of last year's finalists not attending, in addition to five more from the top 30. And as of right now, there are no other potential finalists or bubble finalists rumored or planning to be in attendance (save perhaps for Oak Ridge). All of the powerhouses for this contest are already in the Confirmed* list. While very exciting that we will inevitably see a lot of new blood in finals, potentially more than a couple of first-timers, this is shaping up to be one of the least competitive San Antonios in quite some time. I was tempted to make my way down there to see the contest in person this year... but I am not so sure any more! Last year was SPECTACULAR.
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Post by hewhowaits on Jun 5, 2023 19:55:02 GMT -6
I also heard from a source that they will not be in attendance Will certainly be a different and interesting finals. That is wild if this turns out to be true. No Coppell, Cy-Fair, Hendrickson, Keller, Pearland, Seven Lakes, Waxahachie, Wylie, and now no Flower Mound, Hebron or Marcus? That is six of last year's finalists not attending, in addition to five more from the top 30. And as of right now, there are no other potential finalists or bubble finalists rumored or planning to be in attendance. All of the powerhouses for this contest are already in the Confirmed* list. While very exciting that we will inevitably see a lot of new blood in finals, potentially more than a couple of first-timers, this is shaping up to be one of the least competitive San Antonios in quite some time. I was tempted to make my way down there to see the contest in person this year... but I am not so sure any more! Last year was SPECTACULAR. Might we have a year where Grand Nationals is considered by all (or at least most) to be a tougher/deeper event than SASR? It's been a LONG time since that's been the case.
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Post by abtwitch on Jun 5, 2023 20:58:30 GMT -6
That is wild if this turns out to be true. No Coppell, Cy-Fair, Hendrickson, Keller, Pearland, Seven Lakes, Waxahachie, Wylie, and now no Flower Mound, Hebron or Marcus? That is six of last year's finalists not attending, in addition to five more from the top 30. And as of right now, there are no other potential finalists or bubble finalists rumored or planning to be in attendance. All of the powerhouses for this contest are already in the Confirmed* list. While very exciting that we will inevitably see a lot of new blood in finals, potentially more than a couple of first-timers, this is shaping up to be one of the least competitive San Antonios in quite some time. I was tempted to make my way down there to see the contest in person this year... but I am not so sure any more! Last year was SPECTACULAR. Might we have a year where Grand Nationals is considered by all (or at least most) to be a tougher/deeper event than SASR? It's been a LONG time since that's been the case. I'm a shameless Texas apologist and I think this is the case. It's why I'm going to UIL State instead of BOA San Antonio and then (most likely) making the trek up to Indianapolis for my first ever Grand Nationals (well, it also worked out that way with my work schedule but I'm gonna pretend I planned it that way).
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Post by hewhowaits on Jun 6, 2023 5:18:11 GMT -6
Might we have a year where Grand Nationals is considered by all (or at least most) to be a tougher/deeper event than SASR? It's been a LONG time since that's been the case. I'm a shameless Texas apologist and I think this is the case. It's why I'm going to UIL State instead of BOA San Antonio and then (most likely) making the trek up to Indianapolis for my first ever Grand Nationals (well, it also worked out that way with my work schedule but I'm gonna pretend I planned it that way). Glad you said it rather than me. I started out having my question read "might we have a year where the Texas homers concede that..."
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Post by LeanderMomma on Jun 6, 2023 7:29:33 GMT -6
That is wild if this turns out to be true. No Coppell, Cy-Fair, Hendrickson, Keller, Pearland, Seven Lakes, Waxahachie, Wylie, and now no Flower Mound, Hebron or Marcus? That is six of last year's finalists not attending, in addition to five more from the top 30. And as of right now, there are no other potential finalists or bubble finalists rumored or planning to be in attendance. All of the powerhouses for this contest are already in the Confirmed* list. While very exciting that we will inevitably see a lot of new blood in finals, potentially more than a couple of first-timers, this is shaping up to be one of the least competitive San Antonios in quite some time. I was tempted to make my way down there to see the contest in person this year... but I am not so sure any more! Last year was SPECTACULAR. Might we have a year where Grand Nationals is considered by all (or at least most) to be a tougher/deeper event than SASR? It's been a LONG time since that's been the case. Absolutely 100% the case. And with UIL changing the game for the foreseeable future, I’m thinking the era of BOA SA being the most competitive event of the season will soon become a distant memory. That makes me sad.
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Post by LeanderMomma on Jun 6, 2023 7:31:22 GMT -6
I also heard from a source that they will not be in attendance Will certainly be a different and interesting finals. While a part of me is happy for the bands who will finally get an opportunity to make finals here, most of me is feeling very disappointed right now.
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Post by allthingschaotic on Jun 6, 2023 10:33:51 GMT -6
Might we have a year where Grand Nationals is considered by all (or at least most) to be a tougher/deeper event than SASR? It's been a LONG time since that's been the case. Absolutely 100% the case. And with UIL changing the game for the foreseeable future, I’m thinking the era of BOA SA being the most competitive event of the season will soon become a distant memory. That makes me sad. If SMBC classes switch weeks every other year (so that the schedule looks like 2021), then next year's SASR should look similar to how it's been. We'll probably see the DFW and Houston AAAAs return and classes AA and AAA may become less competitive in 2024. We can probably expect even number years to resemble the recent iterations of SASR and odd number years to be less competitive. On the bright side, the odd number years should have more DFW 5As in attendance. We already have Wakeland and Grapevine making the trip down. Perhaps more DFW 5A state qualifiers will compete at SASR in the future. (Also hoping for L.D. Bell's return to finals 🙏)
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Post by bingogooberman on Jun 6, 2023 11:55:34 GMT -6
Even with all the notable absences, it’s still quite likely we see no new faces in finals. As things currently stand, I think the most likely finals lineup looks something like this-
Vandegrift The Woodlands Reagan CTJ Vista Ridge Cedar Ridge Cedar Park Round Rock Wakeland Westlake Rouse James Bowie Leander LD Bell
That being said, I hope we see a new face break through
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Post by josephbandfan on Jun 6, 2023 23:28:34 GMT -6
Even with all the notable absences, it’s still quite likely we see no new faces in finals. As things currently stand, I think the most likely finals lineup looks something like this- Vandegrift The Woodlands Reagan CTJ Vista Ridge Cedar Ridge Cedar Park Round Rock Wakeland Westlake Rouse James Bowie Leander LD Bell That being said, I hope we see a new face break through Looking at last years prelims results, Timber Creek and Keller Central could be in the fight as well. Timber Creek is going through a head director change though so we will see how much of an effect that will have.
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Post by abtwitch on Jun 7, 2023 17:53:39 GMT -6
Westwood if they have a year like 2017 or 2019 could also make it in. I could also see Cypress Woods or Lake Travis finding their way in if their seasons go well.
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Post by TXHillCountryBands on Jun 12, 2023 14:41:54 GMT -6
I choose to see things as is the glass half full versus half empty in this scenario. SASR will still be a stellar show even without the possible LISD contingent.
Yes I do have a strong opinions about the UIL rule changes but I do hear from inside sources that things may return to alternate class years at SMBC next season. 🤞 🙏
That’s being said who made the BOA circuit the final arbiter of truth as of which high schools program are actually the strongest or best in the Country year over year? I have heard several Midwestern homers claiming that SASR dominance is a thing of the past and Nats is where it is. Now I cannot not speak for this seasons or the future but pending UIL decisions I cannot see this happening. Yes “ABC” and Nats are an amazing HS show but because Texas elites cannot attend consistently attend still does not make that show the Super Bowl of HS Marching Band. IMO nothing actually changes.
SASR is the real question. SASR is going to get interesting now should UIL rules stick. Consider that DFW contingents cannot have 2 free practice runs on Saturday before Tuesday ,….then we may see newly crowned finalist at SMBC on a consist basis! This only adds to the already competitive culture in Texas imo. Our “ABC” list only becomes longer and more competitive! My guess Indiana might start to frequent San Antonio to go head to head against our supposed “B” Team but they are in for a rude awakening if gong against a full spectrum of Leander ISD, NEISD and South Dallas and South Houston have anything to say!
Unless Harloff is planing to march a brass instrument on the field with Avon I can’t see that brass ensemble or ME improving against any Top Texas program. Gaines has visual and GE on lockdown for Indiana,ISSMA and BOA
That being said SMBC ‘s Top 30 - 6a rooster can and do hold more prestige across the Country imo. That Top 30 can enter any circuit and mostly dominate and disrupt! Add the 5a final comps and your in Heaven! ❤️ I’m going to forgo Nats and enjoy SASR and SMBC this season in the Alamodome! The best and most overall competitive HS marching band circuits shows in the country year over year!
Team Texas
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Post by yayband914 on Jun 12, 2023 14:46:44 GMT -6
Yes I do have a strong opinions about the UIL rule changes but I do hear from inside sources that things may return to alternate class years at SMBC next season. 🤞 🙏 ❤️
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Post by yayband914 on Jun 12, 2023 14:57:12 GMT -6
The way I see things as of now:
Finals Locks: Cedar Park H.S., TX Cedar Ridge H.S., TX Claudia Taylor Johnson H.S., TX Ronald Reagan H.S., TX Round Rock H.S., TX The Woodlands H.S., TX Vandegrift H.S., TX Vista Ridge H.S., TX
Finals Bubble (two won't make it): James Bowie H.S., TX Keller Central H.S., TX L.D. Bell H.S., TX Leander H.S., TX Rouse H.S., TX Timber Creek H.S., TX Wakeland H.S., TX Westlake H.S., TX
Dark Horses: Bridgeland H.S., TX Cypress Woods H.S., TX Lake Travis H.S., TX M.G. Johnson H.S., TX Tom Glenn H.S., TX (maybe?) Westwood H.S., TX Wylie East H.S., TX
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Post by yayband914 on Jun 12, 2023 15:39:20 GMT -6
Also… where are all the Class A bands at?! (Pecos aside.)
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Post by marimba11 on Jun 12, 2023 17:09:29 GMT -6
Is Pearland just doing regionals and Grand Nationals?
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Post by yayband914 on Jun 12, 2023 17:10:42 GMT -6
Is Pearland just doing regionals and Grand Nationals? That appears to be the case. Katy regional and Grand Nationals.
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Post by vidal28rdg on Jun 13, 2023 1:08:26 GMT -6
That is wild if this turns out to be true. No Coppell, Cy-Fair, Hendrickson, Keller, Pearland, Seven Lakes, Waxahachie, Wylie, and now no Flower Mound, Hebron or Marcus? That is six of last year's finalists not attending, in addition to five more from the top 30. And as of right now, there are no other potential finalists or bubble finalists rumored or planning to be in attendance. All of the powerhouses for this contest are already in the Confirmed* list. While very exciting that we will inevitably see a lot of new blood in finals, potentially more than a couple of first-timers, this is shaping up to be one of the least competitive San Antonios in quite some time. I was tempted to make my way down there to see the contest in person this year... but I am not so sure any more! Last year was SPECTACULAR. Might we have a year where Grand Nationals is considered by all (or at least most) to be a tougher/deeper event than SASR? It's been a LONG time since that's been the case. One would be able to best gauge that with how the season ultimately goes for the groups involved in each, as objective an observation of the groups as we can while we subjectively compare them as we do👀 seeing the cutoffs for each contest and injecting opinion and hypothetical in there as not every band can be at every contest: GN finals vs SA finals- how hard will both in making this year. The 12-band cutoff already gives GN an edge in difficulty simply because less bands make it in!😮 it’s a year-to-year gauge and for this year, it’s going to be QUITE difficult to make finals at GN with the infusion of all of the Texas bands going, their quality, and the quality of all the other bands up for finals contention. BOASA can often give even a fairly stacked finals at GN a run for it’s money lately, but it’s just not gonna be the case this year GN Semis vs a hypothetical top 30-35ish SA: not a perfect comparison because of the inclusions made for all classes that happen for GN Semis, but!! with many bands skipping out on SA not even due to Nats but 6A UIL, it most definitely impacts the depth of the contest, it’ll be hard to envision the contest filling out to 80+ every year like it has, especially on 6A years. I would argue there is still sneaky depth to be had at SA and isn’t as recognized as it could be, same with many GN semis contenders as well, it’s important to be impartial! For me, the jury’s out on the comparison here until the season plays out. Each contests’ finals are much more easier to prognosticate the difficulty of making, GN finals will be the tougher one imo👀
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Post by homerchap on Jun 13, 2023 8:54:32 GMT -6
The way I see things as of now: Finals Locks:Cedar Park H.S., TX Cedar Ridge H.S., TX Claudia Taylor Johnson H.S., TX Ronald Reagan H.S., TX Round Rock H.S., TX The Woodlands H.S., TX Vandegrift H.S., TX Vista Ridge H.S., TX Finals Bubble (two won't make it):James Bowie H.S., TX Keller Central H.S., TX L.D. Bell H.S., TX Leander H.S., TX Rouse H.S., TX Timber Creek H.S., TX Wakeland H.S., TX Westlake H.S., TX Dark Horses:Bridgeland H.S., TX Cypress Woods H.S., TX Klein Oak H.S., TX (McGrath is back) Lake Travis H.S., TX M.G. Johnson H.S., TX Tom Glenn H.S., TX (maybe?) Westwood H.S., TX Wylie East H.S., TX Klein Oak is not doing SASR this year. That decision was made before McGrath got there. Hopefully we'll be back next year with a full year under McGrath and do very well!
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Post by TXHillCountryBands on Jun 14, 2023 10:55:09 GMT -6
Vidal, I still can’t get behind the Nats will be stronger in depth than SASR just yet. Looking at the present lists it can be debated but that not my point. BOA adjudication and most of the Hornrank voting contingents skew heavily towards design (designer) visual and expressionist execution only. Let’s see how AI changes the design landscape? Presently several voting ideologues want to keep a programs like Carmel at the forefront of this sport. I get it as Gaines work is tough to beat for sure but I cannot accept any program overly celebrated nationally solely on design depth yet play a music book that is remedial in valve movement and individual demand. Not trying to be overly critical but that is why I choose programs like BA (Oklahoma elites), Tarpon and those many other programs who chose to push themselves overall. Yes that includes the Texas contingency but I can honestly see others in Ohio, Utah, Carolinas just to name a few. CASTLE is pushing the music demand envelope and my hope is that Indiana finally follows suit. Nat’s 23’ didn’t miraculously get more competitive than San Antonio. It’s just happened that 6+ of last years finalist might miss SA. FACTS. I still believe the Alamodome (SASR and SMBC) has the most overall competitiveness in terms of field depth. Even without a deserved semi’s. San Antonio is going to be fireworks that week!!!! 🧨
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Post by vidal28rdg on Jun 14, 2023 10:56:12 GMT -6
Even with all the notable absences, it’s still quite likely we see no new faces in finals. As things currently stand, I think the most likely finals lineup looks something like this- Vandegrift The Woodlands Reagan CTJ Vista Ridge Cedar Ridge Cedar Park Round Rock Wakeland Westlake Rouse James Bowie Leander LD Bell That being said, I hope we see a new face break through Looking at last years prelims results, Timber Creek and Keller Central could be in the fight as well. Timber Creek is going through a head director change though so we will see how much of an effect that will have. We will indeed find out for timber creek👀 I believe they’ll be around where they are now maybe up a spot or two, down one or two, not too much of a departure from where they’re currently at!
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Post by LeanderMomma on Jun 15, 2023 17:23:29 GMT -6
I’m just bummed in general about the SASR this year. I’ll definitely have to spend a week and a half in the Alamodome tho because state is going to be so exciting!
EDIT: Turns out I might have reason to be more hopeful and excited about the SASR after all!
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Post by vidal28rdg on Jun 15, 2023 23:59:53 GMT -6
I’m just bummed in general about the SASR this year. I’ll definitely have to spend a week and a half in the Alamodome tho because state is going to be so exciting! Like others have posted too, I personally don’t see anything to be bummed about! Lots of familiar faces, some new, some less frequenting the trip to SA for BOA are making the trip, 6A state will make up for some of the missing faces so definitely just make sure you catch all the ones you miss at UIL before BOASA comes around. It’s the end of the season for many, their very best effort is coming out in that week so make sure to take it all in!
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Post by LeanderMomma on Jun 16, 2023 7:44:09 GMT -6
I now have cause to believe that we are dead wrong about the Lewisville bands not attending the SASR. At least one of them has some members who reached out to me and said they are going! I won’t say anything about which one it is until it’s confirmed but this is good news indeed!
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Post by tubalord11 on Jun 16, 2023 8:25:11 GMT -6
I now have cause to believe that we are dead wrong about the Lewisville bands not attending the SASR. At least one of them has some members who reached out to me and said they are going! I won’t say anything about which one it is until it’s confirmed but this is good news indeed! Let’s freaking go!!!! While i understand, especially for Hebron, taking this one off for the sake of rest and being worn out is understandable, I think they really should come just to see, and correct me if I’m wrong, but with state being before this comp( I think), and with that being UIL judging and not boa, it will be good to see where they stand(hopefully the top) in terms of boa with the big boys going into GN. I’d love for them to place like 2nd-5th snd state, and then come win this or get super close, and then win their first GN title
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Post by LeanderMomma on Jun 16, 2023 10:36:10 GMT -6
Pretty sure that one of those “not attending” bands is attending. 😍🤞
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