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Post by hewhowaits on Nov 1, 2023 13:24:51 GMT -6
Moved “up” in this case is most definitely correct! Are we going to keep bringing up how dumb I am?! 🤪 Probably. Until another of us provides meme-able fodder for the masses.
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Post by vidal28rdg on Nov 1, 2023 15:59:08 GMT -6
Also not really a Texas person. But check out those UIL state scores in the non boa section under TEXAS on here. You’ll probably have different predictions! Bah. UIL weighting ≠ BOA scoring. SASR will look very different than UIL, methinks. You see, I don’t even really think it will, at least with how I look at it. Examples I’m using are TWHS and Reagan. Hebron and FloMo removed, they placed 4th and 5th respectively at state. Them both finishing on the podium potentially at SASR is not a seismic difference in outcome compared to that imo. Marcus is, I think a lock for top half, even if they place 7th, which I don’t believe they will, there isn’t really massive difference to me due to the groups that are around that area, are in a similar tier to them. There isn’t much of a demarcation in the quality of groups that would indicate massive shakeups in placements as people expect. Bands are being added(notably Rouse, Wakeland, Cedar Park, Cedar Ridge, Leander+ more) that could inject themselves in to their respective placement ranges that folks are already predicting them to be. People have Rouse, justifiably in top half, around the tier of a Reagan, Marcus, Vista, and that’s to be expected here. There’s more wiggle room in the bubble where the most variation could occur, but there is definitely expectation for those 6A finalists that are attending both to make finals in both, I wouldn’t qualify that as a heavy variation, personally.
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Post by ilikeguard on Nov 2, 2023 7:14:00 GMT -6
How many times has the same band won both UIL and BOA in the same year, and how many times have they not? 2018 comes to mind for me, but I haven’t been following UIL closely until this year.
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Post by twhsalumniparent on Nov 2, 2023 7:50:16 GMT -6
How many times has the same band won both UIL and BOA in the same year, and how many times have they not? 2018 comes to mind for me, but I haven’t been following UIL closely until this year. On a quick check since SA became a super regional:
2010 - Marcus
2012 - Marcus
2016 - Flower Mound 2021 - Hebron
Prior to 2021 UIL 5A (through 2012) then 6A (from 2014) state contests only happened in even-numbered years.
So 4 times out of 10 possibilities (04, 06, 08, 10, 12, 14, 16, 18, 21, 22). We'll see about 2023.
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Post by bandfannate on Nov 2, 2023 9:46:39 GMT -6
I see a lot of people leaving Leander out of finals contention and I think it may be worthwhile to take a look at how they have finished their past two seasons.
In 2021 Leander was 7th in Austin finals with a 77.80 and ended the season in 9th at SA with a 90.50, an increase of 12.7 points over the course of the season.
In 2022 Leander was 12th in Austin finals with a 74.10 and ended the season in 16th at SA with an 88.15, an increase of 14.05 points(!!)
2 seasons is not enough data to call this a trend but just for fun (if you're like me and find looking at data fun), that would be an average point increase of 13.375.
Leander's Austin finals score of 78.10 plus the (average) increase of 13.375 would put them at a 91.475. That's a score that would be comfortably in finals.
Does this data mean anything tangible for this season? Most likely no, but it'll be interesting to see if this level of growth happens for a third year in a row.
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Post by jetliner on Nov 2, 2023 10:12:27 GMT -6
Just from what I saw at Area Finals last weekend, I would be very surprised to see Leander miss finals here.
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Post by TXHillCountryBands on Nov 2, 2023 10:24:34 GMT -6
Agreed. Some of their content is not BOA appreciated but Leander should final! It’s a wonderful show!
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Post by principalagent on Nov 2, 2023 11:07:33 GMT -6
Just from what I saw at Area Finals last weekend, I would be very surprised to see Leander miss finals here. UIL and BOA are obviously different but Leander closed the gap with Rouse and Cedar Park dramatically just that day alone (final ordinals 8, 10, 12 in order). Adding their recent late season pushes, the lower competition this year, and the fact that their show has massive wheels to run on, I agree that they should make it in with a strong run.
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Post by supersound on Nov 2, 2023 11:22:55 GMT -6
Just from what I saw at Area Finals last weekend, I would be very surprised to see Leander miss finals here. UIL and BOA are obviously different but Leander closed the gap with Rouse and Cedar Park dramatically just that day alone (final ordinals 8, 10, 12 in order). Adding their recent late season pushes, the lower competition this year, and the fact that their show has massive wheels to run on, I agree that they should make it in with a strong run. I wouldn’t put much (or any) weight on area results. I agree Leander will probably be in with a strong run, but hardly because of the scores they put up at area.
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Post by principalagent on Nov 2, 2023 11:37:30 GMT -6
UIL and BOA are obviously different but Leander closed the gap with Rouse and Cedar Park dramatically just that day alone (final ordinals 8, 10, 12 in order). Adding their recent late season pushes, the lower competition this year, and the fact that their show has massive wheels to run on, I agree that they should make it in with a strong run. I wouldn’t put much (or any) weight on area results. I agree Leander will probably be in with a strong run, but hardly because of the scores they put up at area. I definitely know the game. It’s more to speak to the fact that the gulf in performance and execution from early season is likely closing, which will help the show realize its full potential come this weekend.
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Post by coleeich on Nov 2, 2023 21:56:57 GMT -6
Very last minute SASR Predictions!
Panel 1 Top 5 1. Vandegrift 2. The Woodlands 3. Rouse 4. Cedar Park 5. Cedar Ridge
Panel 2 Top 5 1. Marcus 2. Ronald Reagan 3. Vista Ridge 4. Round Rock 5. Claudia Taylor Johnson
Next 4 Lake Travis Wakeland Westwood Leander
Finals Predictions 1. Marcus 2. Vandegrift 3. The Woodlands 4. Ronald Reagan 5. Rouse 6. Vista Ridge 7. Cedar Park 8. Round Rock 9. Claudia Taylor Johnson 10. Cedar Ridge 11. Lake Travis 12. Wakeland 13. Westwood 14. Leander
Music - Vandegrift Visual - The Woodlands GE - Marcus
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Post by hewhowaits on Nov 3, 2023 4:51:45 GMT -6
Happy SASR opening day!
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Post by bigtrombone on Nov 3, 2023 5:59:16 GMT -6
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Post by dallashobbs on Nov 4, 2023 18:44:11 GMT -6
In case anyone wanted to see the finalists and their respective halves, these were the results from prelims(random order):
Top half: Vandegrift, Marcus, The Woodlands, LD Bell, Rouse, Ronald Reagan, Vista Ridge
Bottom Half: Cedar Park, Wakeland, Round Rock, Westlake, Bridgeland, CTJ, Leander
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Post by yayband914 on Nov 4, 2023 18:46:59 GMT -6
In case anyone wanted to see the finalists and their respective halves, these were the results from prelims(random order): Top half: Vandegrift, Marcus, The Woodlands, LD Bell, Rouse, Ronald Reagan, Vista Ridge Bottom Half: Cedar Park, Wakeland, Round Rock, Westlake, Bridgeland, CTJ, Leander The finals schedule also tells all!
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Post by dallashobbs on Nov 4, 2023 19:15:04 GMT -6
Prelims Awards Results
CLASS 1A 1. Krum 2. Pecos 3. Manor New Tech
Outstanding Music Performance: Pecos Outstanding Visual Performance: Krum Outstanding General Effect: (tie) Krum and Pecos
CLASS 2A 1. Argyle 2. Roma 3. Grapevine
Outstanding Music Performance: Argyle Outstanding Visual Performance: Argyle Outstanding General Effect: Argyle
CLASS 3A 1. Rouse 2. Cedar Park 3. Leander
Outstanding Music Performance: Rouse Outstanding Visual Performance: Rouse Outstanding General Effect: Rouse
CLASS 4A 1. Vandegrift 2. Marcus 3. The Woodlands
Outstanding Music Performance: Vandegrift Outstanding Visual Performance: The Woodlands Outstanding General Effect: Marcus
Finalists in their respective halves (alphabetical order)
TOP HALF LD Bell Marcus Ronald Reagan Rouse Vandegrift Vista Ridge The Woodlands
BOTTOM HALF Bridgeland Cedar Park Claudia Taylor Johnson Leander Round Rock Wakeland Westlake
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