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Post by thewho on Oct 8, 2023 10:33:18 GMT -6
how soon will we know the semi state schedule? Drawing for semi-state has historically been around 1 PM on the day after regionals. We should know fairly soon.
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Post by paddy on Oct 8, 2023 10:58:31 GMT -6
how soon will we know the semi state schedule? Late afternoon today.
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Post by altosandclarinets on Oct 8, 2023 12:01:50 GMT -6
Word on the street is Brownsburgs judges took some degrees. Quite a few areas we’re hotter…
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Post by 70sguardchick on Oct 8, 2023 12:03:39 GMT -6
Word on the street is Brownsburgs judges took some degrees. Quite a few areas we’re hotter… Have heard the same and also Avon. Still quite warm for both
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Post by TeamIndiana on Oct 8, 2023 12:04:31 GMT -6
Word on the street is Brownsburgs judges took some degrees. Quite a few areas we’re hotter… Yes… Brownsburg got hit with a significant penalty that put them in the 4th - 5th range BUT pre penalty they were comfortably 2nd. Also, while Noblesville received 2 distinctions they weren’t 3rd or even 4th… (pre Brownsburg penalty) This I just info I’ve been sent. I haven’t seen any sheets myself.
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Post by bandmom2 on Oct 8, 2023 12:13:07 GMT -6
Word on the street is Brownsburgs judges took some degrees. Quite a few areas we’re hotter… Yes… Brownsburg got hit with a significant penalty that put them in the 4th - 5th range BUT pre penalty they were comfortably 2nd. Also, while Noblesville received 2 distinctions they weren’t 3rd or even 4th… (pre Brownsburg penalty) This I just info I’ve been sent. I haven’t seen any sheets myself. Is that placement considering just North? Or both?
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Post by altosandclarinets on Oct 8, 2023 12:14:48 GMT -6
Word on the street is Brownsburgs judges took some degrees. Quite a few areas we’re hotter… Yes… Brownsburg got hit with a significant penalty that put them in the 4th - 5th range BUT pre penalty they were comfortably 2nd. Also, while Noblesville received 2 distinctions they weren’t 3rd or even 4th… This I just info I’ve been sent. I haven’t seen any sheets myself. Wow! How bad was the penalty? What was it for? And noblesville with 2 distinctions and not even 4th? I figured they were second, just what did they do to get THAT bad.
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Post by TeamIndiana on Oct 8, 2023 12:18:11 GMT -6
Yes… Brownsburg got hit with a significant penalty that put them in the 4th - 5th range BUT pre penalty they were comfortably 2nd. Also, while Noblesville received 2 distinctions they weren’t 3rd or even 4th… (pre Brownsburg penalty) This I just info I’ve been sent. I haven’t seen any sheets myself. Is that placement considering just North? Or both? That is just based off of the Northern Regional. Pre Brownsburg penalty I have been told placements for the top 7 were: Avon Brownsburg Carroll Homestead Noblesville Westfield Goshen After the penalty Brownsburg placed around Westfield.
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Post by 70sguardchick on Oct 8, 2023 12:18:21 GMT -6
Yes… Brownsburg got hit with a significant penalty that put them in the 4th - 5th range BUT pre penalty they were comfortably 2nd. Also, while Noblesville received 2 distinctions they weren’t 3rd or even 4th… This I just info I’ve been sent. I haven’t seen any sheets myself. Wow! How bad was the penalty? What was it for? And noblesville with 2 distinctions and not even 4th? I figured they were second, just what did they do to get THAT bad. I heard 3 pts for out of bounds
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Post by TeamIndiana on Oct 8, 2023 12:22:39 GMT -6
Yes… Brownsburg got hit with a significant penalty that put them in the 4th - 5th range BUT pre penalty they were comfortably 2nd. Also, while Noblesville received 2 distinctions they weren’t 3rd or even 4th… This I just info I’ve been sent. I haven’t seen any sheets myself. Wow! How bad was the penalty? What was it for? And noblesville with 2 distinctions and not even 4th? I figured they were second, just what did they do to get THAT bad. I have been told Avon and Brownsburg received penalties for entering the field too early. Sounds like it was more of a logistical problem at the hosting facility that caused the problems. Also, it sounds like while Carroll and Homestead both only received distinctions in Music, they were both very close to receiving captions in both visual and GE also. Noblesville barely got the visual caption and was significantly further away from the GE caption than Carroll and Homestead thus putting them in 4th behind those two.
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Post by altosandclarinets on Oct 8, 2023 12:23:31 GMT -6
Wow! How bad was the penalty? What was it for? And noblesville with 2 distinctions and not even 4th? I figured they were second, just what did they do to get THAT bad. I heard 3 pts for out of bounds Ouch. That feels unnecessary. But if they landed at around 4th or 5th then I’m curious how close the bands were if 3 points was all it took.
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Post by TeamIndiana on Oct 8, 2023 12:25:45 GMT -6
I heard 3 pts for out of bounds Ouch. That feels unnecessary. But if they landed at around 4th or 5th then I’m curious how close the bands were if 3 points was all it took. 2,3,4 were all within just a few points of each other
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Post by oldschooldrummer on Oct 8, 2023 12:29:36 GMT -6
Is that placement considering just North? Or both? That is just based off of the Northern Regional. Pre Brownsburg penalty I have been told placements for the top 7 were: Avon Brownsburg Carroll Homestead Noblesville Westfield Goshen After the penalty Brownsburg placed around Westfield. I’ve heard that Carroll was extremely close to Brownsburg before the penalty (less than 2 dimes behind). Avon Carroll Homestead Noblesville Brownsburg/Penn Westfield Goshen Ben Davis Elkhart
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Post by altosandclarinets on Oct 8, 2023 12:33:41 GMT -6
That is just based off of the Northern Regional. Pre Brownsburg penalty I have been told placements for the top 7 were: Avon Brownsburg Carroll Homestead Noblesville Westfield Goshen After the penalty Brownsburg placed around Westfield. I’ve heard that Carroll was extremely close to Brownsburg before the penalty (less than 2 dimes behind). Avon Carroll Homestead Noblesville Brownsburg/Penn Westfield Goshen Ben Davis Elkhart Where did this information come from?
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Post by TeamIndiana on Oct 8, 2023 12:36:04 GMT -6
I’ve heard that Carroll was extremely close to Brownsburg before the penalty (less than 2 dimes behind). Avon Carroll Homestead Noblesville Brownsburg/Penn Westfield Goshen Ben Davis Elkhart Where did this information come from? From people who have access the score sheets. Eventually they will be uploaded in the ISSMA results tab on here… www.hornrank.com/p/issma-results.html
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Post by bflat on Oct 8, 2023 12:41:01 GMT -6
Word on the street is Brownsburgs judges took some degrees. Quite a few areas we’re hotter… Yes… Brownsburg got hit with a significant penalty that put them in the 4th - 5th range BUT pre penalty they were comfortably 2nd. Also, while Noblesville received 2 distinctions they weren’t 3rd or even 4th… (pre Brownsburg penalty) This I just info I’ve been sent. I haven’t seen any sheets myself.
Wow, how high was their score if they managed to pull off distinctions even with a significant penalty? Or is the penalty applied after and only affects ranking? And 2 distinctions still landing lower than 4th seems...odd.
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Post by TeamIndiana on Oct 8, 2023 12:44:15 GMT -6
Yes… Brownsburg got hit with a significant penalty that put them in the 4th - 5th range BUT pre penalty they were comfortably 2nd. Also, while Noblesville received 2 distinctions they weren’t 3rd or even 4th… (pre Brownsburg penalty) This I just info I’ve been sent. I haven’t seen any sheets myself.
Wow, how how was their score if they managed to pull off distinctions even with a significant penalty? Or is the penalty applied after and only affects ranking? And 2 distinctions still landing lower than 4th seems...odd.
Like I said, Carroll and Homestead both were very close to the visual distinction while Noblesville barely got it. Carroll and Homestead placed much much higher in the GE category than Noblesville thus allowing those two to surpass them in the final placings. From my understanding, Noblesville was about a point or so below Homestead. Noblesville didn’t receive any penalties to my knowledge.
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Post by bflat on Oct 8, 2023 13:02:51 GMT -6
Wow, how how was their score if they managed to pull off distinctions even with a significant penalty? Or is the penalty applied after and only affects ranking? And 2 distinctions still landing lower than 4th seems...odd.
Like I said, Carroll and Homestead both were very close to the visual distinction while Noblesville barely got it. Carroll and Homestead placed much much higher in the GE category than Noblesville thus allowing those two to surpass them in the final placings. From my understanding, Noblesville was about a point or so below Homestead. Noblesville didn’t receive any penalties to my knowledge. 2 different questions that I wasn't clear in my wording: 1) How high was Brownsburg to have gotten a significant penalty yet still pull off distinctions unless distinctions aren't affected by penalties (which is the only thing that would make sense in that scenario) and 2) Doesn't it seem odd to grab 2 distinctions yet fall lower than 4th in rankings? (which is the question you answered)
Ultimately it just seems like the north was very stacked for distinctions, and I'm curious how their scoring overall compared with south. Then again, maybe the north vs south regionals weren't as evenly matched as I figured going into it...
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Post by TeamIndiana on Oct 8, 2023 13:07:46 GMT -6
Correct about Brownsburg, you still receive the distinctions even though there was a penalty.
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Post by bandmom2 on Oct 8, 2023 15:02:10 GMT -6
Interesting to see the score gap between Carroll and Homestead has narrowed over the last two weeks. I heard Homestead was 3rd in music and I’m guessing it was behind Avon/Brownsburg.
Also, anyone know what is going on with Goshen? Penn has outscored them twice now this season (their show was impressive yesterday) and a return state finals trip is not looking like a guarantee for Goshen. A bummer for them when there was so much buzz early in the season.
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Post by oldschooldrummer on Oct 8, 2023 15:18:15 GMT -6
Interesting to see the score gap between Carroll and Homestead has narrowed over the last two weeks. I heard Homestead was 3rd in music and I’m guessing it was behind Avon/Brownsburg. Also, anyone know what is going on with Goshen? Penn has outscored them twice now this season (their show was impressive yesterday) and a return state finals trip is not looking like a guarantee for Goshen. A bummer for them when there was so much buzz early in the season. Homestead was 3rd in music behind Carroll. Homestead and Brownsburg were the same.
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Post by bandgeek0744 on Oct 8, 2023 18:02:32 GMT -6
Were there any issues other than penalities that could have played into any of the results of the night?
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Post by paddy on Oct 8, 2023 18:04:58 GMT -6
Were there any issues other than penalities that could have played into any of the results of the night? Not performing as well as other bands at the competition…
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Post by dbalma on Oct 8, 2023 18:12:55 GMT -6
Is there anywhere we can see the actual scores and placements?
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Post by 70sguardchick on Oct 8, 2023 18:26:10 GMT -6
Is there anywhere we can see the actual scores and placements? Not publicly. ISSMA officially releases to directors only. They will likely show up in the Results area of HornRank at some point.
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Post by ika on Oct 8, 2023 19:09:40 GMT -6
does anyone have the weather forecast for center grove regional yet?!?!
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Post by bflat on Oct 8, 2023 19:36:31 GMT -6
Were there any issues other than penalities that could have played into any of the results of the night? There were some electronic issues at Center Grove that affected a few of the bands. Not sure if that really played into scores or not.
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Post by bandaid on Oct 8, 2023 19:43:13 GMT -6
Does anyone know what the benchmarks are to receive distinction in Music, Effect, and Visual?
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Post by clariphone on Oct 8, 2023 19:55:12 GMT -6
Does anyone know what the benchmarks are to receive distinction in Music, Effect, and Visual? i’m very confused on benchmarks. i know a band who was 2nd in nearly every box but didn’t get a single distinction but bands below them got one
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Post by 70sguardchick on Oct 9, 2023 10:27:49 GMT -6
OK, looks like ISSMA finally posted recaps on its directors-only area from the weekend....looking to see more accurate weather reports floating around soon....
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