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Post by yayband914 on Oct 17, 2024 12:16:47 GMT -6
There’s the angry mob. Now this can stop. 😂
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Post by crowncrawler on Oct 17, 2024 12:24:49 GMT -6
Ayo, first SC nats win this year? 😂 |
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Post by cybrunette on Oct 17, 2024 14:11:19 GMT -6
Ayo, first SC nats win this year? 😂 I could already imagine all of you freaking out if that actually happened lol |
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Post by cybrunette on Oct 17, 2024 14:24:24 GMT -6
How much snow are we thinking will fall this weekend? Since it's a week later than usual
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Post by ohbandfan on Oct 17, 2024 14:40:48 GMT -6
How much snow are we thinking will fall this weekend? Since it's a week later than usual Well considering it rained ice the other day, I’m going with 2 inches 😂 |
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Post by kyle on Oct 17, 2024 17:52:50 GMT -6
not the response I was quite expecting, I still want that angry mob 1. Catawba Ridge, SC 2. Cedar Park, TX 3. Broken Arrow, OK 4. Tri-Valley, IL 5. Carmel, IN 6. William Mason, OH 7. Jenks, OK 8. Leander, TX 9. Castle, IN 10. Fishers, IN 11. Bridgeland, TX 12. Jenison, MI 13. Mustang, OK 14. Prosper, TX 15. Dobyns-Bennett, TN 16. Brownsburg, IN 17. Homestead, IN 18. Lincoln-Way Community, IL 19. Coppell, TX 20. Friendswood, TX 21. Avon, IN 22. Norwin, PA 23. Lakota East, OH 24. Stoneman Douglas, FL 25. Rockford, MI 26. Bartlett, TN 27. Westlake, UT 28. Lawrence Township, IN 29. Franklin, TN 30. Huron Valley Marching Band, MI 31. Tarpon Springs, FL 32. Noblesville, IN 33. Bourbon County, KY 34. Cheney, WA 35. Walled Lake, MI 36. East Clinton, OH 37. Deer Creek, OK 38. Campbell County, KY 39. Camdenton, MO 40. Center Grove, IN HOW DARE YOU NOT EVEN PLACE AMERICAN FORK!!! D:< D:< D:< I AM SO ASHAMED OF THIS LIST, AND HOW DARE YOU NOT HAVE WESTLAKE WINNING?????? >:( >:( >:( |
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Post by es203 on Oct 17, 2024 22:10:26 GMT -6
Ayo, first SC nats win this year? 😂 Honestly, if that does ever happen (probably in the very distant future) I think it would be Catawba Ridge. Feel like they’ll be at the top of SC sometime in the next 5-7 years. |
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Post by oboe12 on Oct 20, 2024 16:39:47 GMT -6
If you asked me ten years ago, I would have told you that Lambert would win a championship for Wando by now. So maybe it's just not in the cards for SC for a good, good while.
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Post by dbalash on Oct 20, 2024 18:13:56 GMT -6
If you asked me ten years ago, I would have told you that Lambert would win a championship for Wando by now. So maybe it's just not in the cards for SC for a good, good while. Wild to me that he’s been there 10 years already. |
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Post by neop on Oct 20, 2024 19:26:25 GMT -6
For those who haven't been watching the Ohio thread this year, my project for the 2024 marching band season was to watch and photograph as many unique bands from Ohio as I possibly could within a single season. While my upcoming attendance of Grand Nationals is contributing towards that Ohio-related goal, I'm really looking forward to all the new bands I'll get to see there from so many different states. I'm happy to report that if all goes well (as in, no last-minute cancellations), my attendance of Grand Nationals will push my total up to 275 unique bands seen this year.
- 183 from Ohio - 21 from Kentucky - 19 from Indiana - 7 from Michigan - 6 each from Tennessee and Texas
- 5 each from Illinois and Oklahoma
- 4 from Missouri - 3 each from Florida and North Carolina
- 2 each from Georgia, Mississippi, South Carolina, and Utah
- 1 each from Alabama, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, Washington, Wisconsin, and West Virginia I'm really happy with the success of this project so far and it has been a great outlet for my photography hobby  can't wait to see everyone next month! |
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Post by dbbandalum on Oct 20, 2024 19:51:19 GMT -6
Very big bias here (and maybe some copium), but I still think DB has a chance of making Finals. While losing to JFB and Lafayette was definitely a shock, these two are on the run of a lifetime this year. We've seen DB come back from worse situations. Another AAA championship maybe a bit out of reach this year, but a 12th-10th place finish is still very likely in my eyes.
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Post by Subito Fortissimo on Oct 20, 2024 20:28:39 GMT -6
For those who haven't been watching the Ohio thread this year, my project for the 2024 marching band season was to watch and photograph as many unique bands from Ohio as I possibly could within a single season. While my upcoming attendance of Grand Nationals is contributing towards that Ohio-related goal, I'm really looking forward to all the new bands I'll get to see there from so many different states. I'm happy to report that if all goes well (as in, no last-minute cancellations), my attendance of Grand Nationals will push my total up to 275 unique bands seen this year.
- 183 from Ohio - 21 from Kentucky - 19 from Indiana - 7 from Michigan - 6 each from Tennessee and Texas
- 5 from Illinois - 4 from Oklahoma - 3 each from Florida, Missouri, and North Carolina
- 2 each from Georgia, Mississippi, South Carolina, and Utah
- 1 each from Alabama, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, Washington, Wisconsin, and West Virginia I'm really happy with the success of this project so far and it has been a great outlet for my photography hobby can't wait to see everyone next month! Just want to say this a really cool project! Must be awesome to see and photograph so many unique bands. |
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Post by bandnerdatl on Oct 20, 2024 20:29:50 GMT -6
If I should post this somewhere else please let me know.
Don’t know where to put this so this feels like the best place. It feels like they need to start separating grand nats into 1A/2A and 3A/4A or something similar. Just feels with 113 bands going this year these smaller bands have less and less chance of winning anything. I know there’s class representatives but it’s just not the same chance as most never see GN finals. Not sure what the best solution to this is but most state championships are by size so feels GN should be the same. You can obviously win your class but it just doesn’t feel the same as being a GN finalist band something that is much harder for smaller groups. Any and all thoughts welcome.
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Post by hewhowaits on Oct 21, 2024 7:38:57 GMT -6
For those who haven't been watching the Ohio thread this year, my project for the 2024 marching band season was to watch and photograph as many unique bands from Ohio as I possibly could within a single season. While my upcoming attendance of Grand Nationals is contributing towards that Ohio-related goal, I'm really looking forward to all the new bands I'll get to see there from so many different states. I'm happy to report that if all goes well (as in, no last-minute cancellations), my attendance of Grand Nationals will push my total up to 275 unique bands seen this year.
- 183 from Ohio - 21 from Kentucky - 19 from Indiana - 7 from Michigan - 6 each from Tennessee and Texas
- 5 from Illinois - 4 from Oklahoma - 3 each from Florida, Missouri, and North Carolina
- 2 each from Georgia, Mississippi, South Carolina, and Utah
- 1 each from Alabama, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, Washington, Wisconsin, and West Virginia I'm really happy with the success of this project so far and it has been a great outlet for my photography hobby can't wait to see everyone next month! Great project. I don't get to watch all the shows because of event staff duties, but by the end of Grand Nationals I will have interacted on some level with 388 unique bands from 31 states (or 389 if the 114th band for GN gets all their fees paid). |
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Post by philodemus on Oct 21, 2024 8:29:35 GMT -6
If I should post this somewhere else please let me know. Don’t know where to put this so this feels like the best place. It feels like they need to start separating grand nats into 1A/2A and 3A/4A or something similar. Just feels with 113 bands going this year these smaller bands have less and less chance of winning anything. I know there’s class representatives but it’s just not the same chance as most never see GN finals. Not sure what the best solution to this is but most state championships are by size so feels GN should be the same. You can obviously win your class but it just doesn’t feel the same as being a GN finalist band something that is much harder for smaller groups. Any and all thoughts welcome. Small school guy myself, so I feel your concerns. But, that said... The first trouble would be in finding two venues. Lucas Oil is pretty perfect, but already spoken for most weekends in the fall. Someone would have to be at an inferior facility and I'll give you 1 guess which it would be. Second, sometimes the 1A/2A groups can make semifinals or even finals on score. We want to give them that fighting chance of David against Goliath. Third, if you do manage to win 1A or 2A, you get the chance to perform in front of the biggest band crowd in the world on the biggest night on the band calendar. That's pretty great, and we don't want to deny our small schools the chance to earn that spotlight. I think there are ways we can tweak the Grand Nationals experience to make it better for the small schools, but I would not be in favor of separating us off into our own event. |
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Post by 70sguardchick on Oct 21, 2024 9:18:20 GMT -6
If I should post this somewhere else please let me know. Don’t know where to put this so this feels like the best place. It feels like they need to start separating grand nats into 1A/2A and 3A/4A or something similar. Just feels with 113 bands going this year these smaller bands have less and less chance of winning anything. I know there’s class representatives but it’s just not the same chance as most never see GN finals. Not sure what the best solution to this is but most state championships are by size so feels GN should be the same. You can obviously win your class but it just doesn’t feel the same as being a GN finalist band something that is much harder for smaller groups. Any and all thoughts welcome. Small school guy myself, so I feel your concerns. But, that said... The first trouble would be in finding two venues. Lucas Oil is pretty perfect, but already spoken for most weekends in the fall. Someone would have to be at an inferior facility and I'll give you 1 guess which it would be. Second, sometimes the 1A/2A groups can make semifinals or even finals on score. We want to give them that fighting chance of David against Goliath. Third, if you do manage to win 1A or 2A, you get the chance to perform in front of the biggest band crowd in the world on the biggest night on the band calendar. That's pretty great, and we don't want to deny our small schools the chance to earn that spotlight. I think there are ways we can tweak the Grand Nationals experience to make it better for the small schools, but I would not be in favor of separating us off into our own event. This - plus you would have to do it on two different weekends, which then starts to conflict with state competitions around the same time. Splitting into two would then basically create two Super Regional sized competitions. Class awards at Prelims does give a level of recognition to smaller schools, and they are presented on the national stage. I was a bit surprised to see how many smaller schools did not stick around for Prelim Class Awards at Indy Super, even some who placed.... |
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Post by paddy on Oct 21, 2024 12:34:42 GMT -6
Small school guy myself, so I feel your concerns. But, that said... The first trouble would be in finding two venues. Lucas Oil is pretty perfect, but already spoken for most weekends in the fall. Someone would have to be at an inferior facility and I'll give you 1 guess which it would be. Second, sometimes the 1A/2A groups can make semifinals or even finals on score. We want to give them that fighting chance of David against Goliath. Third, if you do manage to win 1A or 2A, you get the chance to perform in front of the biggest band crowd in the world on the biggest night on the band calendar. That's pretty great, and we don't want to deny our small schools the chance to earn that spotlight. I think there are ways we can tweak the Grand Nationals experience to make it better for the small schools, but I would not be in favor of separating us off into our own event. This - plus you would have to do it on two different weekends, which then starts to conflict with state competitions around the same time. Splitting into two would then basically create two Super Regional sized competitions. Class awards at Prelims does give a level of recognition to smaller schools, and they are presented on the national stage. I was a bit surprised to see how many smaller schools did not stick around for Prelim Class Awards at Indy Super, even some who placed.... 1. It can be done the same weekend so you don't have to find a spot in the calendar nor a new venue. 2. It can be structured in a way that band who is able to compete can still be in the bog school show. 3. These ideas have all be thoroughly discussed in other threads. I will find them bump them up some time. |
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Post by 70sguardchick on Oct 21, 2024 12:44:19 GMT -6
This - plus you would have to do it on two different weekends, which then starts to conflict with state competitions around the same time. Splitting into two would then basically create two Super Regional sized competitions. Class awards at Prelims does give a level of recognition to smaller schools, and they are presented on the national stage. I was a bit surprised to see how many smaller schools did not stick around for Prelim Class Awards at Indy Super, even some who placed.... 1. It can be done the same weekend so you don't have to find a spot in the calendar nor a new venue. 2. It can be structured in a way that band who is able to compete can still be in the bog school show. 3. These ideas have all be thoroughly discussed in other threads. I will find them bump them up some time. So you are envisioning having, say, a small school competition maybe in the early blocks of Thursday with a winner and then the larger schools competing after that wraps up, with smaller schools who want to go again in the "big show" sticking around? Interesting....on behalf of all the event staff please don't suggest adding a Wednesday competition day.....we will be small worn out nubs if that happened.... |
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Post by hewhowaits on Oct 21, 2024 13:34:43 GMT -6
This - plus you would have to do it on two different weekends, which then starts to conflict with state competitions around the same time. Splitting into two would then basically create two Super Regional sized competitions. Class awards at Prelims does give a level of recognition to smaller schools, and they are presented on the national stage. I was a bit surprised to see how many smaller schools did not stick around for Prelim Class Awards at Indy Super, even some who placed.... 1. It can be done the same weekend so you don't have to find a spot in the calendar nor a new venue. 2. It can be structured in a way that band who is able to compete can still be in the bog school show. 3. These ideas have all be thoroughly discussed in other threads. I will find them bump them up some time. You are absolutely correct. It CAN be done, but only if the organization wants to make the effort. Workable options include Thursday being A/AA (or AAA/AAAA) prelims, Friday being AAA/AAAA (or A/AA) prelims, Saturday being A/AA finals plus AAA/AAAA finals with 15 bands each. Saturday night is a celebration and overall finals that includes at a minimum each class champion and a minimum of five total bands from each set among the fourteen finalists (no exhibitions - class champions are competing). |
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Post by hewhowaits on Oct 21, 2024 13:35:48 GMT -6
1. It can be done the same weekend so you don't have to find a spot in the calendar nor a new venue. 2. It can be structured in a way that band who is able to compete can still be in the bog school show. 3. These ideas have all be thoroughly discussed in other threads. I will find them bump them up some time. So you are envisioning having, say, a small school competition maybe in the early blocks of Thursday with a winner and then the larger schools competing after that wraps up, with smaller schools who want to go again in the "big show" sticking around? Interesting....on behalf of all the event staff please don't suggest adding a Wednesday competition day.....we will be small worn out nubs if that happened.... Don't put that extra day thing out there in the universe! |
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Post by paddy on Oct 21, 2024 13:51:42 GMT -6
Found the post: hornrank.proboards.com/post/47615No Wednesday performances (though there is version in that thread about a Wednesday afternoon/evening opportunity for local bands) Now we should get back to the 2024 GN discussion |
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Post by 70sguardchick on Oct 21, 2024 14:51:53 GMT -6
So you are envisioning having, say, a small school competition maybe in the early blocks of Thursday with a winner and then the larger schools competing after that wraps up, with smaller schools who want to go again in the "big show" sticking around? Interesting....on behalf of all the event staff please don't suggest adding a Wednesday competition day.....we will be small worn out nubs if that happened.... Don't put that extra day thing out there in the universe! Lord, no. I cannot deal with more than two nights in a row of 4 hours sleep. |
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Post by philodemus on Oct 21, 2024 15:01:31 GMT -6
This - plus you would have to do it on two different weekends, which then starts to conflict with state competitions around the same time. Splitting into two would then basically create two Super Regional sized competitions. Class awards at Prelims does give a level of recognition to smaller schools, and they are presented on the national stage. I was a bit surprised to see how many smaller schools did not stick around for Prelim Class Awards at Indy Super, even some who placed.... 1. It can be done the same weekend so you don't have to find a spot in the calendar nor a new venue. 2. It can be structured in a way that band who is able to compete can still be in the bog school show. 3. These ideas have all be thoroughly discussed in other threads. I will find them bump them up some time. We do not disagree at all, we are merely conceiving of it differently. I would still consider this a single Grand Nats, not a separate event, but this difference is, of course, semantic. |
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Post by philodemus on Oct 21, 2024 15:03:39 GMT -6
Found the post: hornrank.proboards.com/post/47615No Wednesday performances (though there is version in that thread about a Wednesday afternoon/evening opportunity for local bands) Now we should get back to the 2024 GN discussion I remember this post/idea... sound great to me. |
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westlakeutbanddad
Junior Member
1985 & 86 NW BOA Participant w/ Hermiston HS/ Westlake UT Parent & Booster 2009-forever
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Post by westlakeutbanddad on Oct 22, 2024 0:32:01 GMT -6
My "fan with just enough knowledge to be dangerous predictions for semis" (just top 30):
In no particular order:
Panel 1:
O'Fallon Township
William Mason
Lincoln-Way Community
Westlake
Center Grove
Avon
Prosper
Cedar Park
Union
Bartlett
Lakota East
Panel 2:
Broken Arrow
American Fork
Brownsburg
Carmel
Dobyns-Bennett
Castle
Leander
Tarpon Springs
Bridgeland
Stoneman-Douglas
Homestead
Next 8:
Catawba Ridge
Jenks
Jenison
Fishers
Noblesville
Lawrence Township
Norwin
Mustang
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Post by mtnxdrew on Oct 22, 2024 4:44:46 GMT -6
My "fan with just enough knowledge to be dangerous predictions for semis" (just top 30): In no particular order: Panel 1: O'Fallon Township William Mason Lincoln-Way Community Westlake Center Grove Avon Prosper Cedar Park Union Bartlett Lakota East Panel 2: Broken Arrow American Fork Brownsburg Carmel Dobyns-Bennett Castle Leander Tarpon Springs Bridgeland Stoneman-Douglas Homestead Next 8: Catawba Ridge Jenks Jenison Fishers Noblesville Lawrence Township Norwin Mustang These are good. The only thing I would say is, watch for Rockford to make semis, whether it be in the top 11 of Panel 1, or the next 8. Last weekend at a MCBA competition, they were nearly 2 points ahead of Jenison after being 2 points behind them at Toledo. MCBA and BOA sheets are slightly different, but still. |
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Post by marchingartsfan on Oct 22, 2024 10:56:26 GMT -6
These are good. The only thing I would say is, watch for Rockford to make semis, whether it be in the top 11 of Panel 1, or the next 8. Last weekend at a MCBA competition, they were nearly 2 points ahead of Jenison after being 2 points behind them at Toledo. MCBA and BOA sheets are slightly different, but still. I was at the show. I would probably agree that Rockford was a little better than Jenison, just maybe not 2 points. I like Jenison's show better though. On the sheets thing, I personally despise MCBA sheets. Trying to extrapolate anything from them is a lost cause. They've played around with point floors, caps, adding captions, and all it's really done is make the judges' jobs harder imo. There were some very strange ordinals in a few captions that truly had me scratching my head the end of the night lol |
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Post by mtnxdrew on Oct 22, 2024 12:20:08 GMT -6
These are good. The only thing I would say is, watch for Rockford to make semis, whether it be in the top 11 of Panel 1, or the next 8. Last weekend at a MCBA competition, they were nearly 2 points ahead of Jenison after being 2 points behind them at Toledo. MCBA and BOA sheets are slightly different, but still. I was at the show. I would probably agree that Rockford was a little better than Jenison, just maybe not 2 points. I like Jenison's show better though. On the sheets thing, I personally despise MCBA sheets. Trying to extrapolate anything from them is a lost cause. They've played around with point floors, caps, adding captions, and all it's really done is make the judges' jobs harder imo. There were some very strange ordinals in a few captions that truly had me scratching my head the end of the night lol Agree 100%. Rockford was ahead of Jenison in all captions, and sub captions, aside from Auxiliary and Percussion (not included in final score) where Jenison had a 19.10 in both 😳 MCBA needs to stick with one scoring system and roll with it. All these changes need to stop. |
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glmain
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Post by glmain on Oct 22, 2024 17:53:49 GMT -6
Very big bias here (and maybe some copium), but I still think DB has a chance of making Finals. While losing to JFB and Lafayette was definitely a shock, these two are on the run of a lifetime this year. We've seen DB come back from worse situations. Another AAA championship maybe a bit out of reach this year, but a 12th-10th place finish is still very likely in my eyes. For what it's worth, I'd be pretty surprised if DB missed finals. They still could of course, there's lots of great bands that will play and march their hearts out for those spots. But DB knows what it takes, and they will be highly motivated after Johnson City. Also from what I've seen, I think their show is deceptively challenging. They definitely have lots of room to clean and max out. |
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Post by jeremy2712 on Oct 25, 2024 21:25:55 GMT -6
Very big bias here (and maybe some copium), but I still think DB has a chance of making Finals. While losing to JFB and Lafayette was definitely a shock, these two are on the run of a lifetime this year. We've seen DB come back from worse situations. Another AAA championship maybe a bit out of reach this year, but a 12th-10th place finish is still very likely in my eyes. For what it's worth, I'd be pretty surprised if DB missed finals. They still could of course, there's lots of great bands that will play and march their hearts out for those spots. But DB knows what it takes, and they will be highly motivated after Johnson City. Also from what I've seen, I think their show is deceptively challenging. They definitely have lots of room to clean and max out. It's easy to forget that DB is playing the GN game and GN length of season. Lafayette and JFB have seasons that are paced to end much earlier and much differently. |
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can't wait to see everyone next month! 
