2024 Grand Nationals - Indianapolis, IN (Nov. 14-16, 2024)

[yayband914]

Prelims Schedule as of 09/27

THURSDAY:
Panel 1
7:00 - Valley H.S., KY
7:15 - Clarksville H.S., TN
7:30 - Monticello H.S., IL
7:45 - Herscher H.S., IL
8:00 - Colerain H.S., OH
8:15 - South Dearborn H.S., IN
8:30 - Cambridge H.S., GA
8:45 - Batesville H.S., IN
9:00 - Owen County H.S., KY
9:15 - Norwood H.S., OH

Panel 2
9:30 - Simon Kenton H.S., KY
9:45 - Murray H.S., KY
10:00 - Boyle County H.S., KY
10:15 - Ben Davis H.S., IN
10:30 - Clinton-Massie H.S., OH
10:45 - Hardin Valley Academy, TN
11:00 - Garrard County H.S., KY
11:15 - Avon H.S., OH
11:30 - Archbishop Alter H.S., OH

11:45 - IPS Showcase

Panel 1
12:15 - O'Fallon Township H.S., IL
12:30 - Springboro H.S., OH
12:45 - South Oldham H.S., KY
1:00 - Kalida H.S., OH
1:15 - West Carrollton H.S., OH
1:30 - Tippecanoe H.S., OH
1:45 - Marion Local H.S., OH
2:00 - Greenfield Central H.S., IN
2:15 - Anderson County H.S., KY
2:30 - Walter E. Stebbins H.S., OH

Panel 2
2:45 - Noblesville H.S., IN
3:00 - Lawrence Township, IN
3:15 - South Point H.S., OH
3:30 - Reeths-Puffer H.S., MI
3:45 - Kickapoo H.S., MO
4:00 - DeWitt H.S., MI
4:15 - Walled Lake H.S., MI
4:30 - Broken Arrow H.S., OK
4:45 - East Clinton H.S., OH
5:00 - Friendswood H.S., TX
5:15 - Campbell County H.S., KY
5:30 - Hamilton H.S., OH

Panel 1
5:45 - Miamisburg H.S., OH
6:00 - William Mason H.S., OH
6:15 - Marian Catholic H.S., IL
6:30 - Floyd Central H.S., IN
6:45 - Monrovia H.S., IN
7:00 - Lincoln-Way Community H.S., IL
7:15 - John Hardin H.S., KY
7:30 - Westlake H.S., UT
7:45 - Center Grove H.S., IN
8:00 - Avon H.S., IN

8:15 - BREAK

Panel 2
8:30 - Centerville H.S., OH
8:45 - American Fork H.S., UT
9:00 - Brownsburg H.S., IN
9:15 - Columbus H.S., IN
9:30 - Carmel H.S., IN
9:45 - Fishers H.S., IN
10:00 - Christian Academy of Louisville, KY
10:15 - Dobyns-Bennett H.S., TN
10:30 - Castle H.S., IN
10:45 - Norwin H.S., PA


FRIDAY:
Panel 1
7:00 - Nicholas County H.S., KY
7:15 - Bob Jones H.S., AL
7:30 - Green Level H.S., NC
7:45 - Franklin H.S., TN
8:00 - Catawba Ridge H.S., SC
8:15 - Prosper H.S., TX
8:30 - Summit H.S., TN
8:45 - Cass H.S., GA
9:00 - Camdenton H.S, MO
9:15 - Cedar Park H.S., TX
9:30 - Deer Creek H.S., OK
9:45 - Jenks H.S., OK
10:00 - Union H.S., OK

10:15 - BREAK

Panel 2
10:30 - Nixa H.S., MO
10:45 - Newberry H.S., FL
11:00 - Leander H.S., TX
11:15 - Rosemount H.S., MN
11:30 - DeSoto Central H.S., MS
11:45 - Argyle H.S., TX
12:00 - Panther Creek H.S., NC
12:15 - Tarpon Springs H.S., FL
12:30 - Cheney H.S., WA
12:45 - Mustang H.S., OK
1:00 - Bridgeland H.S., TX
1:15 - Stoneman Douglas H.S., FL
1:30 - South Jones H.S., MS

1:45 - BREAK

Panel 1
2:00 - Hollister H.S., MO
2:15 - Bartlett H.S., TN
2:30 - Meade County H.S., KY
2:45 - Shawe Memorial H.S., IN
3:00 - Lakota East H.S., OH
3:15 - Rockford H.S., MI
3:30 - Plymouth-Canton E.P., MI
3:45 - Huron Valley Marching Band, MI
4:00 - Greendale H.S., WI
4:15 - Pulaski County H.S., KY
4:30 - Clover H.S., SC
4:45 - Bourbon County H.S., KY
5:00 - Goshen H.S., IN

5:15 - BREAK

Panel 2
5:30 - Norton H.S., OH
5:45 - Dixie Heights H.S., KY
6:00 - Warren Local H.S., OH
6:15 - Worthington Kilbourne H.S., OH
6:30 - Homestead H.S., IN
6:45 - Milford H.S., OH
7:00 - Lebanon H.S., OH
7:15 - Finneytown H.S., OH
7:30 - Bellbrook H.S., OH
7:45 - Cary H.S., NC
8:00 - Central Crossing H.S., OH
8:15 - Carlisle H.S., OH
8:30 - Jenison H.S., MI

8:45 - EXH. Missouri State Univ. Pride Marching Band


CLASS A:
Archbishop Alter H.S., OH
Batesville H.S., IN
Bourbon County H.S., KY
Carlisle H.S., OH
Christian Academy of Louisville, KY
Clinton-Massie H.S., OH
East Clinton H.S., OH
Finneytown H.S., OH
Herscher H.S., IL
Hollister H.S., MO
Kalida H.S., OH
Marian Catholic H.S., IL
Marion Local H.S., OH
Monrovia H.S., IN
Monticello H.S., IL
Murray H.S., KY
Newberry H.S., FL
Nicholas County H.S., KY
Norton H.S., OH
Norwood H.S., OH
Owen County H.S., KY
Shawe Memorial H.S., IN
South Dearborn H.S., IN
South Point H.S., OH
Valley H.S., KY
Warren Local H.S., OH

CLASS AA:
Anderson County H.S., KY
Argyle H.S., TX
Avon H.S., OH
Bellbrook H.S., OH
Boyle County H.S., KY
Cambridge H.S., GA
Camdenton H.S., MO
Campbell County H.S., KY
Cass H.S., GA
Catawba Ridge H.S., SC
Central Crossing H.S., OH
Cheney H.S., WA
Clarksville H.S., TN
DeWitt H.S., MI
Dixie Heights H.S., KY
Garrard County H.S., KY
Goshen H.S., IN
Greendale H.S., WI
Greenfield-Central H.S., IN
Jenison H.S., MI
John Hardin H.S., KY
Meade County H.S., KY
Miamisburg H.S., OH
Norwin H.S., PA
Pulaski County H.S., KY
Reeths-Puffer H.S., MI
South Jones H.S., MS
South Oldham H.S., KY
Summit H.S., TN
Tarpon Springs H.S., FL
Tippecanoe H.S., OH
Walter E. Stebbins H.S., OH
West Carrollton H.S., OH
Worthington Kilbourne H.S., OH

CLASS AAA:
Bob Jones H.S., AL
Cary H.S., NC
Castle H.S., IN
Cedar Park H.S., TX
Colerain H.S., OH
Deer Creek H.S., OK
DeSoto Central H.S., MS
Dobyns-Bennett H.S., TN
Floyd Central H.S., IN
Franklin H.S., TN
Friendswood H.S., TX
Green Level H.S., NC
Hamilton H.S., OH
Hardin Valley Academy, TN
Kickapoo H.S., MO
Leander H.S., TX
Lebanon H.S., OH
Milford H.S., OH
Nixa H.S., MO
Rockford H.S., MI
Rosemount H.S., MN
Simon Kenton H.S., KY
Springboro H.S., OH
Walled Lake Schools, MI

CLASS AAAA:
American Fork H.S., UT
Avon H.S., IN
Bartlett H.S., TN
Ben Davis H.S., IN
Bridgeland H.S., TX
Broken Arrow H.S., OK
Brownsburg H.S., IN
Carmel H.S., IN
Center Grove H.S., IN
Centerville H.S., OH
Clover H.S., SC
Columbus Schools, IN
Fishers H.S., IN
Homestead H.S., IN
Huron Valley Schools, MI
Jenks H.S., OK
Lakota East H.S., OH
Lawrence Township, IN
Lincoln-Way H.S., IL
Mustang H.S., OK
Noblesville H.S., IN
O’Fallon Township H.S., IL
Panther Creek H.S., NC
Plymouth-Canton E.P., MI
Prosper H.S., TX
Stoneman Douglas H.S., FL
Union H.S., OK
Westlake H.S., UT
William Mason H.S., OH

[ccbop]

You need to watch out for Campbell. They just stole a caption from William Mason the 5A MSBA Championships (guard) and one music judge even placed them first. They overall scored an 88.5

[trumpet300]

Nov 9, 2024 20:11:21 GMT -6 ccbop said:

You need to watch out for Campbell. They just stole a caption from William Mason the 5A MSBA Championships (guard) and one music judge even placed them first. They overall scored an 88.5

I'm not saying that this doesn't hold weight, but an MSBA show/sheet and a BOA show/sheet don't necessarily value the same types of things. I don't know this for sure but generally speaking it is really hard to look at local scores/circuits and make a direct comparison or prediction regarding BOA.

[KentGrayland]

Leander didn't make finals at San Antonio tonight.
Can't help but question if that result will be indicative of how they'll do here. Maybe it'll open the door for another bubble band to make finals. Guess we'll see next week.

[ccbop]

Nov 9, 2024 20:44:00 GMT -6 trumpet300 said:

Nov 9, 2024 20:11:21 GMT -6 ccbop said:

You need to watch out for Campbell. They just stole a caption from William Mason the 5A MSBA Championships (guard) and one music judge even placed them first. They overall scored an 88.5

I'm not saying that this doesn't hold weight, but an MSBA show/sheet and a BOA show/sheet don't necessarily value the same types of things. I don't know this for sure but generally speaking it is really hard to look at local scores/circuits and make a direct comparison or prediction regarding BOA.

I fully understand I just am taking it as Mason is generally a BOA GN finalist level band and for Campbell, a band who has never made semis, to take a caption and sub caption means a lot for next week no matter the format.

[OHbandfan]

Nov 9, 2024 21:09:10 GMT -6 ccbop said:

Nov 9, 2024 20:44:00 GMT -6 trumpet300 said:

I'm not saying that this doesn't hold weight, but an MSBA show/sheet and a BOA show/sheet don't necessarily value the same types of things. I don't know this for sure but generally speaking it is really hard to look at local scores/circuits and make a direct comparison or prediction regarding BOA.

I fully understand I just am taking it as Mason is generally a BOA GN finalist level band and for Campbell, a band who has never made semis, to take a caption and sub caption means a lot for next week no matter the format.

Mason tends to lose the auxiliary caption in MSBA. And typically to Miamisburg, who doesn’t usually make it close enough to finals. MSBA trends a little more generous to bands in terms of score as well most of the time. Campbell is having a GREAT season, and I expect great things from them in the future, look for them to possibly make it to top 20 in a year that’s not as top heavy, top 25 maybe this year

[yayband914]

Nov 9, 2024 21:04:01 GMT -6 KentGrayland said:

Leander didn't make finals at San Antonio tonight.
Can't help but question if that result will be indicative of how they'll do here. Maybe it'll open the door for another bubble band to make finals. Guess we'll see next week.

You obviously don’t know the story of Southlake Carroll 2022.

[KentGrayland]

Nov 9, 2024 21:17:49 GMT -6 yayband914 said:

Nov 9, 2024 21:04:01 GMT -6 KentGrayland said:

Leander didn't make finals at San Antonio tonight.
Can't help but question if that result will be indicative of how they'll do here. Maybe it'll open the door for another bubble band to make finals. Guess we'll see next week.

You obviously don’t know the story of Southlake Carroll 2022.

Texas is so huge and has so many talented bands that it's hard for me to keep up with haha. I don't keep up with all their regionals every year. From time to time i do tune in to BOA Austin or Bedford but that's about it. 


Part of me got excited that it would give the opportunity to a non-lock group like O'Fallon, Brownsburg, or Homestead to make it in.

[yayband914]

Nov 9, 2024 21:25:39 GMT -6 KentGrayland said:

Nov 9, 2024 21:17:49 GMT -6 yayband914 said:

You obviously don’t know the story of Southlake Carroll 2022.

Texas is so huge and has so many talented bands that it's hard for me to keep up with haha. I don't keep up with all their regionals every year. From time to time i do tune in to BOA Austin or Bedford but that's about it. 


Part of me got excited that it would give the opportunity to a non-lock group like O'Fallon, Brownsburg, or Homestead to make it in.

Southlake Carroll placed 25th at San Antonio only to place 7th in Grand National Finals a week or two later.

[Jake W.]

Nov 9, 2024 21:34:18 GMT -6 yayband914 said:

Nov 9, 2024 21:25:39 GMT -6 KentGrayland said:

Texas is so huge and has so many talented bands that it's hard for me to keep up with haha. I don't keep up with all their regionals every year. From time to time i do tune in to BOA Austin or Bedford but that's about it. 


Part of me got excited that it would give the opportunity to a non-lock group like O'Fallon, Brownsburg, or Homestead to make it in.

Southlake Carroll placed 25th at San Antonio only to place 7th in Grand National Finals a week or two later.

That was Hendrickson! Today was SLC’s first-ever performance at BOASA.

[yayband914]

Nov 9, 2024 21:34:18 GMT -6 yayband914 said:

Nov 9, 2024 21:25:39 GMT -6 KentGrayland said:

Texas is so huge and has so many talented bands that it's hard for me to keep up with haha. I don't keep up with all their regionals every year. From time to time i do tune in to BOA Austin or Bedford but that's about it. 


Part of me got excited that it would give the opportunity to a non-lock group like O'Fallon, Brownsburg, or Homestead to make it in.

Southlake Carroll placed 25th at San Antonio only to place 7th in Grand National Finals a week or two later.

Oh dang, that’s right! Got my wires crossed. Hendrickson got 9th in Finals — still an impressive feat!

[OHbandfan]

Nov 9, 2024 22:07:09 GMT -6 yayband914 said:

Nov 9, 2024 21:34:18 GMT -6 yayband914 said:

Southlake Carroll placed 25th at San Antonio only to place 7th in Grand National Finals a week or two later.

Oh dang, that’s right! Got my wires crossed. Hendrickson got 9th in Finals — still an impressive feat!

I’m almost positive Round Rock has missed and made GN finals as well

Edit: 2017. 18th at SASR, 12th in GN finals

[Saturno]

Nov 9, 2024 22:09:58 GMT -6 OHbandfan said:

Nov 9, 2024 22:07:09 GMT -6 yayband914 said:

Oh dang, that’s right! Got my wires crossed. Hendrickson got 9th in Finals — still an impressive feat!

I’m almost positive Round Rock has missed and made GN finals as well

Edit: 2017. 18th at SASR, 12th in GN finals

To add to this: Prosper in 2018

16th at BOA SA
11th at BOA GN

[Saturno]

Nov 9, 2024 22:07:09 GMT -6 yayband914 said:

Nov 9, 2024 21:34:18 GMT -6 yayband914 said:

Southlake Carroll placed 25th at San Antonio only to place 7th in Grand National Finals a week or two later.

Oh dang, that’s right! Got my wires crossed. Hendrickson got 9th in Finals — still an impressive feat!

Perhaps you were confusing Southlake Carroll’s finish at the DFW Regional for the SA Super.


In 2022, Southlake Carroll missed finals at the DFW Regional - coming in at 13th place only to make finals at Grand Nationals later that year with a 9th place finish. Still pretty impressive. Able to make GN Finals but not finals at a local Regional.
Goes to show how deep the field in Texas is.

[Allohak]

Nov 9, 2024 23:10:33 GMT -6 Saturno said:

Nov 9, 2024 22:07:09 GMT -6 yayband914 said:

Oh dang, that’s right! Got my wires crossed. Hendrickson got 9th in Finals — still an impressive feat!

Perhaps you were confusing Southlake Carroll’s finish at the DFW Regional for the SA Super.


In 2022, Southlake Carroll missed finals at the DFW Regional - coming in at 13th place only to make finals at Grand Nationals later that year with a 9th place finish. Still pretty impressive. Able to make GN Finals but not finals at a local Regional.
Goes to show how important planning your season out to peak at the right time is.

fify

[KentGrayland]

Nov 9, 2024 23:12:58 GMT -6 Allohak said:

Nov 9, 2024 23:10:33 GMT -6 Saturno said:

Perhaps you were confusing Southlake Carroll’s finish at the DFW Regional for the SA Super.


In 2022, Southlake Carroll missed finals at the DFW Regional - coming in at 13th place only to make finals at Grand Nationals later that year with a 9th place finish. Still pretty impressive. Able to make GN Finals but not finals at a local Regional.
Goes to show how important planning your season out to peak at the right time is.

fify

Both are true.  ◡̈  

[LoneStarBrass]

Leander will Final at GN’s! SASR field depth is just ridiculous year over year.

Leander Homer ✅

[OHbandfan]

This year seems to be the year of spice. More so than past years… super excited to see what spice GN will have. New champion? A medal no one is expecting? Only days to go!!

[KentGrayland]

Nov 10, 2024 1:13:16 GMT -6 OHbandfan said:

This year seems to be the year of spice. More so than past years… super excited to see what spice GN will have. New champion? A medal no one is expecting? Only days to go!!

I personally don't think it's as spicy as years past. Wouldn't be surprised to see Avon, Carmel, Tarpon Springs, Broken Arrow or William Mason medal. 2019 and 2021 are some of the spiciest seasons GN has seen, at least in my opinion. Grand Nationals is very top heavy this year, after that... it's anybody's game really.


Actually! IF William Mason did win it all (I wish they would) that would be super spicy.

[clarinote]

Leander was the last out band at the most competitive regional, which more competitive than Nationals. They will be fine here.

[mikkaa]

Yall are sweet. Just don't count out that amazing show from Newburg IN in Castle in your diabolical calculations. It's going to be tough but I think we may see 99 this year. As for who I think will win I may post my results after prelims but will for sure post my finals picks and finals placements. Also I understand ISSMA isn't BOA but scoring records were broken last night and Castle was back in Third. Carmel and Avon are back at the usual rivalry game but Carmel has yet to outscore Avon this season. Besides have you seen Mondriesque? If you have then you know. If you haven't then you will know eventually. I've been following TX and the other super regionals including Orlando. All I can say is I don't think I'm going to be surprised by the finals results. Will you? Have fun and enjoy the week.

[warehouse314]

Nov 10, 2024 9:51:03 GMT -6 mikkaa said:

Yall are sweet. Just don't count out that amazing show from Newburg IN in Castle in your diabolical calculations. It's going to be tough but I think we may see 99 this year. As for who I think will win I may post my results after prelims but will for sure post my finals picks and finals placements. Also I understand ISSMA isn't BOA but scoring records were broken last night and Castle was back in Third. Carmel and Avon are back at the usual rivalry game but Carmel has yet to outscore Avon this season. Besides have you seen Mondriesque? If you have then you know. If you haven't then you will know eventually. I've been following TX and the other super regionals including Orlando. All I can say is I don't think I'm going to be surprised by the finals results. Will you? Have fun and enjoy the week.

Avon's show is fantastic... but a slight correction to what you said. Carmel has "outscored" Avon this year.. at ISSMA Regional by .85 pts and Indy Super Regional prelims by 1.4 pts.

Excited to see how they both do next week!

[srv1084]

Let's not forget the "miss San Antonio but make GN finals" OG, James Bowie (2006).

[hewhowaits]

Nov 10, 2024 9:51:03 GMT -6 mikkaa said:

... but Carmel has yet to outscore Avon this season. 

October 12, ISSMA Class A Regional at Center Grove. Carmel beat Avon by nearly a point.
October 18, Indy SR Prelims (same panel). Carmel beat Avon by 1.4.

[Mississippi Band Lover]

Desoto Central's going to Grand Nationals again this year. They made semifinals in 2017 and just barely missed it in 2021. Think they'ss make it this time?

[yayband914]

Nov 12, 2024 11:13:50 GMT -6 Mississippi Band Lover said:

Desoto Central's going to Grand Nationals again this year. They made semifinals in 2017 and just barely missed it in 2021. Think they'ss make it this time?

Eh. Gonna be tough for them and many others!

[aguyfrommississip]

Nov 12, 2024 11:13:50 GMT -6 Mississippi Band Lover said:

Desoto Central's going to Grand Nationals again this year. They made semifinals in 2017 and just barely missed it in 2021. Think they'ss make it this time?

Desoto and South Jones gotta represent, hope Hernando or Germantown see if worthwhile to make a grand nats trip soon! I think both desoto and south jones have a chance of making semis

[jetliner]

Nov 9, 2024 22:09:58 GMT -6 OHbandfan said:

Nov 9, 2024 22:07:09 GMT -6 yayband914 said:

Oh dang, that’s right! Got my wires crossed. Hendrickson got 9th in Finals — still an impressive feat!

I’m almost positive Round Rock has missed and made GN finals as well

Edit: 2017. 18th at SASR, 12th in GN finals

For Round Rock, it's their ability to miss Austin finals and then make Nats finals