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Post by verysaxy on Oct 15, 2022 15:52:35 GMT -6
From prelims at GRC. Lafayette with an 89.1. Madison Central 88.5. Lafayette had some props malfunction due to high winds. It’ll be a great finals. If Lafayette can beat MC with prop malfunctions, I wouldn’t be surprised to see them take #23 at EKU in a few weeks.
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Post by TXHillCountryBands on Oct 15, 2022 16:31:21 GMT -6
Might this be a too overly “Texas” thing to say but is Indy maybe a redundant BOA comp considering ISSMA prelims and finals around same time time? St Louis and other BOA event happening almost perpendicularly? GN immediately following?
I’m probably wrong but I can’t be the only fan to see this? Let the tar and feathering begin 🐥 🤠
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Post by thewho on Oct 15, 2022 17:04:08 GMT -6
Might this be a too overly “Texas” thing to say but is Indy maybe a redundant BOA comp considering ISSMA prelims and finals around same time time? St Louis and other BOA event happening almost perpendicularly? GN immediately following? I’m probably wrong but I can’t be the only fan to see this? Let the tar and feathering begin 🐥 🤠 Indy Super is very popular amongst Indy bands because most will get the experience of playing inside Lucas Oil Stadium early on. Programs making finals here means they have a certain good shot at making ISSMA finals in their class, with this statement applying the most to ISSMA Class A. ISSMA Prelims that weekend is for the Scholastic Class, which is a competitive class where for bands with lower band numbers relative to their ISSMA classification. The ones you will see performing at Indy Super are Open Class. Not sure why you've been posting about tar and feathers in your last few posts. Mind explaining?
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Post by TXHillCountryBands on Oct 15, 2022 17:21:06 GMT -6
Might this be a too overly “Texas” thing to say but is Indy maybe a redundant BOA comp considering ISSMA prelims and finals around same time time? St Louis and other BOA event happening almost perpendicularly? GN immediately following? I’m probably wrong but I can’t be the only fan to see this? Let the tar and feathering begin 🐥 🤠 Indy Super is very popular amongst Indy bands because most will get the experience of playing inside Lucas Oil Stadium early on. Programs making finals here means they have a certain good shot at making ISSMA finals in their class, with this statement applying the most to ISSMA Class A. ISSMA Prelims that weekend is for the Scholastic Class, which is a competitive class where for bands with lower band numbers relative to their ISSMA classification. The ones you will see performing at Indy Super are Open Class. Not sure why you've been posting about tar and feathers in your last few posts. Mind explaining? I certainly respect your opinion amigo but after speaking to other pundits on this topic it is obvious that this has been an internal debate for years. Much of this contentiousness coming from the Midwest. Many have written on the subject. “Tar and feathering” comments is mostly my attempt at BOA humor. My wife says I’m not that funny so I can see your point! 🤠
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Post by bandalum15 on Oct 15, 2022 17:39:11 GMT -6
Indy Super is very popular amongst Indy bands because most will get the experience of playing inside Lucas Oil Stadium early on. Programs making finals here means they have a certain good shot at making ISSMA finals in their class, with this statement applying the most to ISSMA Class A. ISSMA Prelims that weekend is for the Scholastic Class, which is a competitive class where for bands with lower band numbers relative to their ISSMA classification. The ones you will see performing at Indy Super are Open Class. Not sure why you've been posting about tar and feathers in your last few posts. Mind explaining? I certainly respect your opinion amigo but after speaking to other pundits on this topic it is obvious that this has been an internal debate for years. Much of this contentiousness coming from the Midwest. Many have written on the subject. “Tar and feathering” comments is mostly my attempt at BOA humor. My wife says I’m not that funny so I can see your point! 🤠 I'm not really sure that I see your point, unless your point is simply that Indianapolis shouldn't have both GN's and a Super Regional. The ISSMA competitions shouldn't factor into that at all. And the Indy Super is clearly quite popular so I'm not really understanding the issue, or debate.
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Post by hewhowaits on Oct 15, 2022 17:46:31 GMT -6
Might this be a too overly “Texas” thing to say but is Indy maybe a redundant BOA comp considering ISSMA prelims and finals around same time time? St Louis and other BOA event happening almost perpendicularly? GN immediately following? I’m probably wrong but I can’t be the only fan to see this? Let the tar and feathering begin 🐥 🤠 Like SASR and UIL in less than a week?
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Post by TXHillCountryBands on Oct 15, 2022 18:34:09 GMT -6
Might this be a too overly “Texas” thing to say but is Indy maybe a redundant BOA comp considering ISSMA prelims and finals around same time time? St Louis and other BOA event happening almost perpendicularly? GN immediately following? I’m probably wrong but I can’t be the only fan to see this? Let the tar and feathering begin 🐥 🤠 Like SASR and UIL in less than a week? The discussion, debate was a predominantly a proximity (time and location) issue and how it could affected adjudication at GN. I believe Allohak and others discussed this years back. I’m probably wrong. Go Indy!
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Post by trumpette123 on Oct 15, 2022 18:43:01 GMT -6
Might this be a too overly “Texas” thing to say but is Indy maybe a redundant BOA comp considering ISSMA prelims and finals around same time time? St Louis and other BOA event happening almost perpendicularly? GN immediately following? I’m probably wrong but I can’t be the only fan to see this? Let the tar and feathering begin 🐥 🤠 I'm no expert but I could imagine all the more judge feedback could mean the difference for GN Champion, GN Finalist, or even GN Semifinalist for some of these bands. I also don't know how the judging works from comp to comp. But if judge that judges you in Indy SR finals is saying "These visuals aren't portraying to the box" and is judging you in GN Semi-finals two weeks later. That feedback could be very crucial to your focus at rehearsals zoning in on Nationals.
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Post by kybanddad911 on Oct 15, 2022 21:15:32 GMT -6
From prelims at GRC. Lafayette with an 89.1. Madison Central 88.5. Lafayette had some props malfunction due to high winds. It’ll be a great finals. If Lafayette can beat MC with prop malfunctions, I wouldn’t be surprised to see them take #23 at EKU in a few weeks. 1. Lafayette - 90.00 2. Madison Central - 89.05 Lafayette takes all 3 captures: GE, Visual, and Music
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Post by verysaxy on Oct 15, 2022 23:15:27 GMT -6
If Lafayette can beat MC with prop malfunctions, I wouldn’t be surprised to see them take #23 at EKU in a few weeks. 1. Lafayette - 90.00 2. Madison Central - 89.05 Lafayette takes all 3 captures: GE, Visual, and Music Thanks for the updates! I hate having to tread into the deep end and touch the state forums…
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Post by Shroom on Oct 16, 2022 12:14:53 GMT -6
Not sure how recent the recording of Avon is thats up on YT rn but based off of Blue Spring's performance last night Im not locked on how solid of a 2nd place they are.
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Post by bigtrombone on Oct 16, 2022 12:23:28 GMT -6
All I'm gonna say is, if y'all thought the St. Louis Super Regional was crazy, Indy is going to be NUTS. There's going to be a lot of good bands that won't make finals.
Anyway, here are my very likely wrong predictions:
1. Carmel H.S., IN - Panel 1 (Music, GE, AAAA Champion) 2. Blue Springs H.S., MO - Panel 1 (Visual, AAA Champion) 3. Avon H.S., IN - Panel 1 4. William Mason H.S., OH - Panel 2 5. Fishers H.S., IN - Panel 1 6. Castle H.S., IN - Panel 1 7. Lincoln-Way Community H.S., IL - Panel 2 8. Brownsburg H.S., IN - Panel 2 9. Centerville H.S., OH - Panel 2 10. Homestead H.S., IN - Panel 2 11. Lafayette H.S., KY - Panel 2 (Next 4) 12. Grain Valley H.S., MO - Panel 2 (Next 4) (AA Champion) 13. Jenks H.S., OK - Panel 2 (Next 4) 14. Goshen H.S., IN - Panel 1 (Next 4)
Class A Champion: Union City H.S., TN
Bubble Bands that I could also see making the Next 4: Camdenton, Kennesaw Mountain, Franklin, Center Grove
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Post by TeamIndiana on Oct 16, 2022 12:31:01 GMT -6
Not sure how recent the recording of Avon is thats up on YT rn but based off of Blue Spring's performance last night Im not locked on how solid of a 2nd place they are. That video was from this weekend at the Southern ISSMA Regional. I have not seen them in person, but I do agree that I was rather surprised after seeing the video. This show does not scream eagle contender to me and I wouldn’t be surprised if Blue Springs beats them. It just feels like it’s missing something. As already mentioned, the Indy Super Regional is completely stacked this year which is going to make for some shocking moments I’m sure.
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Post by Jake W. on Oct 16, 2022 13:26:05 GMT -6
I found the Avon show on YouTube as well, and I'm a bit conflicted. This is STRONG group they are fielding this year - they sound and look absolutely incredible for this point in the season! It's a meaty, hefty music book chockfull of full ensemble playing laid upon the usual insanely demanding drill. I'm honestly pretty surprised (and pleased) with how great they sound - they're fielding a BIG music book this season.
But I can't help but note that the design is pretty bare. I rewatched BA on YouTube immediately after and BA for sure is going for simplicity and understatement in their theme this year, but the design is still quite layered and super complex; I'm not sure if the same can be said for Avon. Similar to BA, none of it has to *mean* anything, but nothing they're doing feels particularly innovative or progressive. It's terrific music and marching, but I guess I don't see the shadows of something more at the moment. Who knows.
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Post by marchingmaniac on Oct 16, 2022 22:58:57 GMT -6
I’ve watched the performances of Carmel and Avon this past weekend and I have to concur that Carmel looks to be in better shape at the moment. While Avon is tackling a harder music book and drill, it’s a little sloppier than I would have hoped from them at this stage of the season. I like the show as it is but it’s not totally grabbing my attention like some of their past ones. Carmel on the other hand looks very clean and sounds quite good, though not unbeatably good. I wouldn’t be surprised if Blue Springs took a caption off one of the two.
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Post by 70sguardchick on Oct 17, 2022 13:41:49 GMT -6
We've just learned that Brownsburg will be performing at 7:30pm on Friday, instead of the 5:15 slot. I'm not sure what other changes there are to the schedule, if any.
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Post by das88 on Oct 17, 2022 18:26:48 GMT -6
Personally, I don’t think anyone is going to be real close to Carmel this weekend. Unlike BA, Carmel is clean what they have added since Louisville is solid. Like others, mixed on Avon. But to be fair, the video on them is poor quality and not high enough to judge formations, etc. Blue Springs will sweep AAA but I don’t see them taking any captions at finals.
I am mostly interested in how Fishers, Brownsburg, Castle, Homestead fair. I know generally how they did at ISSMA regional, but that often doesn’t mean much. Opps.
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Post by redpants on Oct 17, 2022 18:36:10 GMT -6
As last year’s champion did Carmel get to choose their prelims time slot or is that just for regular (non-super) regionals? Their slot at 9:30 on Friday night strikes me as sub-optimal vs., say, late afternoon Saturday. But perhaps I’m missing something? Maybe Friday performers get judges’ feedback before Saturday morning rehearsal?
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Post by hewhowaits on Oct 17, 2022 18:41:00 GMT -6
As last year’s champion did Carmel get to choose their prelims time slot or is that just for regular (non-super) regionals? Their slot at 9:30 on Friday night strikes me as sub-optimal vs., say, late afternoon Saturday. But perhaps I’m missing something? Maybe Friday performers get judges’ feedback before Saturday morning rehearsal? Yes, Carmel has the opportunity to choose their performance time. As for feedback, the modern system makes it available to directors very quickly. Sometimes the "tapes" are available before the next band leaves the field.
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Post by principalagent on Oct 17, 2022 18:59:10 GMT -6
As last year’s champion did Carmel get to choose their prelims time slot or is that just for regular (non-super) regionals? Their slot at 9:30 on Friday night strikes me as sub-optimal vs., say, late afternoon Saturday. But perhaps I’m missing something? Maybe Friday performers get judges’ feedback before Saturday morning rehearsal? Not suboptimal when you get a bunch of time to rehearse on Saturday.
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Post by paddy on Oct 17, 2022 19:13:47 GMT -6
As last year’s champion did Carmel get to choose their prelims time slot or is that just for regular (non-super) regionals? Their slot at 9:30 on Friday night strikes me as sub-optimal vs., say, late afternoon Saturday. But perhaps I’m missing something? Maybe Friday performers get judges’ feedback before Saturday morning rehearsal? Not suboptimal when you get a bunch of time to rehearse on Saturday. And are 30 minutes away. Traditionally the Friday night block is stacked and entertaining.
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Post by hewhowaits on Oct 17, 2022 20:26:29 GMT -6
Not suboptimal when you get a bunch of time to rehearse on Saturday. And are 30 minutes away. Traditionally the Friday night block is stacked and entertaining. Much like the Thursday night block at Grand Nationals.
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Post by anonymoose on Oct 18, 2022 12:46:01 GMT -6
Hey all! First post here. This Super Regional is looking INSANE with the amount of groups that are competing for just these 14 spots. I did my best trying to sort these by panel. i fully acknowledge that these may be completely wrong but that's the fun of it!
Top 14: 1-Avon (1:1) (GE, Music) 2-Blue Springs (1:2) (Visual) 3-Carmel (1:3) 4-Mason (2:1) 5-Lincoln-Way (2:2) 6-Fishers (1:4) 7-Brownsburg (2:3) 8-Castle (1:5) 9-Jenks (2:4) 10-Union (2:5) 11-Grain Valley (2: Next 4) 12-Center Grove (1: Next 4) 13-Kennesaw (2: Next 4) 14-Homestead (2: Next 4)
Finalist Bubble: 15-Centerville 16-Franklin 17-Goshen 18-Penn
The biggest toss up with definitely who places where in spots 9-5, because that spread may honestly be 3 points or less. The other note is that Panel 1 is top heavy for finalists, but I think panel 2 puts more groups in finals. Can't wait to see what happens this weekend!
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Post by marchingmaniac on Oct 18, 2022 16:19:30 GMT -6
Final predictions:
1. Carmel (M/GE) 2. Avon 3. Blue Springs (V) 4. William Mason 5. Lincoln-Way 6. Castle 7. Jenks 8. Fishers 9. Brownsburg 10. Grain Valley 11. Centerville 12. Lafayette 13. Franklin 14. Union
Admittedly I'm not super informed on Midwestern bands so a few of these are just my predictions based off past results and what I know about these programs.
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Post by dbalash on Oct 18, 2022 17:24:10 GMT -6
OFFICIAL PRELIM SCHEDULE AS OF 09/29/2022FRIDAYPanel 25:00 - Galesburg H.S., IL 5:15 - Terre Haute South Vigo H.S., IN 5:30 - NorthWood H.S., IN 5:45 - Orleans Jr./Sr. H.S., IN 6:00 - Northview H.S., IN 6:15 - Terre Haute North Vigo H.S., IN 6:30 - Union City H.S., TN 6:45 - Monrovia H.S., IN 7:00 - Franklin Central H.S., IN 7:15 - Jenks H.S., OK 7:30 - Brownsburg H.S., IN One change to the schedule. Terre Haute South Vigo and Brownsburg have switched times.
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Post by Marching Observer on Oct 18, 2022 19:00:58 GMT -6
OFFICIAL PRELIM SCHEDULE AS OF 09/29/2022FRIDAYPanel 25:00 - Galesburg H.S., IL 5:15 - Terre Haute South Vigo H.S., IN 5:30 - NorthWood H.S., IN 5:45 - Orleans Jr./Sr. H.S., IN 6:00 - Northview H.S., IN 6:15 - Terre Haute North Vigo H.S., IN 6:30 - Union City H.S., TN 6:45 - Monrovia H.S., IN 7:00 - Franklin Central H.S., IN 7:15 - Jenks H.S., OK 7:30 - Brownsburg H.S., IN One change to the schedule. Terre Haute South Vigo and Brownsburg have switched times. Time to don your tinfoil hats!
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Post by Allohak on Oct 18, 2022 19:14:31 GMT -6
One change to the schedule. Terre Haute South Vigo and Brownsburg have switched times. Time to don your tinfoil hats! This was due to a bussing issue that a resolution for was still being worked on as of yesterday afternoon
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Post by Marching Observer on Oct 18, 2022 20:53:10 GMT -6
Time to don your tinfoil hats! This was due to a bussing issue that a resolution for was still being worked on as of yesterday afternoon *Keeps tinfoil hat firmly in place* Kidding naturally. I figured it had to deal with some kind of conflict in that regard or pep session. Good to have that confirmation.
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Post by marchingbandkidinsprit on Oct 19, 2022 11:50:51 GMT -6
Wait, is blue springs 3a or 4a??
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Post by doublegeez on Oct 19, 2022 11:57:11 GMT -6
Wait, is blue springs 3a or 4a?? They were 3A at St. Louis so assuming 3A here?
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