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Post by marimba11 on Aug 29, 2022 16:22:22 GMT -6
Did they ever win a prelims? Yep, that's probably what you're thinking about. They won prelims one year and dropped a bit in finals. Yep that sounds right!! Thanks!
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Post by statechamp1239 on Aug 29, 2022 17:02:27 GMT -6
Didn’t Bridgewater Raritan win a regional once? Bridgewater-Raritan HS won 2010 Prelims which is the first for NJ but got 3rd in Finals, 1 time and highest GN semifinalist finish for NJ ( 18th place), 5 times BOA Regional Class Champions in Class 3A and 4A, 3 times 2nd place Champions in Finals ( 2013, 2011, 2009) which is the most out of any NJ band beating Piscataway HS record (1996 and 2002), 13 time Regional Finalist the highest out of any NJ band. They are the only NJ to travel really far for a BOA Regional which was the St. Petersburg Regional in Florida in 2004 (13th place). Sorry you mention NJ band and you unleashed paradox box.
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Post by ilikeguard on Aug 29, 2022 17:31:14 GMT -6
110 is a gorgeous number. I’m fairly sure that’s larger than a good chunk of AA groups. Murray sounds like (and looks like) a phenomenal program. I wish them luck again this year! 110 would be a small Class B band in Indiana and most of those schools are AA. I think the smallest state qualifier in Class B was around 100 but the rest were 135 plus. Concord was close to 200 last year. Thanks for putting that in context! I’ve heard (and sometimes seen) that there are lots of programs that are still rebuilding their membership after the off season. I’d imagine most AA groups pre-2020 were a bit bigger, but we’re still in that recovery phase.
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Post by paddy on Aug 29, 2022 18:56:39 GMT -6
110 would be a small Class B band in Indiana and most of those schools are AA. I think the smallest state qualifier in Class B was around 100 but the rest were 135 plus. Concord was close to 200 last year. Thanks for putting that in context! I’ve heard (and sometimes seen) that there are lots of programs that are still rebuilding their membership after the off season. I’d imagine most AA groups pre-2020 were a bit bigger, but we’re still in that recovery phase. I totally get it and after rereading what I wrote, sorry if I came off like a jerk.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2022 19:36:29 GMT -6
ah... that explains a whole lot.. sarcasm is often followed by a defense for or a explanation of its use.. I do not immediately assume sarcasm within a forum about HS Bands.. but, there you go. Also, due to my very old age of nearing the 60 mark... emojis are very frequently overlooked by me. Aside from that... i don't mind reflecting on my days in TX or attending the shows... Nearing 60 isn't an excuse! I'm almost there and we know there are regulars on here that are older than me. yeah... it's my excuse and I am sticking to it. I'm too old to get interested in or figuring out communicating via emojis...
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Post by boahistorybuff on Aug 29, 2022 19:57:59 GMT -6
Didn’t Bridgewater Raritan win a regional once? Bridgewater-Raritan HS won 2010 Prelims which is the first for NJ but got 3rd in Finals, 1 time and highest GN semifinalist finish for NJ ( 18th place), 5 times BOA Regional Class Champions in Class 3A and 4A, 3 times 2nd place Champions in Finals ( 2013, 2011, 2009) which is the most out of any NJ band beating Piscataway HS record (1996 and 2002), 13 time Regional Finalist the highest out of any NJ band. They are the only NJ to travel really far for a BOA Regional which was the St. Petersburg Regional in Florida in 2004 (13th place). Sorry you mention NJ band and you unleashed paradox box. I love the history knowledge. I now know who to turn for New Jersey band questions. Back in the day I was expecting Bridgewater-Raritan to pull off a BOA regional, but they did not quite get there. For those new to BOA, the regional class champions are based on prelims. The regional champion is determined based on finals results. If for some reason, like bad weather, finals is cancelled, then the regional champion defaults to the band that won prelims.
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Post by marimba11 on Aug 30, 2022 0:05:19 GMT -6
Didn’t Bridgewater Raritan win a regional once? Bridgewater-Raritan HS won 2010 Prelims which is the first for NJ but got 3rd in Finals, 1 time and highest GN semifinalist finish for NJ ( 18th place), 5 times BOA Regional Class Champions in Class 3A and 4A, 3 times 2nd place Champions in Finals ( 2013, 2011, 2009) which is the most out of any NJ band beating Piscataway HS record (1996 and 2002), 13 time Regional Finalist the highest out of any NJ band. They are the only NJ to travel really far for a BOA Regional which was the St. Petersburg Regional in Florida in 2004 (13th place). Sorry you mention NJ band and you unleashed paradox box. Haha, my life is a New Jersey paradox. Thanks for the great info
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Post by hewhowaits on Aug 30, 2022 5:49:03 GMT -6
Thanks for putting that in context! I’ve heard (and sometimes seen) that there are lots of programs that are still rebuilding their membership after the off season. I’d imagine most AA groups pre-2020 were a bit bigger, but we’re still in that recovery phase. I totally get it and after rereading what I wrote, sorry if I came off like a jerk. Didn't sound like a jerk to me when I was reading it. Stating facts. And you eschewed sarcasm - maybe that's why it seemed a little off.
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Post by ilikeguard on Aug 30, 2022 6:04:06 GMT -6
Thanks for putting that in context! I’ve heard (and sometimes seen) that there are lots of programs that are still rebuilding their membership after the off season. I’d imagine most AA groups pre-2020 were a bit bigger, but we’re still in that recovery phase. I totally get it and after rereading what I wrote, sorry if I came off like a jerk. Oh no apology needed! I think it’s all really interesting to discuss and the context/different angle was helpful. No sarcasm here. I apologize for making you feel like you needed to apologize 😌
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Post by yayband914 on Aug 30, 2022 6:56:20 GMT -6
I totally get it and after rereading what I wrote, sorry if I came off like a jerk. Oh no apology needed! I think it’s all really interesting to discuss and the context/different angle was helpful. No sarcasm here. I apologize for making you feel like you needed to apologize 😌 ”Alexa, play Kumbaya.”
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Post by Marching Observer on Aug 30, 2022 8:00:26 GMT -6
Since other things to look out for this season:
*Some staff changes at Franklin. How will this affect them? Will they continue with fun there like last year's (one of my top 5 entertaining shows last year imo)? *Does Homestead make a bounce back? From what I've seen this do far this year, they are smaller, but feel much improved from this point last year. Could be leaner, but "meaner". *Castle no longer has Dean as director, how will that affect them? I don't see a step bank because they have a really good foundation beneath them now. *The continual rise of Fishers and Brownsburg. Does it continue? This was brought up earlier but this one is a big thing this year imo since now is a great time to push towards finals. I think they continue to get better. Possibly Brownsburg more. *How does Broken Arrow follow up last year? They'll be defending the Eagle so what will they bring this year? *Speaking of Oklahoma bands, Mustang returns! Do they have bus issues again this year? Hopefully not. This band has built a brand of FUN the past few shows. Dinosaurs! Sharks! What's next? I'm hoping for Foxes because... What does the fox say? Hahaha. I'm sure the show has been announced by now, I haven't looked, but I'd love something like that haha. They had a great showing last year and setup nicely for a GN push to join the ranks of BA, Jenks, Union, and Owasso as OK bands making Finals. *How many TX bands can make finals? These aren't your typical bands to come. Love the new groups to join us. New faces are always great and think several stand a good chance at finals too. *Rockford (MI) could really land anyway this year. They've really come onto the scene strong the last few years. *Marian Catholic. Where does this group go? Bimm is still in charge and despite everything, he continues to push the kids hard and the designs are still finalist worthy imo.
Every year brings something new and we are nearly there!
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Post by ilikeguard on Aug 30, 2022 8:40:39 GMT -6
Since other things to look out for this season: *How does Broken Arrow follow up last year? They'll be defending the Eagle so what will they bring this year? *Speaking of Oklahoma bands, Mustang returns! Do they have bus issues again this year? Hopefully not. This band has built a brand of FUN the past few shows. Dinosaurs! Sharks! What's next? I'm hoping for Foxes because... What does the fox say? Hahaha. I'm sure the show has been announced by now, I haven't looked, but I'd love something like that haha. They had a great showing last year and setup nicely for a GN push to join the ranks of BA, Jenks, Union, and Owasso as OK bands making Finals. Just a note that Wes bands are usually very secretive about their show themes before competition, barring sneaky leakers. I think we still have a little bit before we hear about BA and Mustang's shows. Nothing's out there yet! I'm just as excited No doubt they'll be amazing!
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Post by Marching Observer on Aug 30, 2022 8:57:24 GMT -6
Since other things to look out for this season: *How does Broken Arrow follow up last year? They'll be defending the Eagle so what will they bring this year? *Speaking of Oklahoma bands, Mustang returns! Do they have bus issues again this year? Hopefully not. This band has built a brand of FUN the past few shows. Dinosaurs! Sharks! What's next? I'm hoping for Foxes because... What does the fox say? Hahaha. I'm sure the show has been announced by now, I haven't looked, but I'd love something like that haha. They had a great showing last year and setup nicely for a GN push to join the ranks of BA, Jenks, Union, and Owasso as OK bands making Finals. Just a note that Wes bands are usually very secretive about their show themes before competition, barring sneaky leakers. I think we still have a little bit before we hear about BA and Mustang's shows. Nothing's out there yet! I'm just as excited No doubt they'll be amazing! I have heard the first min or so of BA's show and I'm definitely digging it so far. It's a different vibe and energy than last year but still in a good way. They'll be bringing it once again! But good to know I didn't miss any announcement either lol
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Post by srv1084 on Aug 30, 2022 16:52:22 GMT -6
Lincoln-Way - Can they finally break into finals after being close as both the old Lincoln Way and Lincoln Way East? Based on 2018-2019 it would be an easy yes for me, but based on last year it will depend on how much they've been able to rebuild. I'm hoping things work out in their favor as they've been close in multiple decades now.
North Hardin - Will they come back strong and with more numbers, challenging yet again for an AA medal?
Mustang - We've come to expect them to bring the antics, but do they field a more serious show this year in their quest to making finals? I personally love their approach and would love to see them continue on that path (whether it's the same formula or something adjacent), but I'm curious what they're thinking after getting close last year.
Rouse - They finally broke through last year, even with a smaller band than usual (which is already relatively small compared to others in their district). Hoping to see them stick around in the finals conversation and eventually make their way to Nats.
Mason - Now that the movie has been a success at the box office, are we in for Top Gun 2?
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Post by ilikeguard on Aug 30, 2022 17:33:00 GMT -6
I’ve heard really great things about LW this year, but I haven’t actually seen them in any capacity yet. I’m expecting some really sound choreography though.
In my perfect universe we see both LW and Mustang in finals. I’m a huge fan of both of these bands! The field is just so darn competitive that we’ll unfortunately have to see a lot of worthy groups miss out. That perfect universe includes M.G. Johnson, Castle, and Brownsburg, too. I’m really looking forward to seeing some actual data so we can start to see how things might line up by November.
I’d love to see a comeback from North Hardin. I think the last time I saw them live was at Clarksville in 2018 and they were fantastic.
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Post by yayband914 on Aug 30, 2022 18:32:22 GMT -6
So many bands that aren’t the “cliche” ones listed here to watch out for!!!
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Post by supersound on Aug 30, 2022 18:44:04 GMT -6
So many bands that aren’t the “cliche” ones listed here to watch out for!!! I have •John Paul Stevens (Texas) •Anderson •Forrest Hills •McNeil •Normal •Fayeteville •University (Florida) •Choctaw as “non-traditional bands” to look out for, I called Brandeis improvement before anyone so I think it’s fair to be confident in these specific groups. They’re not all super successful right now, but I think their days are coming.
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Post by das88 on Aug 30, 2022 19:16:05 GMT -6
Not much for me to add to that hasn’t already been mentioned. Being from Indy I mostly focus on Indiana bands. I don’t expect anything surprising. Castle- I was initially concerned about with a big director change. But the assistant moved up and they hired another good director. Fishers, Brownsburg, pretty close last year. Probably the same this year I am guessing. I know more about Brownsburg’s program than Fishers. Brownsburg is really building their music program. Homestead. I am expecting them to bounce back. Avon\Carmel. I look for much of the same.
I expect Broken Arrow to be fully prepared to defend their title. Excited Tarpon Springs is back at Grand Nationals.
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Post by yayband914 on Aug 30, 2022 19:42:16 GMT -6
So many bands that aren’t the “cliche” ones listed here to watch out for!!! I have •John Paul Stevens (Texas) •Anderson •Forrest Hills •McNeil •Normal •Fayeteville •University (Florida) •Choctaw as “non-traditional bands” to look out for, I called Brandeis improvement before anyone so I think it’s fair to be confident in these specific groups. They’re not all super successful right now, but I think their days are coming. Can confirm McNeil is going to be really good this year. I haven’t seen any of those others yet.
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Post by ilikeguard on Aug 30, 2022 19:48:47 GMT -6
Fayetteville AR wasn’t too shabby at St. Louis last season. I’ll also second Choctaw and McNeil.
Is Kickapoo still in attendance for Indianapolis? I know they’ve dropped Iowa. If they’re still going, I’m looking forward to the product they put forward. They were a St. Louis finalist at one point and have an Open Class Winter Guard, though they were surprisingly missing from competition this season.
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Post by yayband914 on Aug 30, 2022 20:11:41 GMT -6
Some additional typically underrepresented ones that I don’t think have been said and have either seen or know are very much on the up and up.
- Bellevue East H.S., NE (Iowa) - Bellevue West H.S., NE (Iowa) - Blue Valley Southwest H.S., KS (Iowa) - Campbell County H.S., KY (Obetz, Louisville, Grand Nats) - Corinth-Holders H.S., NC (Winston-Salem) - Jack C. Hays H.S., TX (Waco, San Antonio) - Kettering Fairmont H.S., OH (Louisville, Indianapolis) - MOC-Floyd Valley H.S., IA (Iowa) - New Braunfels H.S., TX (Austin, San Antonio) [They will be one to watch at Austin, let me put it that way.] - Noblesville H.S., IN (Toledo [my pick to win], Indianapolis) - Paragould H.S., AR (Clarksville, Jacksonville) - Sebastian River H.S., FL (Orlando) - West Harrison H.S., MS (Orlando) - Worthington Kilbourne H.S., OH (Obetz, Grand Nationals) - Wylie East H.S., TX (Conroe, Prosper, San Antonio)
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Post by supersound on Aug 30, 2022 20:12:53 GMT -6
I’ll second whoever said that about New Braunfels. They need a clean run to sneak in, but it’s not out of the realm of possibility.
They’d have to fight off Hendrickson on a nats year and Lake Travis. I think realistically they can take on Weiss very capably.
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Post by supersound on Aug 30, 2022 20:14:00 GMT -6
I have •John Paul Stevens (Texas) •Anderson •Forrest Hills •McNeil •Normal •Fayeteville •University (Florida) •Choctaw as “non-traditional bands” to look out for, I called Brandeis improvement before anyone so I think it’s fair to be confident in these specific groups. They’re not all super successful right now, but I think their days are coming. Can confirm McNeil is going to be really good this year. I haven’t seen any of those others yet. They have one of Round Rocks old directors if I’m not mistaken? Also almost snuck into TMC finals last year.
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Post by yayband914 on Aug 30, 2022 20:16:04 GMT -6
Can confirm McNeil is going to be really good this year. I haven’t seen any of those others yet. They have one of Round Rocks old directors if I’m not mistaken? Also almost snuck into TMC finals last year. Yes, Brittany Graham is there now. Also, they have a new visual designer, whom I can’t reveal, but they are in very good hands.
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Post by vidal28rdg on Aug 30, 2022 20:17:55 GMT -6
My take from all that is that Broken Arrow, Carmel and Avon need to make regular trips to San Antonio, DFW, Houston and Austin so they can flex their muscles a bit and go head to head with some bands that can challenge them. No need to do that when thy typically beat them at Nats.... They can flex. Carmel has never beaten some Texas schools that have attended grand Nats, they still need to look out👀especially if they did venture into Texas to the San Antonio regional once again, any out-of-state powerhouses are always welcome to show!!
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Post by Momof20613 on Aug 30, 2022 21:23:44 GMT -6
Since other things to look out for this season: *How does Broken Arrow follow up last year? They'll be defending the Eagle so what will they bring this year? *Speaking of Oklahoma bands, Mustang returns! Do they have bus issues again this year? Hopefully not. This band has built a brand of FUN the past few shows. Dinosaurs! Sharks! What's next? I'm hoping for Foxes because... What does the fox say? Hahaha. I'm sure the show has been announced by now, I haven't looked, but I'd love something like that haha. They had a great showing last year and setup nicely for a GN push to join the ranks of BA, Jenks, Union, and Owasso as OK bands making Finals. Just a note that Wes bands are usually very secretive about their show themes before competition, barring sneaky leakers. I think we still have a little bit before we hear about BA and Mustang's shows. Nothing's out there yet! I'm just as excited No doubt they'll be amazing! The rumor, on decent authority, floating around OKC bands is that Mustang’s theme is Prom. It’s call “At the Party” or something like that.
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Post by Marching Observer on Aug 30, 2022 21:51:34 GMT -6
Just a note that Wes bands are usually very secretive about their show themes before competition, barring sneaky leakers. I think we still have a little bit before we hear about BA and Mustang's shows. Nothing's out there yet! I'm just as excited No doubt they'll be amazing! The rumor, on decent authority, floating around OKC bands is that Mustang’s theme is Prom. It’s call “At the Party” or something like that. Ohh they could have a really fun time with musical selections for that. Mustang is one of my top 5 most anticipated groups to see this year for sure!
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Post by hewhowaits on Aug 31, 2022 6:12:38 GMT -6
Mason - Now that the movie has been a success at the box office, are we in for Top Gun 2? No inside knowledge, but I'm still confident that will be a hard "NO" on another Top Gun show.
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Post by paddy on Aug 31, 2022 8:25:46 GMT -6
Mason - Now that the movie has been a success at the box office, are we in for Top Gun 2? No inside knowledge, but I'm still confident that will be a hard "NO" on another Top Gun show. If they were to do Top Gun 2. it would just be the same show with a few new characters. (And I say this as someone who enjoyed the movie Top Gun 2)
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Post by thewho on Aug 31, 2022 11:20:35 GMT -6
Is Marcus going to be our favorite show of the year again?
One man talking- probably.
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